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Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:20 am
by hinakas
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:45 am
by bluecouch
hinakas wrote:
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!


I agree. It makes me wonder how they've categorized the pile our apps are all sitting in...

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:20 am
by testaker
Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:44 am
by TorturedApplicant
bluecouch wrote:
hinakas wrote:
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!


I agree. It makes me wonder how they've categorized the pile our apps are all sitting in...


"Suckers". Complete since mid-feb. Nothing.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:47 am
by bluecouch
TorturedApplicant wrote:
bluecouch wrote:
hinakas wrote:
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!


I agree. It makes me wonder how they've categorized the pile our apps are all sitting in...


"Suckers". Complete since mid-feb. Nothing.


LOL so true.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:32 pm
by intlsplitr
bluecouch wrote:
hinakas wrote:
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!


I agree. It makes me wonder how they've categorized the pile our apps are all sitting in...


When is the first deposit deadline? Could they be waiting to see what the yield is like? Though, I suppose if that was the issue, they would just WL us...

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:47 pm
by zoidberg86
intlsplitr wrote:
bluecouch wrote:
hinakas wrote:
intlsplitr wrote:
It is definitely getting lonely 'round these parts.


I mean...it's gotta be a wl, at best, by now right? But seriously, why wait this long? Give us some closure!


I agree. It makes me wonder how they've categorized the pile our apps are all sitting in...


When is the first deposit deadline? Could they be waiting to see what the yield is like? Though, I suppose if that was the issue, they would just WL us...


April 30th

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:56 pm
by dolfan17
testaker wrote:Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks


I got them to raise my scholarship substantially. I was a little worried because I had heard that they didn't negotiate but when I emailed they were very friendly and got back to me within 3 days. You should definitely try.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:59 pm
by jbagelboy
dolfan17 wrote:
testaker wrote:Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks


I got them to raise my scholarship substantially. I was a little worried because I had heard that they didn't negotiate but when I emailed they were very friendly and got back to me within 3 days. You should definitely try.


I did not succeed in raising mine, so its clearly a mixed bag. I think its depends on how low their initial offer was. They seemed pretty adamant for me though, so I'm giving up on Mich. I tried on 3 different occasions and was shot down (albeit kindly) 3 times.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:04 pm
by Micdiddy
Withdrawn. 90k back in the pool for y'all. Michigan seems like an awesome school so everyone have fun there!

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:04 pm
by MacB
jbagelboy wrote:I did not succeed in raising mine, so its clearly a mixed bag. I think its depends on how low their initial offer was. They seemed pretty adamant for me though, so I'm giving up on Mich. I tried on 3 different occasions and was shot down (albeit kindly) 3 times.


What was your initial offer and what did you ask for, if you don't mind me asking? I just got my award letter today and I'm trying to figure out if asking for an increase is worth it. Feel free to PM if you're more comfortable.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:08 pm
by halestorm
dolfan17 wrote:
testaker wrote:Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks


I got them to raise my scholarship substantially. I was a little worried because I had heard that they didn't negotiate but when I emailed they were very friendly and got back to me within 3 days. You should definitely try.


I've also had success. It's not a lost cause!

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:24 pm
by smdpnp
Nope.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:32 pm
by jbagelboy
halestorm wrote:
dolfan17 wrote:
testaker wrote:Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks


I got them to raise my scholarship substantially. I was a little worried because I had heard that they didn't negotiate but when I emailed they were very friendly and got back to me within 3 days. You should definitely try.


I've also had success. It's not a lost cause!


how?

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:35 pm
by jbagelboy
MacB wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:I did not succeed in raising mine, so its clearly a mixed bag. I think its depends on how low their initial offer was. They seemed pretty adamant for me though, so I'm giving up on Mich. I tried on 3 different occasions and was shot down (albeit kindly) 3 times.


What was your initial offer and what did you ask for, if you don't mind me asking? I just got my award letter today and I'm trying to figure out if asking for an increase is worth it. Feel free to PM if you're more comfortable.


Oh its fine. they aren't going to budge so if I'm outted whatever. I got $22,500/yr initially. Showed them Duke and NU @ $30K/yr, they wouldn't touch it. Was really interested in Michigan too and I made my interest clear; my emails were very polite so I don't think it was that.

They also admitted their numbers are very much pegged to your stats. if you hit a certain gpa/lsat metric, you'll get slotted with a certain award.

edit: I was also shot down on any need aid even tho I'm not wealthy. if they give you a merit award, it severely diminishes your chance at need based. rather frustrating since people get $25K+/yr in need based alone

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:57 pm
by qwertyboard
jbagelboy wrote:
MacB wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:I did not succeed in raising mine, so its clearly a mixed bag. I think its depends on how low their initial offer was. They seemed pretty adamant for me though, so I'm giving up on Mich. I tried on 3 different occasions and was shot down (albeit kindly) 3 times.


What was your initial offer and what did you ask for, if you don't mind me asking? I just got my award letter today and I'm trying to figure out if asking for an increase is worth it. Feel free to PM if you're more comfortable.


Oh its fine. they aren't going to budge so if I'm outted whatever. I got $22,500/yr initially. Showed them Duke and NU @ $30K/yr, they wouldn't touch it. Was really interested in Michigan too and I made my interest clear; my emails were very polite so I don't think it was that.

They also admitted their numbers are very much pegged to your stats. if you hit a certain gpa/lsat metric, you'll get slotted with a certain award.

edit: I was also shot down on any need aid even tho I'm not wealthy. if they give you a merit award, it severely diminishes your chance at need based. rather frustrating since people get $25K+/yr in need based alone


I applied for need-based aid and was offered 75k!!!..................................................................... in loans.

At least they made me laugh for a while.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:00 pm
by jbagelboy
qwertyboard wrote:
I applied for need-based aid and was offered 75k!!!..................................................................... in loans.

At least they made me laugh for a while.



I swear, the single biggest "syke!" in application history is when a law school "offers" you loans.


So. Over. Dealing. With. Financial. Aid. Departments.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:10 pm
by MacB
jbagelboy wrote:
qwertyboard wrote:
I applied for need-based aid and was offered 75k!!!..................................................................... in loans.

At least they made me laugh for a while.



I swear, the single biggest "syke!" in application history is when a law school "offers" you loans.


So. Over. Dealing. With. Financial. Aid. Departments.


I much prefer when they frame it as an "award." You have been awarded 50K per year... in loans... congrats on the award!! :lol:

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:16 pm
by qwertyboard
I think it's not an honest practice. It shouldn't be under "award notice". I feel the decision was already made based on my numbers before I applied for aid. Some of the important requirements like providing income tax returns were waived. How can you make an informed decision without important pieces of information?

edit.
There is this other guy that is in a similar economic situation and was offered 60k.

Should I even bother asking for a reconsideration?

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:40 pm
by TheMostDangerousLG
Application finally complete! Can't wait to hear back. :)

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:59 pm
by TripTrip
TheMostDangerousLG wrote:Application finally complete! Can't wait to hear back two cycles from now when they finish reviewing my app. :)

FTFY

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:01 pm
by TheMostDangerousLG
TripTrip wrote:
TheMostDangerousLG wrote:Application finally complete! Can't wait to hear back two cycles from now when they finish reviewing my app. :)

FTFY


Lolol, fair enough.

At least they processed my application. I'm pretty sure I'll hear back from Cornell when I'm receiving retirement benefits.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:10 pm
by dolfan17
smdpnp wrote:
halestorm wrote:
dolfan17 wrote:
testaker wrote:Has anyone had success with negotiating existing scholarships with Michigan? I know they say in their materials that they really don't negotiate, but someone at ASW thought that they might. Has anyone tried? Thanks


I got them to raise my scholarship substantially. I was a little worried because I had heard that they didn't negotiate but when I emailed they were very friendly and got back to me within 3 days. You should definitely try.


I've also had success. It's not a lost cause!

Which schools did you guys use to raise your Mich aid?


Northwestern

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 3:15 pm
by smdpnp
dolfan17 wrote:
smdpnp wrote:Which schools did you guys use to raise your Mich aid?

Northwestern

Wow, nice! Other TLSers didn't get anywhere with their Northwestern aid, so I didn't think to try. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Michigan (AKA Hogwarts) c/o 2016 Applicants Thread 2012-2013

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:28 pm
by jbagelboy
smdpnp wrote:
dolfan17 wrote:
smdpnp wrote:Which schools did you guys use to raise your Mich aid?

Northwestern

Wow, nice! Other TLSers didn't get anywhere with their Northwestern aid, so I didn't think to try. Thanks for the tip.


I'm under the impression that your NU offer has to be quite substantially higher than your Mich offer for them to revise. like crazy high

edit: please correct me if I'm wrong though