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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby risa » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:33 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:If so, Berkeley and Michigan are the only public universities within the T14, so perhaps it wouldn't have that large of an effect among America's most prestigious law schools.

Isn't Virginia public?

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby broadstreet11 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:37 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:Would Fisher v. Texas affect private schools as well? I haven't really read about it a whole lot, but I thought it was just threatening affirmative action at public institutions. If so, Berkeley and Michigan are the only public universities within the T14, so perhaps it wouldn't have that large of an effect among America's most prestigious law schools.


If the court strikes AA down (which this court probably will) I'm pretty sure it would affect any institution that receives federal funding (both public and private). So federal loans, pell grants, research grants etc. couldn't be used at a school that employs AA. It's similar to how the civil rights act was implemented in the first place. I could be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Rahviveh » Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
vzapana wrote:
michlaw wrote:I don't understand Chicago. Why interview when your matriculation rate is only 25%. They make approximately 800 offers so if they oversample by the same amount as Harvard say 50 percent, they are doing 1200 interviews to get a class of 200. And they are starting so late that they have no comparative advantage either to entice those already in at HYSC or those who will accepted to those schools at the same time Chicago gets around to it. Also schools like VBPM have been using earlier notice and dollars to secure their class. Odd approach by Chicago IMO.

unless interviews become standard practice across all the major schools. such a thing happening is not impossible, and if fisher does upend affirmative action, interviews could be a way to mitigate the blow to school diversity.

Would Fisher v. Texas affect private schools as well? I haven't really read about it a whole lot, but I thought it was just threatening affirmative action at public institutions. If so, Berkeley and Michigan are the only public universities within the T14, so perhaps it wouldn't have that large of an effect among America's most prestigious law schools.

Either way, I too am kind of wondering what Chicago is thinking right now... based on data taken from LSN, they have the 2nd lowest ratio of admits right now among the T14 despite having the 5th lowest number of applicants and having to battle from students who would otherwise go to HYSC:

School: % Admitted (# Admitted / # Applied)
Stanford: 0% (0/253)
Chicago: 1% (4/326)
Yale: 2% (2/95)
Columbia: 3% (10/356)
Northwestern: 7% (17/248)
Penn: 13% (46/354)
Harvard: 18% (58/316)
Virginia: 20% (93/454)
Berkeley: 22% (81/369)
Michigan: 33% (130/400)
Cornell: 34% (122/356)
Duke: 42% (168/404)
NYU: 43% (151/353)
Georgetown: 49% (220/445)

I don't know how meaningful this is since chi hasn't started making RD decisions yet. Actually I don't think any of the top 5 on that list have except NW and they only released a small batch so far.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:10 am

kappycaft1 wrote:
vzapana wrote:
michlaw wrote:I don't understand Chicago. Why interview when your matriculation rate is only 25%. They make approximately 800 offers so if they oversample by the same amount as Harvard say 50 percent, they are doing 1200 interviews to get a class of 200. And they are starting so late that they have no comparative advantage either to entice those already in at HYSC or those who will accepted to those schools at the same time Chicago gets around to it. Also schools like VBPM have been using earlier notice and dollars to secure their class. Odd approach by Chicago IMO.

unless interviews become standard practice across all the major schools. such a thing happening is not impossible, and if fisher does upend affirmative action, interviews could be a way to mitigate the blow to school diversity.

Would Fisher v. Texas affect private schools as well? I haven't really read about it a whole lot, but I thought it was just threatening affirmative action at public institutions. If so, Berkeley and Michigan are the only public universities within the T14, so perhaps it wouldn't have that large of an effect among America's most prestigious law schools.

Either way, I too am kind of wondering what Chicago is thinking right now... based on data taken from LSN, they have the 2nd lowest ratio of admits right now among the T14 despite having the 5th lowest number of applicants and having to battle from students who would otherwise go to HYSC:

School: % Admitted (# Admitted / # Applied)
Stanford: 0% (0/253)
Chicago: 1% (4/326)
Yale: 2% (2/95)
Columbia: 3% (10/356)
Northwestern: 7% (17/248)
Penn: 13% (46/354)
Harvard: 18% (58/316)
Virginia: 20% (93/454)
Berkeley: 22% (81/369)
Michigan: 33% (130/400)
Cornell: 34% (122/356)
Duke: 42% (168/404)
NYU: 43% (151/353)
Georgetown: 49% (220/445)


aren't there like 100 people or something in the Harvard c/o 2016 facebook group though? not entirely accurate if we're just basing it off LSN. maybe a combo of FB and LSN would be best for numbers now.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby pedestrian » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:16 am

twinkletoes16 wrote:
aren't there like 100 people or something in the Harvard c/o 2016 facebook group though? not entirely accurate if we're just basing it off LSN. maybe a combo of FB and LSN would be best for numbers now.


No, that doesn't work at all. For one thing, there could be overlap between the two samples, resulting in double counting. For another, we don't have a facebook group for everyone who has applied but has not yet been accepted - you can't just tack a new numerator onto the old denominator.

LSN may not be a perfectly representative sample of the applicant population, but it is more representative than a facebook page full of admitted students. Also, if we compare schools on LSN it is an apples-to-apples comparison, because the applicant pools are likely to be skewed in the same ways across all the top schools. That is less likely to be true for facebook pages.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bailey8078 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:27 am

So....decisions Friday?

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby 2014 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:53 am

kappycaft1 wrote:
pedestrian wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:
aren't there like 100 people or something in the Harvard c/o 2016 facebook group though? not entirely accurate if we're just basing it off LSN. maybe a combo of FB and LSN would be best for numbers now.


No, that doesn't work at all. For one thing, there could be overlap between the two samples, resulting in double counting. For another, we don't have a facebook group for everyone who has applied but has not yet been accepted - you can't just tack a new numerator onto the old denominator.

LSN may not be a perfectly representative sample of the applicant population, but it is more representative than a facebook page full of admitted students. Also, if we compare schools on LSN it is an apples-to-apples comparison, because the applicant pools are likely to be skewed in the same ways across all the top schools. That is less likely to be true for facebook pages.

+1

I don't use FB so even if a Chicago c/o 2016 group is created, I won't show up on there. :wink:

You will probably want to reconsider this going forward. It is a huge way that the class communicates, so even if you have one just to lurk the FB group without participating, that is how you will find out about a ton of shit happening.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Anonymous4444 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:16 am

bailey8078 wrote:So....decisions Friday?


I'd say a week from today: monday

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby DaRascal » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:29 pm

First UR today. Yay. :P

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Postby jbagelboy » Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:58 pm

DaRascal wrote:First UR today. Yay. :P


Cool, cool. I'm still but Complete 11/20 but motion is excellent. I assume we will all go through UR before a decision is made as per usual?

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby jbagelboy » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:00 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:I don't know how meaningful this is since chi hasn't started making RD decisions yet. Actually I don't think any of the top 5 on that list have except NW and they only released a small batch so far.

Rank - School: % Admitted (# Admitted / # Applied)
#01 - Yale: 2% (2/95)
#02 - Stanford: 0% (0/253)
#03 - Harvard: 18% (58/316)
#04 - Columbia: 3% (10/356)

#05 - Chicago: 1% (4/326)
#06 - NYU: 43% (151/353)
#07 - Penn: 13% (46/354)

#07 - Berkeley: 22% (81/369)
#07 - Virginia: 20% (93/454)
#10 - Michigan: 33% (130/400)
#11 - Duke: 42% (168/404)

#12 - Northwestern: 7% (17/248)
#13 - Georgetown: 49% (220/445)
#14 - Cornell: 34% (122/356)
[quote="kappycaft1"]

This list includes ED decisions, right? No RD for Columbia or Chicago, I believed

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby RBen148 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:07 pm

How does Chicago notify people of acceptances? It's by phone, right?

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby amsong » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:08 pm

DaRascal wrote:First UR today. Yay. :P


Me too. At last!

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Rahviveh » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:09 pm

RBen148 wrote:How does Chicago notify people of acceptances? It's by phone, right?


Phone calls go out during the day. WL/Rejection emails go out at the end of the day

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby Rahviveh » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:20 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
ChampagnePapi wrote:
RBen148 wrote:How does Chicago notify people of acceptances? It's by phone, right?


Phone calls go out during the day. WL/Rejection emails go out at the end of the day

Will they notify RD applicants by phone? I thought all of us who had ED'ed got in via email... Do they know that we are going on matter what so they don't give us any personalized luv? :(


True, they switched it up this year. Last year both ED and RD applicants got phone calls.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby lsacqueen » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:04 pm

I had my interview - if anyone has any questions feel free to pm me :)

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby wisteria » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:44 pm

amsong wrote:
DaRascal wrote:First UR today. Yay. :P


Me too. At last!


When did you go complete? I'm stuck at complete 12/5. Sigh.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby bluecouch » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:52 pm

wisteria wrote:
amsong wrote:
DaRascal wrote:First UR today. Yay. :P


Me too. At last!


When did you go complete? I'm stuck at complete 12/5. Sigh.


Me too. Stuck at 12/6.

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Re: Chicago c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013)

Postby moneyball026 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:58 pm

lsacqueen wrote:I had my interview - if anyone has any questions feel free to pm me :)


+1 - happy to help.

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