Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby az21833 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:39 pm

When does non named aid come out?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby J90 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:44 pm

az21833 wrote:When does non named aid come out?


Probably not for a while, sadly.

As far as I know, there's no explicit merit aid beyond the Butlers and Hamiltons. The financial aid deadline for need-based grants isn't until March 1, so they probably won't start processing until after that. I'd guess mid-March at the soonest, maybe later...

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby shakespeare » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 am

helix23 wrote:
dukie4 wrote:Is their a facebook?


Yep https://www.facebook.com/groups/436394923104544/


Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby digifly » Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:42 am

Lavitz wrote:Happy to say that I was not held this time.

But now I fully expect to be one of the forgotten. And I'm sure that when Columbia notices my app is still pending in August, they will react like this.


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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Crowing » Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:55 am

shakespeare wrote:
helix23 wrote:
dukie4 wrote:Is their a facebook?


Yep https://www.facebook.com/groups/436394923104544/


Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.


There's not much point in speculating about this. We have no idea what percentage of admits are in the fb group (I very much doubt it's the majority). Also idk what you mean by CLS taking around 300 students a year; I think they typically have around 400 matriculants (though they cut their class last year to like 360ish iirc). But that's also meaningless because matriculants =/= admits.

I can't even begin to guess how many people are held (there's just no data to even ballpark this) but it's pretty clear from previous years that CLS holds and reserves an assload of people and very few of them end up getting accepted. Idk why but CLS (and NYU too) pretty much never ding people above a certain number threshold even if there's no way they'll ever admit them short of all their current admits suddenly dying in a fire or something.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Just » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:40 am

Crowing wrote:
shakespeare wrote:
helix23 wrote:
dukie4 wrote:Is their a facebook?


Yep https://www.facebook.com/groups/436394923104544/


Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.


There's not much point in speculating about this. We have no idea what percentage of admits are in the fb group (I very much doubt it's the majority). Also idk what you mean by CLS taking around 300 students a year; I think they typically have around 400 matriculants (though they cut their class last year to like 360ish iirc). But that's also meaningless because matriculants =/= admits.

I can't even begin to guess how many people are held (there's just no data to even ballpark this) but it's pretty clear from previous years that CLS holds and reserves an assload of people and very few of them end up getting accepted. Idk why but CLS (and NYU too) pretty much never ding people above a certain number threshold even if there's no way they'll ever admit them short of all their current admits suddenly dying in a fire or something.


If true, that sounds so sad...

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby carboncopyx » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:46 am

shakespeare wrote:Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.

I can at least confirm that not all admitted students join the Facebook group--I wasn't even aware that there was a Facebook group until I saw the most recent post about it. Facebook groups are likely only a reliable indicator of admits when it's run by an admissions office that makes an active effort to reach out and invite the admits, I think (which CLS clearly does not do).

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby clouded.memory » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:15 am

carboncopyx wrote:
shakespeare wrote:Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.

I can at least confirm that not all admitted students join the Facebook group--I wasn't even aware that there was a Facebook group until I saw the most recent post about it. Facebook groups are likely only a reliable indicator of admits when it's run by an admissions office that makes an active effort to reach out and invite the admits, I think (which CLS clearly does not do).

+1. I wasn't aware there was a group, either...

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bob loblaw11 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:51 am

That awkward moment when you stalk the facebook page, despite not having heard a damn thing from Columbia, only to realize your boyfriend is mutual friends with someone in the class....

Slowly backing away now.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:59 am

bob loblaw11 wrote:That awkward moment when you stalk the facebook page, despite not having heard a damn thing from Columbia, only to realize your boyfriend is mutual friends with someone in the class....

Slowly backing away now.


This is precisely why I don't want my Facebook identity to embrace my future law school friends. Worlds collide - it's real!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby alexander22 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:31 am

Long-time lurker of this thread and TLS here. Pumped that this is my first post!

NCE yesterday in NC postmarked 2/14.

Numbers are 173, 3.4

Still hope for splitters out there!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby ksd2138 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:39 am

alexander22 wrote:Long-time lurker of this thread and TLS here. Pumped that this is my first post!

NCE yesterday in NC postmarked 2/14.

Numbers are 173, 3.4

Still hope for splitters out there!


When did you apply?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby alexander22 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:48 am

Applied right around Thanksgiving, complete 12/1.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby J90 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:49 am

clouded.memory wrote:
carboncopyx wrote:
shakespeare wrote:Only 65 people on their fbook group...can we assume that some admitted people didn't want to join the fb group (cuz they're in at HYS)? And don't they take around 300 students/year?

I guess what I'm trying to ask if: Is there hope for us Held applicants? And, how many can we expect to be on Hold anyhow? I'd say approx. 1000.

I can at least confirm that not all admitted students join the Facebook group--I wasn't even aware that there was a Facebook group until I saw the most recent post about it. Facebook groups are likely only a reliable indicator of admits when it's run by an admissions office that makes an active effort to reach out and invite the admits, I think (which CLS clearly does not do).

+1. I wasn't aware there was a group, either...


The Facebook page was created by students. The Admissions office has nothing to do with it.

That said, please do join if you got accepted. It's a good place to run questions by any of the other admits among other things.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bl1234 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:01 pm

Just got the hold email from Columbia (168 LSAT 3.94 GPA). I need to submit an update to my application; does anyone know where to email that?

Thanks!

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bincognito » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:08 pm

Basically an automatic ding, should I send in a LOCI? Would it help keep me from auto-reject? Or is it too late to add info to an application?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 2012Split177 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:58 pm

In yesterday by mail, after a decent wait having sent in mid-November, complete early December.

Big splitter here - good luck everyone - there's totally hope. With my 3.3 I can't imagine I'd have gotten in during a year with more applicants. Floors are a bit lower this year, though I still imagine Harvard is something of a stretch for a guy like me.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Audeamus » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:28 pm

2012Split177 wrote:In yesterday by mail, after a decent wait having sent in mid-November, complete early December.

Big splitter here - good luck everyone - there's totally hope. With my 3.3 I can't imagine I'd have gotten in during a year with more applicants. Floors are a bit lower this year, though I still imagine Harvard is something of a stretch for a guy like me.


Congrats!! postmark date?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:30 pm

bincognito wrote:Basically an automatic ding, should I send in a LOCI? Would it help keep me from auto-reject? Or is it too late to add info to an application?

Were you waitlisted? Or did you submit in August?

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BSC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:45 pm

FYI, I'm held and they told me not to send in additional LORs

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BSC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:54 pm

Also, any reverse splitters getting lucky with Columbia?? Seems like they're taking splitters so long as they have above median GPA, and they don't really care for their GPA median. I was held with a 171/3.9 - solid numbers, but below median LSAT. I was hoping my GPA would do it, but nope.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby spyke123 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:57 pm

BSC wrote:Also, any reverse splitters getting lucky with Columbia?? Seems like they're taking splitters so long as they have above median GPA, and they don't really care for their GPA median. I was held with a 171/3.9 - solid numbers, but below median LSAT. I was hoping my GPA would do it, but nope.


a couple of people with ur numbers have gotten in FYI

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby TripTrip » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:59 pm

BSC wrote:Also, any reverse splitters getting lucky with Columbia?? Seems like they're taking splitters so long as they have above median GPA, and they don't really care for their GPA median. I was held with a 171/3.9 - solid numbers, but below median LSAT. I was hoping my GPA would do it, but nope.

Splitters don't have above-median GPA.

The reason splitters fare better than reverse-splitters (like yourself) is because there's a near infinite number of reverse-splitters but fewer regular splitters to choose from.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BSC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:29 pm

TripTrip wrote:
BSC wrote:Also, any reverse splitters getting lucky with Columbia?? Seems like they're taking splitters so long as they have above median GPA, and they don't really care for their GPA median. I was held with a 171/3.9 - solid numbers, but below median LSAT. I was hoping my GPA would do it, but nope.

Splitters don't have above-median GPA.

The reason splitters fare better than reverse-splitters (like yourself) is because there's a near infinite number of reverse-splitters but fewer regular splitters to choose from.


Yea I meant LSAT.

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Re: Columbia c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby BSC » Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:31 pm

spyke123 wrote:
BSC wrote:Also, any reverse splitters getting lucky with Columbia?? Seems like they're taking splitters so long as they have above median GPA, and they don't really care for their GPA median. I was held with a 171/3.9 - solid numbers, but below median LSAT. I was hoping my GPA would do it, but nope.


a couple of people with ur numbers have gotten in FYI


yea I saw that last year, most people who got in with my numbers were ivy or other top undergraduates. Unlucky me.




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