Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:53 am

My status date changed this morning for the first time since 12/12! I hope to hear back soon. My numbers (166/3.25) are subpar for Cornell to say the least, but the fact that I wasn't auto-dinged gives me a little bit of hope. How long did everyone have to wait after the latest update for a decision?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby CR2012 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:10 am

Just got an update today. Panic.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dream Weave » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:36 am

Deferred back in December. No update here

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby danitt » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:40 am

Dream Weave wrote:Deferred back in December. No update here

End of November, same boat. I'm wondering if a phone call might be appropriate right now because I've already sent in a LOCI.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:37 pm

danitt wrote:
Dream Weave wrote:Deferred back in December. No update here

End of November, same boat. I'm wondering if a phone call might be appropriate right now because I've already sent in a LOCI.


No

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Dream Weave » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:39 pm

+ 1

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LRGhost » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:54 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:My status date changed this morning for the first time since 12/12! I hope to hear back soon. My numbers (166/3.25) are subpar for Cornell to say the least, but the fact that I wasn't auto-dinged gives me a little bit of hope. How long did everyone have to wait after the latest update for a decision?


Pulling for you dude. Best of luck.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby maxiguess » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:07 pm

My date changed too. 168/3.1
Expecting a wait list (my fourth) at best.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby tdense » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:10 pm

Was accepted on Friday with a 166, 3.75 and Cornell is the best school I've gotten into. Absolutely love the school, but assuming I will get absolutely nothing in terms of scholarship. Do you guys think Cornell is worth paying sticker (hopefully my parents can cover COL, crossing my fingers anyway)? Thanks!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby CMHCLT » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:13 pm

Put on reserve.
167/3.6
TFA
my cycle has been below average (even for my numbers)
dammit.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:14 pm

tdense wrote:Was accepted on Friday with a 166, 3.75 and Cornell is the best school I've gotten into. Absolutely love the school, but assuming I will get absolutely nothing in terms of scholarship. Do you guys think Cornell is worth paying sticker (hopefully my parents can cover COL, crossing my fingers anyway)? Thanks!


With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby radar714 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:38 pm

CMHCLT wrote:Put on reserve.
167/3.6
TFA
my cycle has been below average (even for my numbers)
dammit.


what the fuck does this even mean? Just got "reserved" today...I feel like a god damn restaurant. Is this a good or bad sign? If I have to wait til May just to get rejected or waitlisted I may go insane

edit: 3.6/166

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby CMHCLT » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:52 pm

radar714 wrote:
CMHCLT wrote:Put on reserve.
167/3.6
TFA
my cycle has been below average (even for my numbers)
dammit.


what the fuck does this even mean? Just got "reserved" today...I feel like a god damn restaurant. Is this a good or bad sign? If I have to wait til May just to get rejected or waitlisted I may go insane

edit: 3.6/166


I know, man, it's beyond aggravating. Took them three months to tell me they need another three months to make a decision. Trying my best to remain a rational decision maker, but it is not easy. Best of luck to you and everyone else.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby smdpnp » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:58 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

Search the forums, and you'll find many 2Ls, 3Ls, and graduates who disagree.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LRGhost » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:02 pm

smdpnp wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

Many 0Ls use this line to convince themselves that taking out huge loans is a good idea. Search the forums, and you'll find many 2Ls, 3Ls, and graduates who disagree.


I know this isn't the place to talk about it, but remember, 250k loans collecting interest when your take home is 95k in a very expensive city doesn't let you pay off loans super fast. That plus half of your big law class being out by their third year makes it even more daunting. It's a gamble every step of the way from betting on yourself to get big law to betting on yourself to last in big law to then betting on yourself to either become a mid level or senior associate (which few do) or securing a strong exit in a location where you want to settle down. Even if you were all but guaranteed big law, it's still incredibly risky.
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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby maxiguess » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Yayoi!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shntn » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:05 pm

Those $150k and $120k schollies on LSN are all Dean's Scholarships, right?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:12 pm

LRGhost wrote:
smdpnp wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

Many 0Ls use this line to convince themselves that taking out huge loans is a good idea. Search the forums, and you'll find many 2Ls, 3Ls, and graduates who disagree.


I know this isn't the place to talk about it, but remember, 250k loans collecting interest when your take home is 95k in a very expensive city doesn't let you pay off loans super fast. That plus half of your big law class being out by their third year makes it even more daunting. It's a gamble every step of the way from betting on yourself to get big law to betting on yourself to last in big law to then betting on yourself to either become a mid level or senior associate (which few do) or securing a strong exit in a location where you want to settle down. Even if you were all but guaranteed big law, it's still incredibly risky.


I'm coming back to Kansas City regardless. COL is stupid cheap here, although first year associates make ~110K instead of 160K. I get that it's still a huge risk, but I want to do corporate law, and not just for the money. I am looking forward to finding stupid loopholes in regulations so my clients can weasel out of trouble. It's a libertarian thing.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:13 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
LRGhost wrote:
smdpnp wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

Many 0Ls use this line to convince themselves that taking out huge loans is a good idea. Search the forums, and you'll find many 2Ls, 3Ls, and graduates who disagree.


I know this isn't the place to talk about it, but remember, 250k loans collecting interest when your take home is 95k in a very expensive city doesn't let you pay off loans super fast. That plus half of your big law class being out by their third year makes it even more daunting. It's a gamble every step of the way from betting on yourself to get big law to betting on yourself to last in big law to then betting on yourself to either become a mid level or senior associate (which few do) or securing a strong exit in a location where you want to settle down. Even if you were all but guaranteed big law, it's still incredibly risky.


I'm coming back to Kansas City regardless. COL is stupid cheap here, although first year associates make ~110K instead of 160K. I get that it's still a huge risk, but I want to do corporate law, and not just for the money. I am looking forward to finding stupid loopholes in regulations so my clients can weasel out of trouble. It's a libertarian thing.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:14 pm

LRGhost wrote:
smdpnp wrote:
MarkinKansasCity wrote:With a ~50% chance at biglaw @ ~160k a year, I think you can justify the debt. It still sucks, but I think it would make sense long term.

Many 0Ls use this line to convince themselves that taking out huge loans is a good idea. Search the forums, and you'll find many 2Ls, 3Ls, and graduates who disagree.


I know this isn't the place to talk about it, but remember, 250k loans collecting interest when your take home is 95k in a very expensive city doesn't let you pay off loans super fast. That plus half of your big law class being out by their third year makes it even more daunting. It's a gamble every step of the way from betting on yourself to get big law to betting on yourself to last in big law to then betting on yourself to either become a mid level or senior associate (which few do) or securing a strong exit in a location where you want to settle down. Even if you were all but guaranteed big law, it's still incredibly risky.

this is so depressing :(

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby LRGhost » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:30 pm

It doesn't have to be, though. If you are prepared for the grind, know what you're getting in to, and make the best decisions you can considering your desires, it's whatever. It's not a GOOD situation, but it's better than some alternatives.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shntn » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:32 pm

LRGhost wrote:It doesn't have to be, though. If you are prepared for the grind, know what you're getting in to, and make the best decisions you can considering your desires, it's whatever. It's not a GOOD situation, but it's better than some alternatives.

I understand being risk-averse, but this.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:38 pm

shntn wrote:
LRGhost wrote:It doesn't have to be, though. If you are prepared for the grind, know what you're getting in to, and make the best decisions you can considering your desires, it's whatever. It's not a GOOD situation, but it's better than some alternatives.

I understand being risk-averse, but this.


+1. We're all taking huge risks here. At the very least we're giving up three years of our lives to enter a profession that is incredibly overcrowded.

I asked earlier, but after my status date going from 12/12 to 3/4 today, anyone care to guess how much longer it will be before they issue a decision? This shit is killing me, especially since one of the decision options is the waitlist; i.e. "We decided not to decide yet."

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby VeeD101 » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:44 pm

MarkinKansasCity wrote:
shntn wrote:
LRGhost wrote:It doesn't have to be, though. If you are prepared for the grind, know what you're getting in to, and make the best decisions you can considering your desires, it's whatever. It's not a GOOD situation, but it's better than some alternatives.

I understand being risk-averse, but this.


+1. We're all taking huge risks here. At the very least we're giving up three years of our lives to enter a profession that is incredibly overcrowded.

I asked earlier, but after my status date going from 12/12 to 3/4 today, anyone care to guess how much longer it will be before they issue a decision? This shit is killing me, especially since one of the decision options is the waitlist; i.e. "We decided not to decide yet."


So after being complete since January, my status changed on 2/11 and 2/22 and I got the decision on March 1. If they keep up the same pace, I'd say 2.5-3 weeks?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby boblawlob » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:46 pm

LRGhost wrote:It doesn't have to be, though. If you are prepared for the grind, know what you're getting in to, and make the best decisions you can considering your desires, it's whatever. It's not a GOOD situation, but it's better than some alternatives.

If you know you're in deep shit with loans, then realize you need to pay attention in class and study 24/7 (essentially if you are not the genius type). Don't gchat or facebook during class lectures. This won't make people sympathize with you when you complain in 3L about having no job offers.




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