Stanford Waitlist 2012

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ScratchableItch
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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby ScratchableItch » Mon May 07, 2012 5:13 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Hey everyone. Wanted to say hello and good luck. I got the WL two or three weeks ago. Waiting this out because I would probably go up until the first day of classes starting. A homeless SLS student doesn't sound too bad at all really.

Similar to how I feel :) I personally think the opportunity is worth living in my car or on a couch for one or two months.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby jim-green » Wed May 09, 2012 5:44 pm

Dean Deal's latest post says 220 offers were made. But aren't 380 offers usually made from which 180 accept?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby soj » Wed May 09, 2012 6:25 pm

jim-green wrote:Dean Deal's latest post says 220 offers were made.

No it doesn't.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby jim-green » Wed May 09, 2012 6:36 pm

soj wrote:
jim-green wrote:Dean Deal's latest post says 220 offers were made.
No it doesn't.
Oh are you waiting to hear back too?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Thu May 10, 2012 1:42 am

Has anyone received confirmation of their place on the WL after sending the form in? Might call tomorrow to confirm.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby theboywiththebread87 » Thu May 10, 2012 7:56 pm

Just thought I'd join the party. Long time lurker. Wait listed in late-April with what seems to be most of the soft holds.

Debating whether or not to send in another LOCI as well as a resume update (I didn't win a Rhodes or anything, but I did get a good internship for the summer).

Thoughts? Good luck to everyone else!! Hopefully Dean Deal will be making lots of calls shortly after May 22nd.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby larsoner » Fri May 11, 2012 5:50 pm

Elendil wrote:Has anyone received confirmation of their place on the WL after sending the form in? Might call tomorrow to confirm.


No, I haven't received confirmation either. Was starting to wonder about this. Please post what they tell you if you do end up calling.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby yikes0117 » Sun May 13, 2012 7:23 pm

waitlisted on may 4th and returned the form on may 5th. I haven't heard any response or seen any acknowledgement in my status check website.
Is a LOCI necessary? I've been working in a pharmacy for the past 8 months and I don't think they care about that.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 16, 2012 10:58 am

larsoner wrote:
Elendil wrote:Has anyone received confirmation of their place on the WL after sending the form in? Might call tomorrow to confirm.


No, I haven't received confirmation either. Was starting to wonder about this. Please post what they tell you if you do end up calling.


Forgot to check back in and let you guys know that I called... they confirmed that they received my WL confirmation and encouraged me to "definitely stay in touch."

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby jim-green » Wed May 16, 2012 12:35 pm

Elendil wrote:Forgot to check back in and let you guys know that I called... they confirmed that they received my WL confirmation and encouraged me to "definitely stay in touch."
So they will not less us know by e-mail or status update?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby DBishops » Wed May 16, 2012 12:38 pm

Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Br3v » Wed May 16, 2012 12:46 pm

DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 16, 2012 12:47 pm

jim-green wrote:
Elendil wrote:Forgot to check back in and let you guys know that I called... they confirmed that they received my WL confirmation and encouraged me to "definitely stay in touch."
So they will not less us know by e-mail or status update?


They didn't let me know until I called, so I would guess that's right.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Voldemort » Wed May 16, 2012 7:34 pm

Br3v wrote:
DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no


Berkeley requires you to withdraw from all other schools and waitlists by June 1st, doesn't it?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 16, 2012 9:13 pm

Voldemort wrote:
Br3v wrote:
DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no


Berkeley requires you to withdraw from all other schools and waitlists by June 1st, doesn't it?


http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissions/archive/2012/03/29/true-transparency.aspx
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Publications/PDFs/statementofgoodadm.pdf

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby thisguy456 » Wed May 16, 2012 9:23 pm

Elendil wrote:
Voldemort wrote:
Br3v wrote:
DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no


Berkeley requires you to withdraw from all other schools and waitlists by June 1st, doesn't it?


http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissions/archive/2012/03/29/true-transparency.aspx
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Publications/PDFs/statementofgoodadm.pdf


Just curious, does being waitlisted by a school count as receiving a decision?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Voldemort » Thu May 17, 2012 2:10 pm

Elendil wrote:
Voldemort wrote:
Br3v wrote:
DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no


Berkeley requires you to withdraw from all other schools and waitlists by June 1st, doesn't it?


http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissions/archive/2012/03/29/true-transparency.aspx
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Publications/PDFs/statementofgoodadm.pdf


I think you are mistaking LSAC's terms about what law schools "should" do for what law schools "must" do. This is mainly used as a guide, which Berkeley has chosen to not follow.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby adam1 » Thu May 17, 2012 2:14 pm

Elendil wrote:
Voldemort wrote:
Br3v wrote:
DBishops wrote:Are schools allowed to make you withdraw from a waitlist when you deposit? Sorry if its a stupid question, but for some reason I thought LSAC didn't allow that to be part of their terms...


no


Berkeley requires you to withdraw from all other schools and waitlists by June 1st, doesn't it?


http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissions/archive/2012/03/29/true-transparency.aspx
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Publications/PDFs/statementofgoodadm.pdf


The wording of the Berkeley "requirement" may reveal a bit more of what's going on. Some schools "expect" you to withdraw, but you're not required to do so.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Voldemort » Thu May 17, 2012 2:16 pm

Yeah, Berkeley requires it; the terms of accepting the offer of admission is an agreement to withdraw from all waitlists.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby larsoner » Thu May 17, 2012 2:20 pm

Voldemort wrote:Yeah, Berkeley requires it; the terms of accepting the offer of admission is an agreement to withdraw from all waitlists.


I'm pretty sure this has to be old wording still in the agreement. LSAC's policy is pretty new, but schools sign on to the rules in order to maintain membership. The guidelines linked to above are binding for member schools.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby ned » Thu May 17, 2012 2:22 pm

Voldemort wrote:Yeah, Berkeley requires it; the terms of accepting the offer of admission is an agreement to withdraw from all waitlists.


My 2 cents: Deposit is not the same as accepting an offer is it?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Voldemort » Thu May 17, 2012 2:23 pm

ned wrote:
Voldemort wrote:Yeah, Berkeley requires it; the terms of accepting the offer of admission is an agreement to withdraw from all waitlists.


My 2 cents: Deposit is not the same as accepting an offer is it?


Berkeley doesn't require a deposit. But accepting their offer clearly states on their website that you must withdraw from all other schools you have been accepted to and waitlisted at.
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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby larsoner » Thu May 17, 2012 2:24 pm

There was a discussion of this earlier in the Chicago thread, since they had similar old wording in their enrollment agreement. At some point Chicago's admissions dean was quoted saying that, of course, you don't have to withdraw from other schools to enroll at Chicago, as that would be a violation of LSAC policy.

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby adam1 » Thu May 17, 2012 2:24 pm

6. After April 1, except under binding early decision plans, every
accepted applicant should be free to accept a new offer from
a law school even though a scholarship has been accepted,
a deposit has been paid, or a committment has been made
to another school. To provide applicants with an uncoerced
choice among various law schools, no excessive
nonrefundable deposit should be required solely to maintain
a place in the class. Beginning on May 15 of each year, law
schools that participate in the Commitment Overlap Service
will be provided with information concerning all enrollment
commitments to any law school made by those applicants
who have indicated an intention to enroll in that school’s
entering class. A law school should clearly communicate its
policies on multiple enrollment commitments upon admission.


This sounds like you can stay on a waitlist because it is not an enrollment commitment. Right?

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Re: Stanford Waitlist 2012

Postby Voldemort » Thu May 17, 2012 2:26 pm

adam1 wrote:
6. After April 1, except under binding early decision plans, every
accepted applicant should be free to accept a new offer from
a law school even though a scholarship has been accepted,
a deposit has been paid, or a committment has been made
to another school. To provide applicants with an uncoerced
choice among various law schools, no excessive
nonrefundable deposit should be required solely to maintain
a place in the class. Beginning on May 15 of each year, law
schools that participate in the Commitment Overlap Service
will be provided with information concerning all enrollment
commitments to any law school made by those applicants
who have indicated an intention to enroll in that school’s
entering class. A law school should clearly communicate its
policies on multiple enrollment commitments upon admission.


This sounds like you can stay on a waitlist because it is not an enrollment commitment. Right?


This all says should, not must. And Berkeley's statement is unfortunately very clear.




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