University of Minnesota $$$ VS University of Virginia 2013 Forum

[whatismylife]

I think saying hella may give you away a bit more

Oh shit does no one say "hella" anymore? I was also recently informed that no one says "awesome" anymore either.

Someone needs to educate me on these things asap

Hella is regional to Northern California and the Pacific Northwest. I (and everyone else) am guessing that you're from one of these places.

Or to No Doubt fans.

Nope I'm from Minnesota but I do like No Doubt!

[CanadianWolf]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

[whatismylife]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

[Ohiobumpkin]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

Congrats! Enjoy!

[rickgrimes69]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

I'm a born and raised Minnesotan as well, and I ran into a very similar dilemma. UMN offered me nearly a full ride, but I got in at sticker to a bunch of lesser T14s. Like you, I wanted to work in MN and also wanted to work in Biglaw.

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

[whatismylife]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

I'm a born and raised Minnesotan as well, and I ran into a very similar dilemma. UMN offered me nearly a full ride, but I got in at sticker to a bunch of lesser T14s. Like you, I wanted to work in MN and also wanted to work in Biglaw.

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

Hey thanks rickgrimes! Just wondering, which did you go with??? Did you choose MN???

[rickgrimes69]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

Hey thanks rickgrimes! Just wondering, which did you go with??? Did you choose MN???

Nope, I ended up getting a partial scholly from Duke and went with them. But if it had stayed a decision b/w UMN with $$$$ and a lesser T14 at sticker, I'm honestly not sure what I would have done - that's a lot of money, but represents a much larger payout. I certainly don't envy your decision. Best of luck to whatever you decide.

[Samara]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

I'm a born and raised Minnesotan as well, and I ran into a very similar dilemma. UMN offered me nearly a full ride, but I got in at sticker to a bunch of lesser T14s. Like you, I wanted to work in MN and also wanted to work in Biglaw.

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

Let's not overstate the differences here. NYC Biglaw is not unattainable from UMN, it's just significantly more difficult. And UMN opens up Midwestern secondary markets for biglaw. You're looking a lower salary, but a lower cost of living too.

[Ohiobumpkin]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

I'm a born and raised Minnesotan as well, and I ran into a very similar dilemma. UMN offered me nearly a full ride, but I got in at sticker to a bunch of lesser T14s. Like you, I wanted to work in MN and also wanted to work in Biglaw.

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

Let's not overstate the differences here. NYC Biglaw is not unattainable from UMN, it's just significantly more difficult. And UMN opens up Midwestern secondary markets for biglaw. You're looking a lower salary, but a lower cost of living too.

The "it's t-14 or bust" crowd would eat you alive for such an astute statement. :p

[rickgrimes69]

Although others write that Minnesota is non-negotiable regarding scholarship awards, I wouldn't be surprised if you receive an increased scholarship offer after you withdraw to attend Virginia. (Minnesota is having difficulty getting applicants to commit this year according to a law professor who monitors law school admissions & placement.)

IT WORKED! UMN increased my scholly substantially! Have to withdraw from UVA by tomorrow at 4pm to receive it though. aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *head explodes*

I'm a born and raised Minnesotan as well, and I ran into a very similar dilemma. UMN offered me nearly a full ride, but I got in at sticker to a bunch of lesser T14s. Like you, I wanted to work in MN and also wanted to work in Biglaw.

Here's what you have to decide. If you go to UMN, you have to go knowing that you're kissing biglaw goodbye. That's not necessarily a bad thing, you'll still probably get a good job in MN and hey, no debt.

If you got UVA at sticker, you will have a good shot at getting biglaw, and you can probably even take it back to Minnesota. But you'll probably have to do NYC / DC biglaw for a few years first to pay off your loans.

There's no wrong answer here. Just try and think about which would make you happier 10 years down the line. Would you feel like you settled at MN? Or would you be happy you didn't take on the risk of UVA debt?

Let's not overstate the differences here. NYC Biglaw is not unattainable from UMN, it's just significantly more difficult. And UMN opens up Midwestern secondary markets for biglaw. You're looking a lower salary, but a lower cost of living too.

UMN places something like 10-15% in Biglaw. It's possible, but very unlikely. NYC biglaw is even more so. OP has to go into this knowing that UMN will almost certainly not end up with Biglaw anywhere, much less in NYC. Any less is to give false hope.

[Samara]

UMN places something like 10-15% in Biglaw. It's possible, but very unlikely. NYC biglaw is even more so. OP has to go into this knowing that UMN will almost certainly not end up with Biglaw anywhere, much less in NYC. Any less is to give false hope.

10-15% is accurate for c/o 2010, but the latest NLJ data (c/o 2011?) has UMN placing almost 20% in biglaw. And sure, not many of those are NYC/DC. But, I wouldn't call those numbers very unlikely. Very unlikely is NYLS or TJSL. The odds are against you, but if you can graduate with almost no debt, I don't see how you can justify taking out $200k at a school like UVa, where biglaw is still far from certain. Unless you are dead set against the Midwest, UMN seems like the better choice. Throw in all the personal reasons and I'd definitely pick UMN.

[rickgrimes69]

UMN places something like 10-15% in Biglaw. It's possible, but very unlikely. NYC biglaw is even more so. OP has to go into this knowing that UMN will almost certainly not end up with Biglaw anywhere, much less in NYC. Any less is to give false hope.

10-15% is accurate for c/o 2010, but the latest NLJ data (c/o 2011?) has UMN placing almost 20% in biglaw. And sure, not many of those are NYC/DC. But, I wouldn't call those numbers very unlikely. Very unlikely is NYLS or TJSL. The odds are against you, but if you can graduate with almost no debt, I don't see how you can justify taking out $200k at a school like UVa, where biglaw is still far from certain. Unless you are dead set against the Midwest, UMN seems like the better choice. Throw in all the personal reasons and I'd definitely pick UMN.

I don't disagree with this at all. Like I said, there's no wrong answer here.

[Samara]

UMN places something like 10-15% in Biglaw. It's possible, but very unlikely. NYC biglaw is even more so. OP has to go into this knowing that UMN will almost certainly not end up with Biglaw anywhere, much less in NYC. Any less is to give false hope.

10-15% is accurate for c/o 2010, but the latest NLJ data (c/o 2011?) has UMN placing almost 20% in biglaw. And sure, not many of those are NYC/DC. But, I wouldn't call those numbers very unlikely. Very unlikely is NYLS or TJSL. The odds are against you, but if you can graduate with almost no debt, I don't see how you can justify taking out $200k at a school like UVa, where biglaw is still far from certain. Unless you are dead set against the Midwest, UMN seems like the better choice. Throw in all the personal reasons and I'd definitely pick UMN.

I don't disagree with this at all. Like I said, there's no wrong answer here.

[fanmingrui]

Law school debt keeps me up at night, and I'm in relatively good shape. Take UMN and enjoy not multiplying all your expenses by 8%/year.
ETA: took partial scholly @ T14 over $$$ at UMN.

[minnbills]

I'm happy that things went well for you but I gotta say I'm pretty angry they lied about their scholarship policy, almost makes me wish I hadn't deposited.

[whatismylife]

I'm happy that things went well for you but I gotta say I'm pretty angry they lied about their scholarship policy, almost makes me wish I hadn't deposited.

When I tried to negotiate for more $$ earlier in the year, I got denied via a somewhat passive-aggressive email saying it was against their policy. That's why I was hesitant to try again but so glad I did.

Maybe they're getting desperate??

[minnbills]

When I tried to negotiate for more $$ earlier in the year, I got denied via a somewhat passive-aggressive email saying it was against their policy. That's why I was hesitant to try again but so glad I did.

Maybe they're getting desperate??

They might be in danger of losing their median or 75th and are now pursuing those candidates with more $$$.

Idk, when I asked BU/BC for waivers they both said they didn't offer them but then a week later both changed their minds. It made me think twice about whether or not I even wanted to go to school someplace that would lie like that.

I get it, they have to remain competitive and bringing in the most qualified class possible is a huge part of that, but I've definitely lost trust in the admissions department after this.

Anyways, congrats! I'll see you in Minneapolis!