Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.
User avatar
sinfiery
Posts: 3308
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:55 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby sinfiery » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:23 pm

I was under the impression that a large part of admissions being so numbers driven came from the value employers/prospective students/the nation in general see within the USN rankings and USN rankings being most easily influenced by the numbers of your incoming class.

I read somewhere on this website that when UT cracked the T14, their OCI success rate or something went up pretty dramatically.
I never saw a source to confirm this, but there is something to say about your schools rankings correlating with better job prospects for your graduates, all else equal.


As for the whole softs vs numbers difference in regards to socioeconomic ties, I would say it was once more of a coin flip as to which was more biased but with the expansion of the internet and easy/cheap-to-access information regarding how to prep for these tests, the gap has closed considerably. The same cannot be said for building a resume full of significant softs.

User avatar
kingsfield69
Posts: 344
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:52 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:36 pm

ChampagnePapi wrote:I think admissions are going to become more holistic but not necessarily in the way people think. I don't think "predicting academic performance" of applicants is really a logical or necessary objective to what they are doing nowadays, although I'm sure its part of the general groupthink. Everyone is on a damn curve so who gives a shit about how you think they're going to perform. Anyways, what really may have an impact is the economy and the bad press law schools are getting. I think schools will evaluate candidates more on how they think they will do in OCI or come hiring time. Admitting socially awkward or mentally weak candidates can hurt employment stats in the long run, which COULD hurt USNWR ranking but also the school's reputation and marketability in general. So its not really holisitic, but its more than GPA/LSAT.

Then again, this isnt really an issue at HLS where everyone's getting jobs. But you could see it at non-HYS T14's, and I think we're seeing it, with Chicago's new interview process.

Combine that with YP, non-URM diversity (which I think doesn't get discussed enough on here, schools want things like geographic diversity to market themselves), and REAL softs (not frat/internship/volunteer BS, but the type of strong softs that matter like military, awards, etc), and you have enough non-GPA/LSAT/URM factors to explain why some people with numbers get in and some do not. But B-School isn't that holistic either, you need the numbers to be considered, which is the same as law school and that will never change


Agree with your assessment. Virtually no process under the sun is "fine as is" ... processes and systems have to change because the environments within which they operate are constantly changing. If indeed there is an adjustment underway that considers softs more "holistically" ...it's got more to do with law schools having a process that serves their objectives and less to do with "classism." It does seem to make sense that with a sharp decline in applications, there's probably no more suitable opportunity to bring work experience a little closer to the center of the evaluation. My own experience this cycle is that schools are treating the numbers as a threshold and considering the softs thoroughly.

User avatar
leebs2
Posts: 102
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:09 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby leebs2 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:43 pm

Based on this cycle...I'm going to guess that 3 JS1's will be sent out at 4:56 today.

Anonymous4444
Posts: 631
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:41 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:56 pm

:cry: oh js1 i want thee

User avatar
leebs2
Posts: 102
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:09 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby leebs2 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:35 pm

I miss Lavitz.....

04102014
Posts: 1696
Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:42 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 04102014 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:37 pm

leebs2 wrote:I miss Lavitz.....

User avatar
trojandave
Posts: 389
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:25 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby trojandave » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:59 pm

Image

User avatar
leebs2
Posts: 102
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:09 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby leebs2 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:00 pm

Today was a really quiet day...calm before the storm tomorrow?

User avatar
helix23
Posts: 1807
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:18 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:09 pm

leebs2 wrote:Today was a really quiet day...calm before the storm tomorrow?


Overly manly JS0

Image

JSY
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:48 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JSY » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:11 pm

trojandave wrote:Image


+1

User avatar
2012applicant2013
Posts: 86
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:25 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 2012applicant2013 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:34 pm

Is there a way to update materials to Harvard? (email, snail mail, LSAC)

housebro13
Posts: 170
Joined: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:12 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby housebro13 » Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:42 pm

2012applicant2013 wrote:Is there a way to update materials to Harvard? (email, snail mail, LSAC)


They will allow you to send updates through email. Just email admissions asking them to submit the update.

mommalee
Posts: 176
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:05 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby mommalee » Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:57 pm

housebro13 wrote:
2012applicant2013 wrote:Is there a way to update materials to Harvard? (email, snail mail, LSAC)


They will allow you to send updates through email. Just email admissions asking them to submit the update.


I sent an updated essay and they got back to me within two notifying me that it had been added to my file.

User avatar
Lavitz
Posts: 3098
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lavitz » Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:58 pm

trojandave wrote:Image


Image

User avatar
amsong
Posts: 426
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:42 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby amsong » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:00 am

Lavitz wrote:
trojandave wrote:Image


Image


Marry me.

User avatar
Lavitz
Posts: 3098
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 1:39 am

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lavitz » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:03 am

amsong wrote:Marry me.

Lol, were you reading the In at Harvard thread?
spicyyoda17 wrote:
kingsfield69 wrote:
spicyyoda17 wrote:So that makes 3 of us with a spouse + a kid


Make it 4 of us. I'm bringing a wife and 2 kids! :)


Who should we nominate to go to the Harvard applicant thread and tell them that being married with a kid is a soft they may want to pursue?

User avatar
amsong
Posts: 426
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:42 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby amsong » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:09 am

Lavitz wrote:
amsong wrote:Marry me.

Lol, were you reading the In at Harvard thread?
spicyyoda17 wrote:
kingsfield69 wrote:
spicyyoda17 wrote:So that makes 3 of us with a spouse + a kid


Make it 4 of us. I'm bringing a wife and 2 kids! :)


Who should we nominate to go to the Harvard applicant thread and tell them that being married with a kid is a soft they may want to pursue?


Ha! Hadn't seen that, but now there's an additional practical reason.

User avatar
helix23
Posts: 1807
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:18 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:15 am

wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.

shntn
Posts: 5319
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:45 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shntn » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:16 am

helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.

Several times over, actually.

User avatar
amsong
Posts: 426
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:42 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby amsong » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:19 am

helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.


Sample playlist, or it didn't happen.

User avatar
trojandave
Posts: 389
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:25 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby trojandave » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:21 am

helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.


I'm getting my ke$ha request in early.

User avatar
helix23
Posts: 1807
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:18 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby helix23 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:24 am

amsong wrote:
helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.


Sample playlist, or it didn't happen.


I don't have "playlists." That's the beauty of my sets. I feel the rhthyms and dynamics of the party/setting and respond accordingly. It is versatile and amorphic.

User avatar
wbrother
Posts: 499
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:02 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wbrother » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:02 am

This thread is the real reason I want to go to Harvard.

User avatar
kingsfield69
Posts: 344
Joined: Mon Nov 05, 2012 2:52 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kingsfield69 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:00 am

helix23 wrote:
amsong wrote:
helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.


Sample playlist, or it didn't happen.


I don't have "playlists." That's the beauty of my sets. I feel the rhthyms and dynamics of the party/setting and respond accordingly. It is versatile and amorphic.


This is that moment, which occurs at least once/day, when I say "dang I hope Helix goes to HLS."

User avatar
amsong
Posts: 426
Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:42 pm

Re: Harvard c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby amsong » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:35 am

kingsfield69 wrote:
helix23 wrote:
amsong wrote:
helix23 wrote:wow a TLS wedding. Has it been done? Please let me DJ. I have a great taste in music.


Sample playlist, or it didn't happen.


I don't have "playlists." That's the beauty of my sets. I feel the rhthyms and dynamics of the party/setting and respond accordingly. It is versatile and amorphic.


This is that moment, which occurs at least once/day, when I say "dang I hope Helix goes to HLS."


+1




Return to “Law School Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], LawSchoolTitan and 21 guests