Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WalkingPlato » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:35 pm

Held. No JS1 (Interview). I'm a reverse splitter. I really hope that the "once we see more of the applicant pool" thing will have them think they need someone with a really high GPA but not necessarily the best LSAT, and that they spot my file! Could happen, you never know!
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:36 pm

assuming these are all nov or prior completes?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jcan91 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:37 pm

Wow...this place makes me feel like I'm walking in a minefield. The worst part is, idk whether to be grateful I'm still alive or whether to hope for swift release from this madness.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby housebro13 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:38 pm

az21833 wrote:assuming these are all nov or prior completes?


I think the holds today were JS1s and non-JS1s who submitted Sept.-Nov.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby masked kavana » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:38 pm

Any URMs held?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Eichörnchen » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:40 pm

elterrible78 wrote:
wert3813 wrote:Best as I can tell LSATPrepGuy is the person with the best numbers (3.99; 172) to get a hold pre JS1. Anyone have better or see someone with better?


Wow....and held without a JS1? What???

I guess I'll add more info so that I can facilitate a better informed freak out ITT. :lol: I was a mid-Oct applicant ~4.0, 171, no JS1 hold. Ah well.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:42 pm

housebro13 wrote:
az21833 wrote:assuming these are all nov or prior completes?


I think the holds today were JS1s and non-JS1s who submitted Sept.-Nov.


Ah, well I guess I can wait my turn. I was getting jealous!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:42 pm

pedestrian wrote:
housebro13 wrote:
az21833 wrote:assuming these are all nov or prior completes?


I think the holds today were JS1s and non-JS1s who submitted Sept.-Nov.


Ah, well I guess I can wait my turn. I was getting jealous!



+1 I'm guessing I have another week or two til they get to the December hold/dings

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby NoodleyOne » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:43 pm

I feel like shit.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:45 pm

NoodleyOne wrote:I feel like shit.



sorry dude. but you do have a whole lot of scholly $$$$ to soften the hold?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby facile princeps » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:46 pm

So sorry to see you guys get held. Also, with all the solid #s being held, I'm scared to check my email. Saddest, most nerve racking day of my cycle for sure :cry:.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby SmokiestFawn7 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:46 pm

twinkletoes16 wrote:
pedestrian wrote:
housebro13 wrote:
az21833 wrote:assuming these are all nov or prior completes?


I think the holds today were JS1s and non-JS1s who submitted Sept.-Nov.


Ah, well I guess I can wait my turn. I was getting jealous!



+1 I'm guessing I have another week or two til they get to the December hold/dings



Makes sense, given that we've only seen a few December JS1s. I was also complete around 12/20 (below median numbers) and have heard nothing.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wert3813 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:52 pm

az21833 wrote:
wert3813 wrote:Best as I can tell LSATPrepGuy is the person with the best numbers (3.99; 172) to get a hold pre JS1. Anyone have better or see someone with better?


this also is a travesty. H is being way more picky this cycle than expected. its clear they are not going to let those medians slip further and will take the hit in enrollment if necessary. i bet they want that 2 spot from stanford hard. definately staying at 173, minimum. have enough $ in enrollment.


Edit sorry for grammar on my phone

First, I think worm is right today may get worse.

Second, calm down. It is not clear at all that they are doing this. Every year a few people with high numbers don't get in for whatever reason. That hasn't even happened today. Just some holds.

Holding a few 4.0 172 also isn't grounds for mass freak out.

Finally, I can't imagine harvard possible cares about two v. Three. Maybe if they could be number one that might change things but I just see no material difference between 2 versus. Also doubt harvard cuts class size.
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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:52 pm

what % of hold get in without WL? and what % inclusive of waitlist admits? its like the walking dead here but all hope isnt lost right?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Spritzpiggy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:06 pm

There are 1871 people applying this cycle with LSATs between 170-180 (all GPalAs) Harvard accepts a little more than 800/year so they definitely should be able to maintain their class sizes without sacrificing medians. Plus some of their admits are from outside the 170-180 pool.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:11 pm

Spritzpiggy wrote:There are 1871 people applying this cycle with LSATs between 170-180 (all GPalAs) Harvard accepts a little more than 800/year so they definitely should be able to maintain their class sizes without sacrificing medians. Plus some of their admits are from outside the 170-180 pool.



is this from LSN? Where are you getting this? Not accusatory, just genuinely curious.


Like others have said, they won't have problems keeping their medians. However, it may be slightly easier to get in based on the following:

1. people going to YS instead (300? people, figure 250 with 170-180 LSATs)
2. people going to lower T-14 with $/geographic preference/who knows (who knows how many)
3. some people with 170-180 don't apply to H. I saw a few people on LSN who have not. A very small percentage, but still there. (5-10 people? hah)
4. People accepting H and deferring (2-5 people at most, I would assume)
5. People with low GPAs/splitters who won't be accepted in the first place (who knows how many)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lavitz » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:13 pm

Held.

Not surprised.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby facile princeps » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:16 pm

Lavitz, I'm beginning to subscribe to the YP in anticipation of getting into Yale theory. Otherwise, one word: travesty.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby anela00 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:17 pm

Lavitz wrote:Held.

Not surprised.


I'm so sorry :(

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:18 pm

Lavitz wrote:Held.

Not surprised.


what a joke

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby risa » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:20 pm

jcan91 wrote:Wow...this place makes me feel like I'm walking in a minefield. The worst part is, idk whether to be grateful I'm still alive or whether to hope for swift release from this madness.

+1

No JS1, no hold here. Complete mid-November.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Micdiddy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:20 pm

facile princeps wrote:Lavitz, I'm beginning to subscribe to the YP in anticipation of getting into Yale theory. Otherwise, one word: travesty.


My god. Harvard YP? What has this world come to?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby trojandave » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:22 pm

Jesus, I sign in and see that today was the freakin' Boston Massacre.... what a depressing way to end the week. I'm really sorry for Lav, Terrible, and everyone else. It doesn't make any sense to anyone here. But still, I think things will turn around as we get into late Feb and March. It's still very early and this cycle is going to be wildly unpredictable. All we can go on is what they've told us: Held just means "we haven't forgotten about you." And that's not so scary

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lavitz » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:23 pm

The funny thing is that I predicted this would happen to me way back on page 1.
Lavitz wrote:I predict many of us with above-median LSAT and below-median GPA will get held until after the February deadline when they can evaluate the entire applicant pool.

Better than a rejection imo.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Spritzpiggy » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:24 pm

I found it a few days ago and scribbled it on a notepad to further torture myself by reality. Its ABA data but I can't pull it on my phone so try this post at the faculty lounge

http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/01 ... pdate.html

If there are 373 people with LSATs above 175 and Hs median is below that (173 I think) they still have wiggle room

Also Currently their 25th is at 170 which means there's 418 people at or above a 170 at Harvard out of a possible pool of around 2k (last year)

Sometime when I'm not on my phone I'll type this up in.more understandable detail




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