Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby bruwinning24 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:10 pm

I submitted the first day apps could be submitted with a 3.98, 171. I go to a top 25 public, decent extra curriculars, law firm internship, on a dance team, etc...and haven't gotten a decision. Any thoughts? I also wrote a diversity statement.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby 20141023 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:34 pm

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby cslouisck » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:37 pm

This a ridiculous (and probably presumptuous) question, but for those of you who've been admitted via phone call: was it during regular business hours? My office doesn't know I'm applying to law school--and their finding out would be a headache. Just wondering whether I should start wandering away from my cube when I get calls from unknown numbers.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby clouded.memory » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:38 pm

cslouisck wrote:This a ridiculous (and probably presumptuous) question, but for those of you who've been admitted via phone call: was it during regular business hours? My office doesn't know I'm applying to law school--and their finding out would be a headache. Just wondering whether I should start wandering away from my cube when I get calls from unknown numbers.

I received my call while at work during business hours, at around 4:10pm PST.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby JohnMarshall17 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:41 pm

cslouisck wrote:This a ridiculous (and probably presumptuous) question, but for those of you who've been admitted via phone call: was it during regular business hours? My office doesn't know I'm applying to law school--and their finding out would be a headache. Just wondering whether I should start wandering away from my cube when I get calls from unknown numbers.


You can always let the call go and then call back after work. I know I wouldn't want to get a phone call that gets me extraordinarily excited and happy in an environment where that same news is supposed to be a secret.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby 20141023 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:42 pm

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby JohnMarshall17 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:46 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
cslouisck wrote:This a ridiculous (and probably presumptuous) question, but for those of you who've been admitted via phone call: was it during regular business hours? My office doesn't know I'm applying to law school--and their finding out would be a headache. Just wondering whether I should start wandering away from my cube when I get calls from unknown numbers.


Almost every law school that gives sudden acceptance calls will do it during working hours because that is when they are working too. Calling you to tell you you're in is their job, not their after-work hobby. :wink:


Well if you work in the east, then you may be out of work when you get the call given the 3 hour time difference.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby 20141023 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:55 pm

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:27 am

I got my UCLA call while sitting in on/visiting a class at one of their biggest competitors. Awkwaaaaaard.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby venus » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:28 am

cslouisck wrote:This a ridiculous (and probably presumptuous) question, but for those of you who've been admitted via phone call: was it during regular business hours? My office doesn't know I'm applying to law school--and their finding out would be a headache. Just wondering whether I should start wandering away from my cube when I get calls from unknown numbers.

Mine was around 11am, and it wasn't a hidden number. Area code 510.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby helix23 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:42 am

Mine was at 9am but everyone at work knows I'm dipping

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:45 am

helix23 wrote:Mine was at 9am but everyone at work knows I'm dipping



Everyone at work knows I'm peacin' out except my managers.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby helix23 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:33 am

twinkletoes16 wrote:
helix23 wrote:Mine was at 9am but everyone at work knows I'm dipping



Everyone at work knows I'm peacin' out except my managers.


hopefully it doesn't spread by word of mouth and make things awkward

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby CO2016YEAH » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:35 am

helix23 wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:
helix23 wrote:Mine was at 9am but everyone at work knows I'm dipping



Everyone at work knows I'm peacin' out except my managers.


hopefully it doesn't spread by word of mouth and make things awkward


In my experience, this is inevitable.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby cslouisck » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:55 am

Thanks all. Pretty much what I figured but appreciate the insight. My immediate supervisor and a couple close friends know, but the place is like a family, and, well, you never take sides against the family.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby 20141023 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:57 am

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby WhiteyCakes » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:39 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Here are the current LSN numbers for Berkeley as of the morning of December 5th, 2012:

Total Applicant Pool: (250 Applicants)
Mean LSAT: 168
25th Percentile LSAT: 165
50th Percentile LSAT: 168
75th Percentile LSAT: 171
Mean GPA: 3.71
25th Percentile GPA: 3.60
50th Percentile GPA: 3.75
75th Percentile GPA: 3.90

Accepted Applicants: (38 Admits)
Mean LSAT: 171
25th Percentile LSAT: 168
50th Percentile LSAT: 171
75th Percentile LSAT: 174
Mean GPA: 3.86
25th Percentile GPA: 3.75
50th Percentile GPA: 3.90
75th Percentile GPA: 3.96

With 38 of the total 250 Berkeley applicants on LSN having been accepted, this means that 15.2% of them have been accepted.

*Of the 250 total applicants, 3 had no LSAT score or GPA; 9 had an LSAT score but no GPA; and 3 had a GPA but no LSAT score.


Great PSA....now i know that my GPA is what's holding me back. Shouldn't surprise me knowing Berk

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:53 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Here are the current LSN numbers for Berkeley as of the morning of December 5th, 2012:

Total Applicant Pool: (250 Applicants)
Mean LSAT: 168
25th Percentile LSAT: 165
50th Percentile LSAT: 168
75th Percentile LSAT: 171
Mean GPA: 3.71
25th Percentile GPA: 3.60
50th Percentile GPA: 3.75
75th Percentile GPA: 3.90

Accepted Applicants: (38 Admits)
Mean LSAT: 171
25th Percentile LSAT: 168
50th Percentile LSAT: 171
75th Percentile LSAT: 174
Mean GPA: 3.86
25th Percentile GPA: 3.75
50th Percentile GPA: 3.90
75th Percentile GPA: 3.96

With 38 of the total 250 Berkeley applicants on LSN having been accepted, this means that 15.2% of them have been accepted.

*Of the 250 total applicants, 3 had no LSAT score or GPA; 9 had an LSAT score but no GPA; and 3 had a GPA but no LSAT score.



Thanks for this!

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:54 am

CO2016YEAH wrote:
helix23 wrote:
twinkletoes16 wrote:
helix23 wrote:Mine was at 9am but everyone at work knows I'm dipping



Everyone at work knows I'm peacin' out except my managers.


hopefully it doesn't spread by word of mouth and make things awkward


In my experience, this is inevitable.


Well I guess out of the 300+, 20ish of my friends know, and 5 of those would blab to other coworkers. Managers hardly come around anyway, and there's so many of them they can't keep us straight. And I'm hourly, and as of now, the managers like me. Oh, work...how I dislike you so.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby bobr » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:01 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Here are the current LSN numbers for Berkeley as of the morning of December 5th, 2012:

Total Applicant Pool: (250 Applicants)
Mean LSAT: 168
25th Percentile LSAT: 165
50th Percentile LSAT: 168
75th Percentile LSAT: 171
Mean GPA: 3.71
25th Percentile GPA: 3.60
50th Percentile GPA: 3.75
75th Percentile GPA: 3.90

Accepted Applicants: (38 Admits)
Mean LSAT: 171
25th Percentile LSAT: 168
50th Percentile LSAT: 171
75th Percentile LSAT: 174
Mean GPA: 3.86
25th Percentile GPA: 3.75
50th Percentile GPA: 3.90
75th Percentile GPA: 3.96

With 38 of the total 250 Berkeley applicants on LSN having been accepted, this means that 15.2% of them have been accepted.

*Of the 250 total applicants, 3 had no LSAT score or GPA; 9 had an LSAT score but no GPA; and 3 had a GPA but no LSAT score.


Thanks for this. So at some time or another they must start dipping into lower numbers one would hope.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:08 am

bobr wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Here are the current LSN numbers for Berkeley as of the morning of December 5th, 2012:

Total Applicant Pool: (250 Applicants)
Mean LSAT: 168
25th Percentile LSAT: 165
50th Percentile LSAT: 168
75th Percentile LSAT: 171
Mean GPA: 3.71
25th Percentile GPA: 3.60
50th Percentile GPA: 3.75
75th Percentile GPA: 3.90

Accepted Applicants: (38 Admits)
Mean LSAT: 171
25th Percentile LSAT: 168
50th Percentile LSAT: 171
75th Percentile LSAT: 174
Mean GPA: 3.86
25th Percentile GPA: 3.75
50th Percentile GPA: 3.90
75th Percentile GPA: 3.96

With 38 of the total 250 Berkeley applicants on LSN having been accepted, this means that 15.2% of them have been accepted.

*Of the 250 total applicants, 3 had no LSAT score or GPA; 9 had an LSAT score but no GPA; and 3 had a GPA but no LSAT score.


Thanks for this. So at some time or another they must start dipping into lower numbers one would hope.


I hope so. I'm well above their accepted LSAT but below that accepted GPA by quite a bit, ouch.

I've noticed it seems like schools are accepting high GPAs rather than high LSATs right away. And by schools I mean H and here. Wonder if they accept the high LSAT applicants later or what.

I'm so confused, I though high GPAs were a dime a dozen but that there was a small, finite number of high LSATs, and that therefore those would be in higher demand. Not good for me.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby postard » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:18 am

If that was true, I would feel more comfortable with my quasi reverse-splitter #'s. However, I'm not sure how far you can draw out that conclusion (A PT decision at Duke makes me think LSAT is still very much the primary directive).

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:18 am

bobr wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Here are the current LSN numbers for Berkeley as of the morning of December 5th, 2012:

Total Applicant Pool: (250 Applicants)
Mean LSAT: 168
25th Percentile LSAT: 165
50th Percentile LSAT: 168
75th Percentile LSAT: 171
Mean GPA: 3.71
25th Percentile GPA: 3.60
50th Percentile GPA: 3.75
75th Percentile GPA: 3.90

Accepted Applicants: (38 Admits)
Mean LSAT: 171
25th Percentile LSAT: 168
50th Percentile LSAT: 171
75th Percentile LSAT: 174
Mean GPA: 3.86
25th Percentile GPA: 3.75
50th Percentile GPA: 3.90
75th Percentile GPA: 3.96

With 38 of the total 250 Berkeley applicants on LSN having been accepted, this means that 15.2% of them have been accepted.

*Of the 250 total applicants, 3 had no LSAT score or GPA; 9 had an LSAT score but no GPA; and 3 had a GPA but no LSAT score.


Thanks for this. So at some time or another they must start dipping into lower numbers one would hope.


Based on what we have seen so far this year and last year's thread/LSN they don't actually ever do this, at least not to the extent you would think based on their medians. Not really sure what the deal is, maybe there are a lot of URMs/non-traditionals with lowish numbers who don't use LSN and bring down their medians? I don't know. But if you look at their medians and think that Berkeley is just another Cornell you are sorely mistaken. It is a very tough nut to crack.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby 20141023 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:59 am

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2016 Applicants (2012-2013 cycle)

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:11 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:Based on what we have seen so far this year and last year's thread/LSN they don't actually ever do this, at least not to the extent you would think based on their medians. Not really sure what the deal is, maybe there are a lot of URMs/non-traditionals with lowish numbers who don't use LSN and bring down their medians? I don't know. But if you look at their medians and think that Berkeley is just another Cornell you are sorely mistaken. It is a very tough nut to crack.

Berkeley actually doesn't differ a whole lot from Cornell when it comes to median LSAT scores. (Both were 167 for the class of 2015.) Because this is the median and not the mean, it means that there are just as many people at or below 167 as there are at or above it; hence, we've seen almost nothing but above-167's getting accepted, so it is only natural that they will begin accepting the below-167's now. (And that is assuming that they will even be able to keep the "167" median with the drop in applicants...)


Yeah but if everyone below 167 is URM or has great softs that doesn't do a whole lot for the majority of applicants, especially the K-JD "OMGZ I been under review for 2 weeks WHERE BE MY ACceptaNce!!!" crowd. 167/3.75 ain't gonna cut it at Cal if that's all you've got. Most of the time it will cut it at Cornell. That was my whole point.

Case in point: according to mylsn.info I have a 93% chance at Cornell but only a 27% chance at Berkeley. I am at or above medians at both schools.




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