Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:57 am

Since I didn't even get the 45K I was speculating about I went ahead and withdrew. I think I was one of about two TLSers who defended GULC through this whole process and would have actually considered attending (at a resonable price of course). Considering I jumped through all their hoops and gave them heartfelt responses and the fact that I have been accepted to higher ranked schools with superior employment prospects with $$ I can't help but feel a bit slighted. Oh well. I don't really see most of the people who got offered money yesterday attending either. As I said before I'm sure they will have no shortage of people lining up to pay sticker. But it will be interesting to see what the number composition of the class will be after all the dust settles this cycle. 168 median at best, maybe even a 167?

GL the rest of the way for those of you still waiting on a decision and/or money.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bluecouch » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:59 am

Cicero76 wrote:
They hadn't allocated any money yet. This was after the first email, when we were all supposed to respond to them with what level of money it would take for us to attend there. I had said in my email withdrawing that I thought it was kind of ridiculous to do it "initial selection " based on nothing except my answer to their question. The lady on the phone was trying to explain that the initial selection had actually been based on a thorough review of our application and a "holistic process." But if that were so, why didn't they "holistically review" my application before sending out the initial invitation to apply for merit aid? Once They sent out that invitation, the only new info they had to reject me was the amount I wanted. The lady never explained that.


I know that we've already covered this ITT, but... I really don't think they eliminated folks based on how much they asked for after the first email. In the email, they also asked about how seriously you were considering Georgetown. I used the initial email to write a "Why Georgetown" essay with only the final paragraph addressing the funding request (with a justification based on my other offers and career goals). I also asked for $120,000 and was subsequently selected to write the 150-word follow up, and others ITT asked for more and received the follow-up email. (I was selected as an "Alternate" for merit aid after submitting my 150-word response, btw).

I really don't see how this differs substantially than the process at other schools. At Northwestern, for example, you are basically asked to write a "Why NU" essay and an essay justifying why you should receive merit and need aid. The only difference here is that if Georgetown knows flat out that they aren't willing to give you merit aid based on a "holistic" review of your application, they don't waste your time by asking you write essays.

I concede that Georgetown could have done a better job making the process more transparent so that applicants/admitted students would know definitively whether or not they had a chance at merit aid. People shouldn't have to wait around wondering when merit aid offers will go out if they did not receive the initial merit aid email.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby MacB » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:03 am

If people are confused by this merit aid process, it's because Georgetown's actions are very confusing. The alternate email says to write if I have any questions. I have half a mind to send an email back bluntly asking "What were you guys trying to accomplish here? What was the point of this 150 word essay and what were you looking for in it? Why string people along for so long just to offer a significant portion of them nothing? Etc." We'll see how that goes.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:06 am

bluecouch wrote:At Northwestern, for example, you are basically asked to write a "Why NU" essay and an essay justifying why you should receive merit and need aid. The only difference here is that if Georgetown knows flat out that they aren't willing to give you merit aid based on a "holistic" review of your application, they don't waste your time by asking you write essays.

Yeah, I much prefer G-town's process to NU's merit aid application. Those essays sucked big time. The answer to Georgetown's request was easy (and fun) to write.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:10 am

Just withdrew. Best of luck, all!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:36 am

twinkletoes16 wrote:Just withdrew. Best of luck, all!

Where do you think you'll end up twinkle? Where would you love to end up ?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:52 am

toothbrush wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:Just withdrew. Best of luck, all!

Where do you think you'll end up twinkle? Where would you love to end up ?



Ideally Tahiti, but I guess I'd settle for Hawaii.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:56 am

twinkletoes16 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:Just withdrew. Best of luck, all!

Where do you think you'll end up twinkle? Where would you love to end up ?



Ideally Tahiti, but I guess I'd settle for Hawaii.

I hear Hawaii is nice in September

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Bfalcon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:06 pm

toothbrush wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:
toothbrush wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:Just withdrew. Best of luck, all!

Where do you think you'll end up twinkle? Where would you love to end up ?



Ideally Tahiti, but I guess I'd settle for Hawaii.

I hear Hawaii is nice in September



Sigh...aloha! I'd trade ya places any day. You can have my truck if I can have your surf board!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby boris78 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:04 am

Dmini7 wrote:Those of you who have been waitlisted, when was your last complete? Sorry for those of you who did not get the offers they were hoping for. It seems Georgetown has been disappointing pretty much everyone this year.


Complete 1/30 ish, interview 2/22, updates, then decision 2/28 (waitlist)

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby florida1949 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:38 am

Gisney wrote:So if we didn't get an merit letter today or an alternate, does that mean no money or are there rounds?


interested in this. what do you guys think of sending them an e-mail asking them to kindly reconsider?

if i am not receiving money, i'll probably just withdraw.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby justonemoregame » Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:09 am

I've never had to jump through so many hoops for so little gain.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bailey8078 » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:22 pm

No indication I was being considered for scholarship. Would need a lot to convince me to attend.

Withdrew

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JedBartlet » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:08 pm

Hi everyone I'm new here.

Could somebody explain the general merit-aid process that seems to be so unpopular? Do you get an email to let you know you are being considered or do you have to apply for something? I got an acceptance letter last week but didn't hear anything about scholarships and didn't see any merit info on the asw.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jym_dawg » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:27 pm

JedBartlet wrote:Hi everyone I'm new here.

Could somebody explain the general merit-aid process that seems to be so unpopular? Do you get an email to let you know you are being considered or do you have to apply for something? I got an acceptance letter last week but didn't hear anything about scholarships and didn't see any merit info on the asw.


To the best of my knowledge:

You receive an email indicating that you are one of a select few applicants being considered for $. GULC asks where it fits into your thinking, what scholarship offers you have, and what amount of money you would want to attend GULC. Most people also use this response as an opportunity to write what is effectively a LOCI highlighting what you like about GULC. Within about three weeks you'll either be notified that they cannot offer you any aid or you have been selected as a finalist. Finalists are asked to write 150 words (the last prompt was something about your biggest mistake IIRC). A few weeks after this, you'll be notified of your award or that you were selected as an alternate to receive scholarship money. It seems that everyone on TLS who received a merit award has gone through this process, so getting that first email initiating the process is necessary but (obviously) not sufficient to get merit $.

HTH (also this might help understand why peeps are not happy with GULC)
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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby JedBartlet » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:47 pm

Oh wow that sounds slow. Thank you, now I understand.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby catatat » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:02 pm

Did anyone here apply for the Global Law Scholars program? Any idea when we'll hear back about that?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby vzapana » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:48 am

Withdrew my app and gave up my scholly offer. I hope this opens up a spot for one of you still waiting! Good luck guys.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby HankBashir » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:00 am

I just replied to the merit scholarship e-mail that they sent on Friday.

Here's hoping I didn't ask for too much and they don't ding me for that.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ALgooner » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:51 pm

Was just invited to interview with an alumni. Sent my app 1/12. I don't remember when I went complete but I've had a couple of updates since then.

What is the longest that those who went through this were asked to drive? I live in Alabama, and don't imagine that there are many GULC alums here. Also, any details on the interview experience would be appreciated! I read a little about it by looking back through the thread but any more info would be great.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby FromDCtoWhere » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:56 pm

ALgooner wrote:Was just invited to interview with an alumni. Sent my app 1/12. I don't remember when I went complete but I've had a couple of updates since then.

What is the longest that those who went through this were asked to drive? I live in Alabama, and don't imagine that there are many GULC alums here. Also, any details on the interview experience would be appreciated! I read a little about it by looking back through the thread but any more info would be great.


Hey ALgooner, I did an on-campus interview with the dean, so I don't know if this is necessarily applicable for alumni interviews, but nonetheless I hope it helps!

The interview I attended seemed to be judging the applicants on their ability to function in a group setting and think on their feet. The dean gave us scenarios, a very short amount of time to confer with our groups, then quizzed us on our arguments and our ability to stand by them.

Overall, it seems that getting asked to interview is a positive sign for your application. Good luck, I hope it goes well!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BNEGOP » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:37 pm

What are thoughts on George Washington Law vs. Georgetown? Obviously, I know that GULC is ranked higher, but GW gave me a scholly....trying to decide if it is worth it. FWIW, I want to do legislative counsel/government work, so I dont really expect to make tons of money post graduation.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby GoldHattedGatsby » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:12 pm

On my second update since group interviewing last week. 3/1 then 3/4... Come on GTown just make up your mind already!
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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby toothbrush » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:25 pm

GoldHattedGatsby wrote:On my second update since group interviewing last week. 3/1 then 3/4... Come go GTown just make up your mind already!

Same.. I think we interviewed on the same day too.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby xjustyoursmile » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:28 pm

Sent in my first deposit. Good luck everyone and I hope to see some of you at ASW or in the Fall!




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