Big Dog wrote:hahahaha.trust me nyu's dead poor
NYU is in the top ~25 for endowments.
in total? sure. on a per-student basis?
Big Dog wrote:hahahaha.trust me nyu's dead poor
NYU is in the top ~25 for endowments.
naw. i dont think any held EDers have heard back yet. But im not too concerned about it because historically i think everybody just gets WLed eventually.spyke123 wrote:crowing,
If I remember correctly, you ED to penn but was held right? Have they gotten back to you?
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dang that sucks. would you pick nyu or penn over chicago though?Crowing wrote:naw. i dont think any held EDers have heard back yet. But im not too concerned about it because historically i think everybody just gets WLed eventually.spyke123 wrote:crowing,
If I remember correctly, you ED to penn but was held right? Have they gotten back to you?
I agree.. my cycle so far hasnt been great...longlivetheking wrote:is it me, or do i feel like instead of loosening admission standards, schools are tightening up.
banjo wrote:Penn's USNWR score is 87. NYU is 92. There is no way NYU will fall to #7 this year.
There is also no way NYU will cut class sizes. The university is ~3 billion in debt and planning a controversial expansion into more of GW. They have exotic international campuses to support. They have to continue recruiting potential faculty with multi-million dollar condos. This is a university that held its graduation ceremony at Yankee stadium one year...
Chicago might manage to tie CLS this year, which is probably still a disappointment for the law school, considering how many rubies have been given out.
Didn't think they were that deep in debt. But FWIW, plenty of the kids at Tisch and such come from rich families, more so than at UPenn or Michigan. But I guess that's sort of but not entirely irrelevant.longlivetheking wrote:banjo wrote:Penn's USNWR score is 87. NYU is 92. There is no way NYU will fall to #7 this year.
There is also no way NYU will cut class sizes. The university is ~3 billion in debt and planning a controversial expansion into more of GW. They have exotic international campuses to support. They have to continue recruiting potential faculty with multi-million dollar condos. This is a university that held its graduation ceremony at Yankee stadium one year...
Chicago might manage to tie CLS this year, which is probably still a disappointment for the law school, considering how many rubies have been given out.
THIS.
but why isn't nyu loosening admission standards? they haven't taken almost any splitters and those they have taken are EDs and even in EDs they have rejected some 172+ splitters (gpa 3.4) are they waiting for the waitlist clusterfuck?
but i definitely agree that nyu won't be cutting class size. would be a massive if they did.
with this being the last year of rubies i wouldn't be surprised to see NYU take over #5 soon anyway; i don't see any reason for them to push it this year while rubies are still being handed outlonglivetheking wrote:they could overtake chicago. but at the cost of losing revenue? the upside of being #5 is incredibly small while the downside of being #7 is huge. i think they would definitely maintain that 171 and stay there. 450 is way too big to start getting the median up to 172/173 in this down cycle
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Crowing wrote:with this being the last year of rubies i wouldn't be surprised to see NYU take over #5 soon anyway; i don't see any reason for them to push it this year while rubies are still being handed outlonglivetheking wrote:they could overtake chicago. but at the cost of losing revenue? the upside of being #5 is incredibly small while the downside of being #7 is huge. i think they would definitely maintain that 171 and stay there. 450 is way too big to start getting the median up to 172/173 in this down cycle
I think this is the most recent score data we have:LRGhost wrote:I don't think they dip to seventh, but again, why couldn't they overtake Chi since they've been ranked higher before?
Chicago had much lower gpa stats before rubies starting rolling out. Now their median is so high but they still probably can't get most 3.9+/171+ who are HYS-bound so what they seem to be doing is just loading up on both traditional and reverse splitters who can't get HYS (people with numbers like 4.0/167 or 3.5/174) and then throwing the rubies at people with the HYS-worthy stats.longlivetheking wrote:Crowing wrote:with this being the last year of rubies i wouldn't be surprised to see NYU take over #5 soon anyway; i don't see any reason for them to push it this year while rubies are still being handed outlonglivetheking wrote:they could overtake chicago. but at the cost of losing revenue? the upside of being #5 is incredibly small while the downside of being #7 is huge. i think they would definitely maintain that 171 and stay there. 450 is way too big to start getting the median up to 172/173 in this down cycle
is this a sign that chicago admission standards would start to come down? or they have a backup-ruby waiting.
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LOL'ed at the employment stats column.banjo wrote:I think this is the most recent score data we have:LRGhost wrote:I don't think they dip to seventh, but again, why couldn't they overtake Chi since they've been ranked higher before?
It looks like NYU is behind on peer and lawyer/judge scores, has a higher acceptance rate, and probably has lower expenditures/student (esp considering Chicago's Ruby program and smaller and smaller class sizes). It has a much lower GPA median and probably the same LSAT median (we'll find out soon enough I guess).
IIRC, Chicago was previously sixth due to some strange accounting practices that underestimated expenditures/student. Leiter might be the only source for this though. NYU even topped CLS one year, allegedly due to an outlier year for CLS in bar passage rates. The USNWR rankings are silly.
Why wouldn't they just put up another scholarship program? And IIRC, the only change to methodology is in how employment is factored into the score and we don't really know how they're going to judge it.Crowing wrote:rubies and methodology
rubies aren't from chicago's endowment so there's no guarantee of that continuing in some form or anotherLRGhost wrote:Why wouldn't they just put up another scholarship program? And IIRC, the only change to methodology is in how employment is factored into the score and we don't really know how they're going to judge it.Crowing wrote:rubies and methodology
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Yeah, top law schools have wealthy grads, but not many who go on to found large private equity firms. Though, to be fair, David Rubenstein might be able to do another 10 by now.longlivetheking wrote:it isn't everyday u find a donor dropping off 10 mil on your adcom desk.
nope. just checked im still at 12/12digifly wrote:Updated yesterday after almost 3 months, and now I update again to today's date. Is NYU doing daily updates like Michigan now?
I am 99% confident youll go DLS soon. congrats!digifly wrote:Updated yesterday after almost 3 months, and now I update again to today's date. Is NYU doing daily updates like Michigan now?
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