Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:41 pm

lossmit wrote:Hi, any insight into how many changes in status date an applicant typically sees before a decision is rendered?


Lulz

Also to the guy above, I have medianish stats and asked for the moon and am a finalist. If you guys want to have theories about all this then fine but look at the actual facts first before typing.

Eta I have said that in this thread repeatedly but people keep pushing through with their theories.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bluecouch » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:52 pm

BigZuck wrote:
Also to the guy above, I have medianish stats and asked for the moon and am a finalist. If you guys want to have theories about all this then fine but look at the actual facts first before typing.

Eta I have said that in this thread repeatedly but people keep pushing through with their theories.


+1 again. I also have medianish stats and asked for $120K and am a finalist. I really don't think it's a simple "LSAT/GPS + $$$ requested" formula they are using.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby risa » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:07 pm

Thank you for your message. We have added your response to your file for the Scholarship Committee's review. We will be back in touch with you in early March.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby kckool7 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:19 pm

lossmit wrote:Hi, any insight into how many changes in status date an applicant typically sees before a decision is rendered?

Consensus seems to be three.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby UMich11 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:24 pm

kckool7 wrote:
lossmit wrote:Hi, any insight into how many changes in status date an applicant typically sees before a decision is rendered?

Consensus seems to be three.


3 in addition to the date of completion, or including that date?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby venus » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:28 pm

UMich11 wrote:
kckool7 wrote:
lossmit wrote:Hi, any insight into how many changes in status date an applicant typically sees before a decision is rendered?

Consensus seems to be three.


3 in addition to the date of completion, or including that date?

In addition to... So a total of 4 different dates.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TrialLawyer16 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:09 pm

Wow.. most of you guys aren't seeing it now, but this was an absolutely genius move by GULC. And mutually beneficial. Bravo.

This strategy not only helps GULC, but overall it helps applicants as well. For GULC, it's not quite "yield protecting" since the email was only sent to applicants who were already admitted. However, as I saw one poster mention earlier, it could be in one way: It could potentially help applicants enroll who would love to attend GULC, but under standard scholarship offerring practices would have received nothing until someone using scholly $ as leverage withdrew in May/June (past the first and maybe even second seat deposit deadline). This could be a student who had his heart set on GULC, but received maybe 80k from USC and nothing from GULC. 60k would have been enough to bring that applicant to GULC, but since he had nothing, he puts down his seat deposit at USC and goes through the heart-wringing process of detaching himself from his admiration for GULC and falling in love with USC. The only reason he, and another student in his exact same situation, couldn't get that 60k was because GULC gave 120k to a 3.93/174 who was busy using that 120k to negotiate a full-ride out of CCNMVPB and under absolutely no circumstances would have attended G. By the time the 3.93/172 decides to withdraw, those two students that would have gone to GULC with just the 60k have already put down their seat deposits and moved on. Now GULC is out of three applicants. If you were a law school would you give that money to students who had already paid both seat deposits? Law school is a business, so you wouldn't. Then what happens to that 120k that they offered to the 3.93/172? In many cases they end up bringing in a guy off the waitlist with a scholarship. All of a sudden you're sitting in the library at GULC with your three buddies only to find out you had a 3.8/169 and are paying sticker at GULC, while your three 3.6/167 friends received 40k scholarships off the waitlist.

I don't know if you guys read that article from not too long ago in maybe summer/fall 2012 when Dean Z was stating that things have gotten so competitive that students who wouldn't have even been admitted to certain schools are getting into those same schools with extremely large scholarships. Therefore, resulting in a good number of applicants with less competitive applications receiving fairly larger scholarships than their more competitive peers. I also believe that in that same article either she, or another dean, said that it wouldn't be long until law schools figured out a way to combat that problem. Whether or not this was part of the reasoning behind GULC's decision to go about their scholarship process this way, I think what will end up being a by-product of it is at least a partial solution to the problem Dean Z was referencing.

ETA: Fixed a typo in the last line.
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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby boblawlob » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:18 pm

TrialLawyer16 wrote:Wow.. most of you guys aren't seeing it now, but this was an absolutely genius move by GULC. And mutually beneficial. Bravo.

This strategy not only helps GULC, but overall it helps applicants as well. For GULC, it's not quite "yield protecting" since the email was only sent to applicants who were already admitted. However, as I saw one poster mention earlier, it could be in one way: It could potentially help applicants enroll who would love to attend GULC, but under standard scholarship offerring practices would have received nothing until someone using scholly $ as leverage withdrew in May/June (past the first and maybe even second seat deposit deadline). This could be a student who had his heart set on GULC, but received maybe 80k from USC and nothing from GULC. 60k would have been enough to bring that applicant to GULC, but since he had nothing, he puts down his seat deposit at USC and goes through the heart-wringing process of detaching himself from his admiration for GULC and falling in love with USC. The only reason he, and another student in his exact same situation, couldn't get that 60k was because GULC gave 120k to a 3.93/174 who was busy using that 120k to negotiate a full-ride out of CCNMVPB and under absolutely no circumstances would have attended G. By the time the 3.93/172 decides to withdraw, those two students that would have gone to GULC with just the 60k have already put down their seat deposits and moved on. Now GULC is out of three applicants. If you were a law school would you give that money to students who had already paid both seat deposits? Law school is a business, so you wouldn't. Then what happens to that 120k that they offered to the 3.93/172? In many cases they end up bringing in a guy off the waitlist with a scholarship. All of a sudden you're sitting in the library at GULC with your three buddies only to find out you had a 3.8/169 and are paying sticker at GULC, while your three 3.6/167 friends received 40k scholarships off the waitlist.

I don't know if you guys read that article from not too long ago in maybe summer/fall 2012 when Dean Z was stating that things have gotten so competitive that students who wouldn't have even been admitted to certain schools are getting into those same schools with extremely large scholarships. Therefore, resulting in a good number of applicants with less competitive applications receiving fairly larger scholarships than their more competitive peers. I also believe that in that same article either she, or another dean, said that it wouldn't be long until law schools figured out a way to combat that problem. Whether or not this was part of the reasoning behind GULC's decision to go about their scholarship process this way, I think what will end up behind a by-product of it is at least a partial solution to the problem Dean Z was referencing.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:28 pm

Hey, law schools: You want students to stop being so money hungry? Try bringing tuition and class sizes more in line with employment outcomes.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby fallingup » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:29 pm

Are you that GULC meth guy? #walloftext

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby uconjak » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:10 pm

GULC is my top choice or those schools i have been accepted at. I got some pretty good scholly so far. But the money is probably going to make my decision, i'm afraid. GW - 90k, USC - 120k, fordham-75k, iowa-78k, UCLA-48k(maybe 105k). Thoughts on the shollies at GULC?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Jonathk1 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:37 pm

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby cutebookwormxoxo » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:50 pm

Ding! :-/

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Lavitz » Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:30 am

bananasplit19 wrote:Selfishly, if you're going to withdraw, could you do it expeditiously? Some of us on the held list would sure appreciate it. :wink:

As you wish :)

Withdrawn. Good luck to everyone still waiting to hear back about admission and/or scholarships!

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby WDH » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:35 am

Jonathk1 wrote:Interesting analysis.

On a side note, had my alumni interview 2/5 and haven't had any updates since then. Completely quiet. Should I email GULC about what I should expect from this point forward? Any thoughts appreciated.


I've been wondering about something similar. I was interviewed 1/21, and a status checker update of 1/22. Then nothing...

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:23 am

TrialLawyer16 wrote:Wow.. most of you guys aren't seeing it now, but this was an absolutely genius move by GULC. And mutually beneficial. Bravo.

This strategy not only helps GULC, but overall it helps applicants as well. For GULC, it's not quite "yield protecting" since the email was only sent to applicants who were already admitted. However, as I saw one poster mention earlier, it could be in one way: It could potentially help applicants enroll who would love to attend GULC, but under standard scholarship offerring practices would have received nothing until someone using scholly $ as leverage withdrew in May/June (past the first and maybe even second seat deposit deadline). This could be a student who had his heart set on GULC, but received maybe 80k from USC and nothing from GULC. 60k would have been enough to bring that applicant to GULC, but since he had nothing, he puts down his seat deposit at USC and goes through the heart-wringing process of detaching himself from his admiration for GULC and falling in love with USC. The only reason he, and another student in his exact same situation, couldn't get that 60k was because GULC gave 120k to a 3.93/174 who was busy using that 120k to negotiate a full-ride out of CCNMVPB and under absolutely no circumstances would have attended G. By the time the 3.93/172 decides to withdraw, those two students that would have gone to GULC with just the 60k have already put down their seat deposits and moved on. Now GULC is out of three applicants. If you were a law school would you give that money to students who had already paid both seat deposits? Law school is a business, so you wouldn't. Then what happens to that 120k that they offered to the 3.93/172? In many cases they end up bringing in a guy off the waitlist with a scholarship. All of a sudden you're sitting in the library at GULC with your three buddies only to find out you had a 3.8/169 and are paying sticker at GULC, while your three 3.6/167 friends received 40k scholarships off the waitlist.

I don't know if you guys read that article from not too long ago in maybe summer/fall 2012 when Dean Z was stating that things have gotten so competitive that students who wouldn't have even been admitted to certain schools are getting into those same schools with extremely large scholarships. Therefore, resulting in a good number of applicants with less competitive applications receiving fairly larger scholarships than their more competitive peers. I also believe that in that same article either she, or another dean, said that it wouldn't be long until law schools figured out a way to combat that problem. Whether or not this was part of the reasoning behind GULC's decision to go about their scholarship process this way, I think what will end up being a by-product of it is at least a partial solution to the problem Dean Z was referencing.

ETA: Fixed a typo in the last line.

So I would take this to mean that those with superb numbers who were admitted after the scholarship email wave are in a good position to wait until March/April when the high offers withdraw to negotiate for a ridiculous scholarship.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Big Dog » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:42 am

I have medianish stats and asked for the moon and am a finalist.


That's because you are a special snowflake. :P

Check back in when they make that $$ offer, will ya?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby turn left » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:46 am

uconjak wrote:GULC is my top choice or those schools i have been accepted at. I got some pretty good scholly so far. But the money is probably going to make my decision, i'm afraid. GW - 90k, USC - 120k, fordham-75k, iowa-78k, UCLA-48k(maybe 105k). Thoughts on the shollies at GULC?


I'm in a similar boat with GULC being my top choice. I have USC-75k, UCLA-60k and Emory 81k.

Didn't get the initial scholarship email but 45k would likely be enough for me to choose GULC...

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BigZuck » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:01 pm

Big Dog wrote:
I have medianish stats and asked for the moon and am a finalist.


That's because you are a special snowflake. :P

Check back in when they make that $$ offer, will ya?


NP brobro, you know I will. Expecting maybe 60k max (which would not be nearly enough), but we shall see. I'll keep you posted, do you want me to PM you as well or will posting in this thread be enough?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ssanonymous » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:44 pm

Who else is applying for PILS?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:47 pm

ssanonymous wrote:Who else is applying for PILS?


Right here. When do we hear? Is it numbers based?

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ssanonymous » Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:51 pm

pedestrian wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:Who else is applying for PILS?


Right here. When do we hear? Is it numbers based?


I think they announce it in April, and I think they decide on previous work experience/interest area. They have profiles up of previous scholars.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby risa » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:19 pm

pedestrian wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:Who else is applying for PILS?


Right here. When do we hear? Is it numbers based?

yo.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby racrfish » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:20 pm

Three updates so far. No clue what to expect.

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Re: Georgetown c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Rory19 » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:21 pm

risa wrote:
pedestrian wrote:
ssanonymous wrote:Who else is applying for PILS?


Right here. When do we hear? Is it numbers based?

yo.


+1




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