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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:22 am
by JohnMarshall17
Dookie39 wrote:
wisteria wrote:
Dookie39 wrote:Just got in via e-mail!!
176/3.83, honestly thought Berkeley was a stretch and hadn't paid much attention, but now I'm definitely interested and can't wait to visit. Went under review on 12/5.
Congratulations~~~ At what time was the email sent?
Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.
I'll trade my NYU acceptance for your Berkeley acceptance any day.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:58 am
by shntn
JohnMarshall17 wrote:
Dookie39 wrote:
wisteria wrote:
Dookie39 wrote:Just got in via e-mail!!
176/3.83, honestly thought Berkeley was a stretch and hadn't paid much attention, but now I'm definitely interested and can't wait to visit. Went under review on 12/5.
Congratulations~~~ At what time was the email sent?
Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.
I'll trade my NYU acceptance for your Berkeley acceptance any day.
OH GOD CAN WE PLEASE START A MARKET FOR THIS

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:01 pm
by JohnMarshall17
shntn wrote: OH GOD CAN WE PLEASE START A MARKET FOR THIS
That would be amazing. Create an ebay style marketplace where people bid for your acceptance with their offers.

Example:
Listing: Harvard, Sticker
Bids: UVA, Full Ride (Reserve not met)
U Chicago, 20k/yr (Reserve not met)
Columbia, 15k/yr (Offer stands)
Stanford, Sticker (SOLD!)

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:07 pm
by shntn
JohnMarshall17 wrote:
shntn wrote: OH GOD CAN WE PLEASE START A MARKET FOR THIS
That would be amazing. Create an ebay style marketplace where people bid for your acceptance with their offers.

Example:
Listing: Harvard, Sticker
Bids: UVA, Full Ride (Reserve not met)
U Chicago, 20k/yr (Reserve not met)
Columbia, 15k/yr (Offer stands)
Stanford, Sticker (SOLD!)
I'll take the Harvard, please. I can throw in NYU, an iPad, and the firstborn of my children, just to sweeten the pot a bit.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:13 pm
by teiswei
shntn wrote:I'll take the Harvard, please. I can throw in NYU, an iPad, and the firstborn of my children, just to sweeten the pot a bit.
You cray!

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:13 pm
by ashockofpink
JohnMarshall17 wrote:
shntn wrote: OH GOD CAN WE PLEASE START A MARKET FOR THIS
That would be amazing. Create an ebay style marketplace where people bid for your acceptance with their offers.

Example:
Listing: Harvard, Sticker
Bids: UVA, Full Ride (Reserve not met)
U Chicago, 20k/yr (Reserve not met)
Columbia, 15k/yr (Offer stands)
Stanford, Sticker (SOLD!)
Yes. This. Genius.

On an unrelated note, I've been "Under review" since fricking 11/21. Should I just quit dreaming and accept this as a polite rejection?

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:19 pm
by shntn
teiswei wrote:
shntn wrote:I'll take the Harvard, please. I can throw in NYU, an iPad, and the firstborn of my children, just to sweeten the pot a bit.
You cray!
Fine, play hardball. I'll keep my iPad, thanks.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:21 pm
by djwjddl
ashockofpink wrote:
On an unrelated note, I've been "Under review" since fricking 11/21. Should I just quit dreaming and accept this as a polite rejection?
too early in the cycle to tell, although admittedly, your chances are getting slimmer by the week given Regulus's post regarding LSN admittances thus far. i'd probably give it until the end of january (for all T-14 law schools actually sans HYS) before you start getting worried. Even if you go under committee review, you should be getting an email within the next month or so.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:22 pm
by teiswei
shntn wrote:
teiswei wrote:
shntn wrote:I'll take the Harvard, please. I can throw in NYU, an iPad, and the firstborn of my children, just to sweeten the pot a bit.
You cray!
Fine, play hardball. I'll keep my iPad, thanks.
No, no... You cray because I will give you a Harvard/Yale for a Stanford (this is clearly mythical for 99.99999999% of us)

Edit: And I will take a 3rd Gen iPad... Thanks!

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:24 pm
by ashockofpink
djwjddl wrote:
ashockofpink wrote:
On an unrelated note, I've been "Under review" since fricking 11/21. Should I just quit dreaming and accept this as a polite rejection?
too early in the cycle to tell, although admittedly, your chances are getting slimmer by the week given Regulus's post regarding LSN admittances thus far. i'd probably give it until the end of january (for all T-14 law schools actually sans HYS) before you start getting worried. Even if you go under committee review, you should be getting an email within the next month or so.
Thanks. I was in the midst of freak-out mode, but now I shall calm down!...


....for now.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:35 pm
by viksn1
I've been under review since 10/24. This is painful.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:36 pm
by gingerbreadsmouse
viksn1 wrote:I've been under review since 10/24. This is painful.
I, since 10/25. Not even thinking about it much anymore... rrrr

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:42 pm
by Rahviveh
Dookie39 wrote:
wisteria wrote:
Dookie39 wrote:Just got in via e-mail!!
176/3.83, honestly thought Berkeley was a stretch and hadn't paid much attention, but now I'm definitely interested and can't wait to visit. Went under review on 12/5.
Congratulations~~~ At what time was the email sent?
Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.
What is the bolded based on?

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:47 pm
by jwthurman
164/176 3.85 UR 11/21

The wait continues.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:08 pm
by Dookie39
Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.[/quote]
What is the bolded based on?[/quote]

Berkeley has the highest ranked ip program in the country, which music/entertainment biz law is a subset of. I forgot where I read this, but Berkeley places incredibly well in intellectual property jobs, especially on the west coast over other schools similarly ranked.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:19 pm
by 99.9luft
Dookie39 wrote:Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.
What is the bolded based on?
Berkeley has the highest ranked ip program in the country, which music/entertainment biz law is a subset of. I forgot where I read this, but Berkeley places incredibly well in intellectual property jobs, especially on the west coast over other schools similarly ranked.[/quote][/quote]

whole-to-part fallacy

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:40 pm
by UMich11
Just went UR today, submitted 1st week of December. Here's to a exciting Q1 next year?

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:46 pm
by joannedarc
Also just recieved an UR email and submitted in early December.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:54 pm
by cheymao
^same.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:07 pm
by Dookie39
99.9luft wrote:
Dookie39 wrote:Thanks, couldn't check my email till the end of the day, but it was sent at 930 am western time. I think I got the admit partly cause I expressed interest in entertainment/music business law which they place really well in. Noticed we have similar numbers on LSN, not gonna lie, pretty jealous of that NYU acceptance. Good luck on your admissions.
What is the bolded based on?
Berkeley has the highest ranked ip program in the country, which music/entertainment biz law is a subset of. I forgot where I read this, but Berkeley places incredibly well in intellectual property jobs, especially on the west coast over other schools similarly ranked.
[/quote]

whole-to-part fallacy[/quote]

True, but it still stands that Berkeley is better for this type of law (entertainment/music) than other similarly ranked schools, like UPenn, UVA, Mich...etc which is what I originally stated. This is especially true for LA, look it up.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:23 pm
by Rahviveh
Dookie39 wrote: True, but it still stands that Berkeley is better for this type of law (entertainment/music) than other similarly ranked schools, like UPenn, UVA, Mich...etc which is what I originally stated. This is especially true for LA, look it up.
This isnt what you said though. You said Berkeley places "really well" in entertainment law. What is your basis for this? Besides your whole-to-part fallacy, program speciality rankings are known to be worthless because they are based on assessments by faculty members not employers.

I agree Berkeley probably does better than east coast schools, just because they have a stronger foothold in LA. But entertainment law seems like such a difficult field to get into I am skeptical that any non-HYS school places "well" there.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:25 pm
by postard
Even UCLA?

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:36 pm
by BigZuck
postard wrote:Even UCLA?
UCLA has a hard enough time getting its grads lawyer jobs, period.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:09 pm
by Dookie39
ChampagnePapi wrote:
Dookie39 wrote: True, but it still stands that Berkeley is better for this type of law (entertainment/music) than other similarly ranked schools, like UPenn, UVA, Mich...etc which is what I originally stated. This is especially true for LA, look it up.
This isnt what you said though. You said Berkeley places "really well" in entertainment law. What is your basis for this? Besides your whole-to-part fallacy, program speciality rankings are known to be worthless because they are based on assessments by faculty members not employers.

I agree Berkeley probably does better than east coast schools, just because they have a stronger foothold in LA. But entertainment law seems like such a difficult field to get into I am skeptical that any non-HYS school places "well" there.
I meant "places well" in a relative way, as in they place well compared to other schools. As far as entertainment law goes, it is a very tough field to get into, and yes HS, along with possibly Columbia, are likely somewhat better, but from what I've heard California schools like Berkeley do better in this field than other similarly ranked schools. I am basing this off of conversations I've had with several prominent attorneys in this field who practice in LA and NY along with some cursory internet research, but maybe they have a skewed outlook on this topic.

I am not arguing that it is easy to get an entertainment law job out of Berkeley, just that it is easier than some of the schools I listed above which are generally seen as peers. This whole argument spun off my attempt to understand why I was admitted, as numbers don't usually do the trick for Berkeley, and of course I could be completely wrong as to why I was admitted.

Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:39 pm
by husker2012
ChampagnePapi wrote:
Dookie39 wrote: True, but it still stands that Berkeley is better for this type of law (entertainment/music) than other similarly ranked schools, like UPenn, UVA, Mich...etc which is what I originally stated. This is especially true for LA, look it up.
This isnt what you said though. You said Berkeley places "really well" in entertainment law. What is your basis for this? Besides your whole-to-part fallacy, program speciality rankings are known to be worthless because they are based on assessments by faculty members not employers.

I agree Berkeley probably does better than east coast schools, just because they have a stronger foothold in LA. But entertainment law seems like such a difficult field to get into I am skeptical that any non-HYS school places "well" there.
CP you seem a little on edge as of late. I'm sending you good vibes for whatever school you are stressing about.