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toothbrush
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by toothbrush » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:02 pm
hohenheim wrote:
Look in the OP and you'll see a big yellow spike at the beginning of April.
yes, yes, i guess i should have said.. why does NYU send out rejections before WL it doesn't make sense. random rejects although they're sitting on a huge pile of apps.
silly me for trying to make sense of a sometimes senseless process
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LRGhost
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by LRGhost » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:23 pm
There was significant WL movement last year. Hopefully it carries through this year.
Please NYU, please
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longlivetheking
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by longlivetheking » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:18 pm
jvincent11 wrote:uconjak wrote:jvincent11 wrote:Dinged today. Thought I would be wait listed. 168 3.9+ Good luck to everyone waiting
HOLLY CRAP batman, your numbers are better than mine, I haven't got rejected yet. I figured i was a almost auto reject. I have the feeling a reject be a coming.
You never know. I've heard law school admissions are kind of a crap shoot. I'm from the NY/NJ area and I applied late so I imagine both of those things hurt me in addition to below median LSAT
if law school admissions are a crap shoot, this entire forum should immediately close down. period.
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jbagelboy
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by jbagelboy » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:22 pm
longlivetheking wrote:jvincent11 wrote:uconjak wrote:jvincent11 wrote:Dinged today. Thought I would be wait listed. 168 3.9+ Good luck to everyone waiting
HOLLY CRAP batman, your numbers are better than mine, I haven't got rejected yet. I figured i was a almost auto reject. I have the feeling a reject be a coming.
You never know. I've heard law school admissions are kind of a crap shoot. I'm from the NY/NJ area and I applied late so I imagine both of those things hurt me in addition to below median LSAT
if law school admissions are a crap shoot, this entire forum should immediately close down. period.
only a crapshoot in the sense that for the top 10 schools, no admission result (*acceptance) can be predicted with 100% accuracy. LSN/TLS are useful for establishing some high percentage confidence interval
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uconjak
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by uconjak » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:44 pm
You never know. I've heard law school admissions are kind of a crap shoot. I'm from the NY/NJ area and I applied late so I imagine both of those things hurt me in addition to below median LSAT[/quote]
if law school admissions are a crap shoot, this entire forum should immediately close down. period.[/quote]
only a crapshoot in the sense that for the top 10 schools, no admission result (*acceptance) can be predicted with 100% accuracy. LSN/TLS are useful for establishing some high percentage confidence interval[/quote]
Heck i had a prof who told me got in to Yale, and didnt know why he got accepted. He had good scores and good grades, but?
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longlivetheking
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by longlivetheking » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:04 pm
only a crapshoot in the sense that for the top 10 schools, no admission result (*acceptance) can be predicted with 100% accuracy. LSN/TLS are useful for establishing some high percentage confidence interval
high percentage confidence interval = non-crapshoot
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by jvincent11 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:19 am
longlivetheking wrote:jvincent11 wrote:uconjak wrote:jvincent11 wrote:Dinged today. Thought I would be wait listed. 168 3.9+ Good luck to everyone waiting
HOLLY CRAP batman, your numbers are better than mine, I haven't got rejected yet. I figured i was a almost auto reject. I have the feeling a reject be a coming.
You never know. I've heard law school admissions are kind of a crap shoot. I'm from the NY/NJ area and I applied late so I imagine both of those things hurt me in addition to below median LSAT
if law school admissions are a crap shoot, this entire forum should immediately close down. period.
crap shoot in the sense that there may be no reasonable explanation for an acceptance/rejection, substantial scholarship, or lack thereof. You stating the obvious by pointing out there is a good amount of predictability in admission decisions, but people with identical numbers don't always experience the same admission outcomes, which is sometimes hard to explain.
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TripTrip
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by TripTrip » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:27 am
jvincent11 wrote:crap shoot in the sense that there may be no reasonable explanation for an acceptance/rejection, substantial scholarship, or lack thereof. You stating the obvious by pointing out there is a good amount of predictability in admission decisions, but people with identical numbers don't always experience the same admission outcomes, which is sometimes hard to explain.
That fact that it is hard for
us to explain does not mean than it's inexplicable.
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by jvincent11 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:52 am
TripTrip wrote:jvincent11 wrote:crap shoot in the sense that there may be no reasonable explanation for an acceptance/rejection, substantial scholarship, or lack thereof. You stating the obvious by pointing out there is a good amount of predictability in admission decisions, but people with identical numbers don't always experience the same admission outcomes, which is sometimes hard to explain.
That fact that it is hard for
us to explain does not mean than it's inexplicable.
Right, but ostensibly there is no explanation
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Big Dog
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by Big Dog » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:58 am
crap shoot in the sense that there may be no reasonable explanation for an acceptance/rejection, substantial scholarship, or lack thereof.
I've been following TLS for awhile, and have found less than a handful of apps where the explanation was not obvious. Part of the "explanation," IMO, is that despite TLS wisdom to the contrary, softs (and undergrad college/record) does matter, particularly at the smaller schools. (At least they matter a lot more than the denizens on TLS are willing to accept. The fact is that academics, by their nature, are prestige whores.)
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by dnptan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:14 am
Anecdotal evidence:
Sent: Feb 15,
Complete: Feb 26
Offer: March 6
Total turn-around time: 19 days.
My stats are 170/3.81; nothing really spectacular. Only explanation for quick admission despite late submission are my softs, or just a crap-shoot
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Big Dog
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by Big Dog » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:30 am
^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
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by dnptan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:41 am
Big Dog wrote:^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median. Doesn't conventional wisdom show that splitters are usually taken last, after all the "good" candidates are in?
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BigZuck
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by BigZuck » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:47 am
dnptan wrote:Big Dog wrote:^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median. Doesn't conventional wisdom show that splitters are usually taken last, after all the "good" candidates are in?
When this cycle is all wrapped up I bet you'll be right at their LSAT median.
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by cwid1391 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:48 am
dnptan wrote:Big Dog wrote:^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median. Doesn't conventional wisdom show that splitters are usually taken last, after all the "good" candidates are in?
You're not really a splitter in the sense that you're mentioning. Yes, technically you are above/below, but a splitter would be a 172/3.3, or a reverse splitter 164/4.0. You're just a normal applicant who happens to be around the medians.
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dnptan
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by dnptan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:02 am
Hmm that's interesting. Still, 9 days to reach a decision (including the weekend) - isn't that weird?
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by 02889 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:02 am
BigZuck wrote:dnptan wrote:Big Dog wrote:^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median. Doesn't conventional wisdom show that splitters are usually taken last, after all the "good" candidates are in?
When this cycle is all wrapped up I bet you'll be right at their LSAT median.
I do wonder about that. CLS was able to hold firm at 172 last year while NYU went from 172 to 171. You think NYU will allow its median to fall again, rather than holding it steady (while perhaps slightly cutting class size)? Also, if NYU has 170/3.7 as its c/o 2016 median and Penn and UVA are able to keep their traditional 170/3.85 split, that could be terrible for NYU. I think they'll try really, really hard to keep that from happening.
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dnptan
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by dnptan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:05 am
Stanford's median is 170 and they're doing fine.
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BigZuck
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by BigZuck » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:06 am
02889 wrote:BigZuck wrote:dnptan wrote:Big Dog wrote:^NYU jumped at your (near 75th %) GPA, and your LSAT allows them to hold their median (which may be dropping to a 171). For a large school, above median numbers are critical.
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median. Doesn't conventional wisdom show that splitters are usually taken last, after all the "good" candidates are in?
When this cycle is all wrapped up I bet you'll be right at their LSAT median.
I do wonder about that. CLS was able to hold firm at 172 last year while NYU went from 172 to 171. You think NYU will allow its median to fall again, rather than holding it steady (while perhaps slightly cutting class size)? Also, if NYU has 170/3.7 as its c/o 2016 median and Penn and UVA are able to keep their traditional 170/3.85 split, that could be terrible for NYU. I think they'll try really, really hard to keep that from happening.
Yeah you're probably right. For some reason I didn't think they dropped medians last year. But for the record I doubt UVA and Penn will keep a 170. Maybe UVA if their scholarship tactics work. But I fully expect every school to drop an LSAT point this year if they didn't already last year. I also expect Georgetown to drop one point again, maybe even two. The high LSATs just aren't there in the applicant pool like they used to be. Sky high LSAT medians are going to start coming back to earth.
All just my opinion, of course.
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by LRGhost » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:10 am
02889 wrote:
I do wonder about that. CLS was able to hold firm at 172 last year while NYU went from 172 to 171. You think NYU will allow its median to fall again, rather than holding it steady (while perhaps slightly cutting class size)? Also, if NYU has 170/3.7 as its c/o 2016 median and Penn and UVA are able to keep their traditional 170/3.85 split, that could be terrible for NYU. I think they'll try really, really hard to keep that from happening.
CLS cut their class significantly last year. I hope NYU doesn't this year
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by 02889 » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:29 am
LRGhost wrote:02889 wrote:
I do wonder about that. CLS was able to hold firm at 172 last year while NYU went from 172 to 171. You think NYU will allow its median to fall again, rather than holding it steady (while perhaps slightly cutting class size)? Also, if NYU has 170/3.7 as its c/o 2016 median and Penn and UVA are able to keep their traditional 170/3.85 split, that could be terrible for NYU. I think they'll try really, really hard to keep that from happening.
CLS cut their class significantly last year. I hope NYU doesn't this year
I hope it's a beautiful combination of everyone on TLS getting in, but also cutting class size, so we have a slightly easier time getting jobs in a couple years.
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longlivetheking
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by longlivetheking » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:14 pm
everyone should brace themselves for cuts across the board in class sizes and expect schools to fill out those spots via transfer. nyu is prime suspect for doing shit like this.
i really can't see nyu's median dropping. but on this board they have taken very very few splitters save those lsats who are 174+ or applied ED. i have a sickening feeling that they're confident that reduced class sizes are going to allow them to hold on to that 171 and not take a ton of splitters.
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by Big Dog » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:36 pm
But I'm a splitter - I'm below the LSAT median.
Not necessarily, this year. They could be trying to hold a 171 median....if so, you are at/above the medians. Win-win.
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by FlowBro » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:44 pm
Been UR1 since early January close/at/above both medians (haha trying to preserve some anonymity). Based of mylsn my chances are over 90%, anyone know why I haven't heard yet?
Maybe its because I have multiple LSAT's?
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by dnptan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:44 pm
Big Dog wrote:
Not necessarily, this year. They could be trying to hold a 171 median....if so, you are at/above the medians. Win-win.
170 is still below 171.
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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