Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:40 pm

Nothing would prevent a school from reporting your final UGPA, even if you don't send the last transcript to LSAC. Schools report UGPA on an honor system. LSAC provides UGPA data to the schools as a service for the convenience of the schools, not to audit their numbers.

At no point does anyone compare the USDAS UGPA with the numbers reported by schools. Reformers have proposed using the USDAS numbers as a check, to keep the schools honest, but neither LSAC nor the ABA seem to be at all interested.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wert3813 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:01 pm

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby daisyrita » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:48 pm

(on an entirely unrelated note, your ampelmann avatar is awesome).

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby broadstreet11 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:54 pm

So is the consensus that the first round of dings will come before any more JS-1/2's? Maybe tomorrow?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:48 pm

My week was just ruined...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:50 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:My week was just ruined...


what happened

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shntn » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:52 pm

helix23 wrote:
Anonymous4444 wrote:My week was just ruined...


what happened

:?: :?: :?:

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:09 pm

daisyrita wrote:(on an entirely unrelated note, your ampelmann avatar is awesome).


Thanks! :)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:12 pm

Sorry guys should have quoted him he said rejections are coming out and that scares me...

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:17 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:Sorry guys should have quoted him he said rejections are coming out and that scares me...


I would be shocked if you were outright dinged with your numbers.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:40 pm

thanks helix :)

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby broadstreet11 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:42 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:Sorry guys should have quoted him he said rejections are coming out and that scares me...


Ha I have no clue. I'm guessing as much as anyone else. This all kinda makes me hate rolling admissions.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sinfiery » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:44 pm

Yeah, there is a bloodbath coming. Probably early next week.

Then probably a ton of holds going out later next week.


With JS1/2s being slowly rolled out all along this time frame.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wtrc » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:52 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:My week was just ruined...


Unless your LSN numbets are waaaay off for anonymity, or you have some ridiculous C+F issue, no way you get dinged. Especially in first round!

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby facile princeps » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:00 pm

Anonymous4444 wrote:Sorry guys should have quoted him he said rejections are coming out and that scares me...

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If they had rejected you i would give up all hopes.

On another note, do you guys think there's a chance that i've been snubbed so far because i applied with 2 semesters left in undergrad? Or am i just reaching for a reason to be hopeful? U Penn basically told me they wont look at my app again until i submit my fall grades, and i'm anticipating more of the same from others i haven't heard from yet.

I want to be loved by the top 5 so bad that i'm taking the February LSAT in anticipation of being WL. I hope i can get a 170+ so that H and co may consider loving me, too.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby edgeofthenight » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:09 pm

facile princeps wrote:I applied with 2 semesters left in undergrad?


As in, when you applied you had two semesters left or you currently have two semesters left? (I'm not sure how you would enter law school in Fall 2013 if it were the latter...?)

If it's the former - I had two semesters left when I applied (have since completed one) and I'm in. I had to explain in my JS1 why I'm not taking time off, but other than that... I think it's solidly common.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby facile princeps » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:45 pm

edgeofthenight wrote:
facile princeps wrote:I applied with 2 semesters left in undergrad?


As in, when you applied you had two semesters left or you currently have two semesters left? (I'm not sure how you would enter law school in Fall 2013 if it were the latter...?)

If it's the former - I had two semesters left when I applied (have since completed one) and I'm in. I had to explain in my JS1 why I'm not taking time off, but other than that... I think it's solidly common.

Sigh. The former. Thanks.

I was reaching for a reason to be hopeful even though i suspected it was quite common. Guess i'll be dinged in the coming weeks since i haven't seen any movement as of my first/last update in mid October. It was always unlikely anyway.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Ling520 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:15 am

pedestrian wrote:Nothing would prevent a school from reporting your final UGPA, even if you don't send the last transcript to LSAC. Schools report UGPA on an honor system. LSAC provides UGPA data to the schools as a service for the convenience of the schools, not to audit their numbers.

At no point does anyone compare the USDAS UGPA with the numbers reported by schools. Reformers have proposed using the USDAS numbers as a check, to keep the schools honest, but neither LSAC nor the ABA seem to be at all interested.


If this is the case, is there any evidence that schools accept people at higher rates when their school GPA is higher than their LSAC GPA (compared to students with the same LSAC GPA)?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:13 am

IM SO NERVOUS FOR TODAY


PROBABLY FOR NOTHING BUT WHATEVER ITS ALL CAPS WORTHY

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:21 am

Ling520 wrote:
pedestrian wrote:Nothing would prevent a school from reporting your final UGPA, even if you don't send the last transcript to LSAC. Schools report UGPA on an honor system. LSAC provides UGPA data to the schools as a service for the convenience of the schools, not to audit their numbers.

At no point does anyone compare the USDAS UGPA with the numbers reported by schools. Reformers have proposed using the USDAS numbers as a check, to keep the schools honest, but neither LSAC nor the ABA seem to be at all interested.


If this is the case, is there any evidence that schools accept people at higher rates when their school GPA is higher than their LSAC GPA (compared to students with the same LSAC GPA)?


I haven't seen any evidence, and even if there were a positive relationship it would be hard to disentangle it from factors that schools already say that they weigh, like upward trend in GPA.

FWIW I'm not saying that top schools are cherry picking the most favorable measure of GPA to boost their numbers. I believe them when they say that they generally follow the standardized LSAC method. My point was just that the process is in the hands of the schools, not LSAC. When Illinois and Villanova were caught cheating and people suggested having the numbers pulled directly from LSAC, some deans pointed out that there were legitimate reasons why the USDAS number and the reported number might not perfectly coincide.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby tirakon » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:34 am

So, are interviews schedule for all day every day this week? Are there interviews scheduled for day?

Any consensus on which day JS2's might go out?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shntn » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:36 am

tirakon wrote:So, are interviews schedule for all day every day this week? Are there interviews scheduled for day?

Any consensus on which day JS2's might go out?

If we're talking about my JS2, never. Dunno about the rest.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sinfiery » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:40 am

I don't think there are any more consensus days for when JS1/2s happen. It's just gonna kind of roll out at this point as far as JS1/2s are concerned.

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:18 pm

This is a dumb question--as far as I can tell, no one has said anything about what happens in a JS2, although there is extensive data on JS1 interviews. Is it another interview, or just when she congratulates you on admission?

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Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby permapress » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:04 pm

wait, so i just checked the JS1 time schedule, and they're scheduling based on PST timezones? aren't JS and KB on eastern time?




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