Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TrustInMusic » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:08 pm

WalkingPlato wrote:Why are you guys speculating how things will turn out? It's practically inevitable now. You submitted your app, and so did (and will) all others that have planned to apply. Whatever the decision making process is at HLS, that's what it is, and based on that process, you're going to be accepted or rejected. You don't want to spend days and weeks pulling your hair out thinking about what's going on in the HLS admission office when it won't affect your decision in any way possible.


This is TLS...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WalkingPlato » Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:17 pm

wert3813 wrote:
WalkingPlato wrote:Why are you guys speculating how things will turn out? It's practically inevitable now. You submitted your app, and so did (and will) all others that have planned to apply. Whatever the decision making process is at HLS, that's what it is, and based on that process, you're going to be accepted or rejected. You don't want to spend days and weeks pulling your hair out thinking about what's going on in the HLS admission office when it won't affect your decision in any way possible.


Okay, but this is true for a huge amount of all human thought and speech.


lol true. Sorry

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:24 pm

Put me strongly in the Harvard will not drop class sizes unless it takes a bunch of transfer students camp. Strongly.

+1. Fixed costs make this very difficult to do.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:26 pm

kingsfield69 wrote:
Ling520 wrote:
Put me strongly in the Harvard will not drop class sizes unless it takes a bunch of transfer students camp. Strongly.


+1. Fixed costs make this very difficult to do.


not when you can hike your variable costs up as much as you want and people still come to study at your institution

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:36 pm

az21833 wrote:
kingsfield69 wrote:
Ling520 wrote:
Put me strongly in the Harvard will not drop class sizes unless it takes a bunch of transfer students camp. Strongly.


+1. Fixed costs make this very difficult to do.


not when you can hike your variable costs up as much as you want and people still come to study at your institution


With the facility improvements they've just made, I don't foresee a substantive reduction in class size. I could be wrong.

I think the argument is excessively focused on numbers (go figure). HLS will have no trouble seating enough students with galactic numbers to hold close to previous medians, even at the same class size. Maybe what we're seeing is an attempt to shore up the other components of the rankings equation. SLS didn't surpass HLS with numbers ... so if it wants the #2 spot back, it'll have to change its process and/or product in other ways.

I don't think HLS is reacting to reduced applicant numbers. I don't think the T3 need to do much of that. The impact will be felt further down the scale.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby grapefruits » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:31 pm

I can't tell if people thinking that Harvard cares in even the slightest that its "rank" dropped by one position in usnwr is one giant inside joke that I'm not a part of (I guess I never checked into the "IN" thread). Harvard has so much lay prestige that it is occasionally given a top ranking in programs of study that it doesn't even offer. I would assume that Harvard is unconcerned about usnwr rankings. Harvard would have no trouble filling its classes with the most qualified students even if it were to swap places with NYU, in my opinion.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sinfiery » Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:34 pm

I don't think HLS is going to change anything dramatically just because they are now #3. I mean, historically, it seems like they've been #3 more often than not. There is no shock here.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=213

http://www.prelawhandbook.com/law_schoo ... 00_present

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:19 pm

sinfiery wrote:I don't think HLS is going to change anything dramatically just because they are now #3. I mean, historically, it seems like they've been #3 more often than not. There is no shock here.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=213

http://www.prelawhandbook.com/law_schoo ... 00_present


Agree. Though I think HLS is also wise enough to understand that no school can remain in the T3 by crossing its arms. No amount of prestige will cause competitors to give up, so the school must continue to improve and innovate in order to stay ahead. I see evidence of that impulse in the admissions process. To the extent there are changes this year, I attribute them to HLS not laying back on its laurels, but working hard to field the best possible class.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Yukos » Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:42 pm

kingsfield69 wrote:
sinfiery wrote:I don't think HLS is going to change anything dramatically just because they are now #3. I mean, historically, it seems like they've been #3 more often than not. There is no shock here.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... ?f=1&t=213

http://www.prelawhandbook.com/law_schoo ... 00_present


Agree. Though I think HLS is also wise enough to understand that no school can remain in the T3 by crossing its arms. No amount of prestige will cause competitors to give up, so the school must continue to improve and innovate in order to stay ahead. I see evidence of that impulse in the admissions process. To the extent there are changes this year, I attribute them to HLS not laying back on its laurels, but working hard to field the best possible class.


Chicago can attest to that, since historically they were often ahead of Stanford and in the T3. I'm actually surprised UChi Law doesn't have more lay prestige because of this.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby harvardboy24 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:14 am

Should there be an update on Status Checker after JS1?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 am

harvardboy24 wrote:Should there be an update on Status Checker after JS1?


You will see an "interview scheduled" update sometime after you've been invited for a JS1, but there's no additional status update post-JS1. Next time you see movement will be when you get a decision.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lsat_180 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 am

How long does it typically take after going complete to get a JS1? What is the earliest turnaround (and is an early interview invitation turnaround mainly based on high numbers?)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wert3813 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 am

lsat_180 wrote:How long does it typically take after going complete to get a JS1? What is the earliest turnaround (and is an early interview invitation turnaround mainly based on high numbers?)


Varies widely. A week-ish? Maybe a slight correlation but plenty of people with high stats wait a month or more for a JS1.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby housebro13 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:46 am

wert3813 wrote:
lsat_180 wrote:How long does it typically take after going complete to get a JS1? What is the earliest turnaround (and is an early interview invitation turnaround mainly based on high numbers?)


Varies widely. A week-ish? Maybe a slight correlation but plenty of people with high stats wait a month or more for a JS1.


The wait for the JS1 was tough but it's the wait for JS2 that drives you nearly insane. I've been JS1 for almost a month now.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby aredhello » Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:54 am

kingsfield69 wrote:
harvardboy24 wrote:Should there be an update on Status Checker after JS1?


You will see an "interview scheduled" update sometime after you've been invited for a JS1, but there's no additional status update post-JS1. Next time you see movement will be when you get a decision.


FWIW, my status never updated to reflect my interview being scheduled, pre or post interview.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby clouded.memory » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:01 pm

Wormfather wrote:
aredhello wrote:
kingsfield69 wrote:
harvardboy24 wrote:Should there be an update on Status Checker after JS1?


You will see an "interview scheduled" update sometime after you've been invited for a JS1, but there's no additional status update post-JS1. Next time you see movement will be when you get a decision.


FWIW, my status never updated to reflect my interview being scheduled, pre or post interview.


Mine just updated for an interview that took place a week ago.

Same here.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby housebro13 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:05 pm

clouded.memory wrote:
Wormfather wrote:
aredhello wrote:
kingsfield69 wrote:
You will see an "interview scheduled" update sometime after you've been invited for a JS1, but there's no additional status update post-JS1. Next time you see movement will be when you get a decision.


FWIW, my status never updated to reflect my interview being scheduled, pre or post interview.


Mine just updated for an interview that took place a week ago.

Same here.


+1

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby andreskicdo » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:06 pm

Just as a check: for the people that are getting JS1s scheduled right now, when did you guys go complete?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby housebro13 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:08 pm

andreskicdo wrote:Just as a check: for the people that are getting JS1s scheduled right now, when did you guys go complete?


wait, I don't think JS1s are going out now. We're talking about earlier this month. But I went complete 11/13

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:31 pm

Application complete today, finallyyyyyy. I was starting to get worried that they'd lost me in the shuffle!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby blackomega » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:36 pm

After Friday's bloodbath is there any hope for good news today?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Yukos » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:39 pm

I thought we'd get some JS2s today since it's been over a week since the last ones, but no dice so far. I'm guessing we get a small trickle of dings/holds on Friday with a big batch of JS2s.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby andreskicdo » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:41 pm

I meant interviews being scheduled in the last week or so. when did you guys go complete?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby mommalee » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:46 pm

Yukos wrote:I thought we'd get some JS2s today since it's been over a week since the last ones, but no dice so far. I'm guessing we get a small trickle of dings/holds on Friday with a big batch of JS2s.


JS2s gave previously started to go out after noon EST.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby zidane13 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:49 pm

andreskicdo wrote:I meant interviews being scheduled in the last week or so. when did you guys go complete?


Early October.




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