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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 11:36 am

Don't some people have a late May deadline (latest date they could stay on the WL)?....if there is space in the class it would be rude if they take them off without even considering them (but i guess Harvard doesn't care one bit)... At this time I think it would help if i thought everyday wasn't the day.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby kav0204 » Wed May 23, 2012 11:37 am

Dear Deans Buttenbaum and Soban,

Please, please, please tell us what is going on here. Obviously, this cycle has been significantly different than previous ones, and we wouldn't expect any different. But there is a huge question hanging over our heads right now: is the HLS class nearly full (such that you will be making only a few WL admits)? Or is the "initial flood" that usually occurs in early May simply delayed?

We realize that communicating with us is not your priority. However, many of us are delaying making commitments (financial, but also emotional) to other schools/cities because we're waiting to see what happens with HLS. None of us expects to be admitted, but if you could give us at least a rough sense of how things look on your end, many of us would find it much easier to move on with our plans for next year.

Respectfully,

kav

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 11:44 am

kav0204 wrote:Dear Deans Buttenbaum and Soban,

Please, please, please tell us what is going on here. Obviously, this cycle has been significantly different than previous ones, and we wouldn't expect any different. But there is a huge question hanging over our heads right now: is the HLS class nearly full (such that you will be making only a few WL admits)? Or is the "initial flood" that usually occurs in early May simply delayed?

We realize that communicating with us is not your priority. However, many of us are delaying making commitments (financial, but also emotional) to other schools/cities because we're waiting to see what happens with HLS. None of us expects to be admitted, but if you could give us at least a rough sense of how things look on your end, many of us would find it much easier to move on with our plans for next year.

Respectfully,

kav



+1
Someone should post this as a comment on their blog...at least there is a chance they might see this..

If I may say Deans B and S are not living up to J.R

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby StrictlyBusiness » Wed May 23, 2012 11:47 am

sharktankdean wrote:Don't some people have a late May deadline (latest date they could stay on the WL)?....if there is space in the class it would be rude if they take them off without even considering them (but i guess Harvard doesn't care one bit)... At this time I think it would help if i thought everyday wasn't the day.


Yep. That day for me is this Friday, and I might call them if nothing has moved by the afternoon. If I get a non-answer or something I guess I'll go through with my plan to withdraw on Tuesday after the long weekend.

Obviously it's kinda shitty to not have been considered of the WL, but I was well aware that would be the risk when I gave them the date. Hopefully something happens in the next few days, but if not, I'm not gonna whine about their tardiness.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 23, 2012 11:47 am

I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed May 23, 2012 11:49 am

Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.

Although I agree with you that the class isn't full, apparently there has been movement on Yale's WL.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby kav0204 » Wed May 23, 2012 11:53 am

Re: Sharktankdean - I tried to post it as a blog comment. They don't allow blog comments.

Re: Elendil - I really hope you're right. It's sounding like Yale may have had some movement in the past week that we just didn't heard about (see Yale Waitlist forum), but still: I really hope you're right.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 11:55 am

Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.



Believe me I'm trying to be patient...and i realize that there is nothing else I can do...I've stopped telling people I'm waiting for Harvard...i just say I'm heading to Columbia, it helps a little .But deep down I know I'm deceiving myself.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 11:58 am

Doorkeeper wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.

Although I agree with you that the class isn't full, apparently there has been movement on Yale's WL.



I don't know if the YL has been confirmed. Honestly if they all thought long and hard..accepting people earlier increases the chances they would actually come which would help their yield..the longer the wait...the more people get committed to other schools...unless they are looking for the die hard applicants their plan could back fire.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby hypothalamus » Wed May 23, 2012 12:01 pm

Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed May 23, 2012 12:11 pm

hypothalamus wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby fingerscrossedxx » Wed May 23, 2012 12:28 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.


No its true, this is getting crazy, I have to let NYU know if im going by this friday, and if i deposit there and harvard calls next week, im going to be extremely happy of course, but also out $1300 in deposits :(

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby adam1 » Wed May 23, 2012 12:31 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.


Two years ago there was May 24 JR1 action, right? With really quick JR2 turnaround like a day or so. So, they're late but still within expected range. I'd be extremely surprised to see June 1 without a relatively big admit wave.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 12:33 pm

adam1 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.


Two years ago there was May 24 JR1 action, right? With really quick JR2 turnaround like a day or so. So, they're late but still within expected range. I'd be extremely surprised to see June 1 without a relatively big admit wave.



You forget JR >>>>>>>KB

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed May 23, 2012 12:38 pm

adam1 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:
Elendil wrote:I REALLY don't think that the class is full. Considering the drop in applicants and the fact that NONE of YHS have had waitlist movement yet, my money is on them combing through applications while waiting to see who draws first and how it effects their own pool. We just need to be patient.


How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.


Two years ago there was May 24 JR1 action, right? With really quick JR2 turnaround like a day or so. So, they're late but still within expected range. I'd be extremely surprised to see June 1 without a relatively big admit wave.


Last year the turn around was 12-16 days. The year before that the turnaround was 19 days. Year before that was around 25 days.

We're on 20 days so far, so I guess next week is possible.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 12:41 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
adam1 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
hypothalamus wrote:How do we thing the long weekend will affect it all? Possible that they're out on vacation or will be next week? Would they wait until after to make some calls or try to schedule some before going out?...

No idea. I'm pretty surprised that they haven't started yet, tbh. I thought they would start this week. They're waiting much longer than in previous years. I guess they could wrap everything up next week if they start on Tues or Wed, but who knows.


Two years ago there was May 24 JR1 action, right? With really quick JR2 turnaround like a day or so. So, they're late but still within expected range. I'd be extremely surprised to see June 1 without a relatively big admit wave.


Last year the turn around was 12-16 days. The year before that the turnaround was 19 days. Year before that was around 25 days.

We're on 20 days so far, so I guess next week is possible.


true. The WL was notified later than previous years. right?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 23, 2012 12:44 pm

sharktankdean wrote:
true. The WL was notified later than previous years. right?


Yes, by a few days.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed May 23, 2012 12:48 pm

Elendil wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
true. The WL was notified later than previous years. right?


Yes, by a few days.

I looked at the date the last WL notification was sent out, and the date that the first KB1 email was reported...so the specific date that they went out was irrelevant.

Long story short, I would be pretty damn surprised if we don't hear anything by the end of May.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby hypothalamus » Wed May 23, 2012 12:54 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
Elendil wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
true. The WL was notified later than previous years. right?


Yes, by a few days.

I looked at the date the last WL notification was sent out, and the date that the first KB1 email was reported...so the specific date that they went out was irrelevant.

Long story short, I would be pretty damn surprised if we don't hear anything by the end of May.


Then again, we were all pretty damn surprised to see TWO heads of HLS admissions go one maternity leave between January and March... :D :D

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby fingerscrossedxx » Wed May 23, 2012 2:10 pm

hypothalamus wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
Elendil wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
true. The WL was notified later than previous years. right?


Yes, by a few days.

I looked at the date the last WL notification was sent out, and the date that the first KB1 email was reported...so the specific date that they went out was irrelevant.

Long story short, I would be pretty damn surprised if we don't hear anything by the end of May.


Then again, we were all pretty damn surprised to see TWO heads of HLS admissions go one maternity leave between January and March... :D :D


And we were pretty damn surprised to have people waiting on regular decisions after May 1st :p

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby JannaV » Wed May 23, 2012 2:24 pm

YSWL are showing similar LOM; poss. that the classes are just full/unexpectedly high yield?

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby Elendil » Wed May 23, 2012 2:27 pm

JannaV wrote:YSWL are showing similar LOM; poss. that the classes are just full/unexpectedly high yield?


See last few pages of pure speculation. :wink:

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby adam1 » Wed May 23, 2012 2:35 pm

JannaV wrote:YSWL are showing similar LOM; poss. that the classes are just full/unexpectedly high yield?


If we get to June 1, yes. Lack of movement from YS at this stage in the game is not out of the ordinary at all. So, I feel like until it is confirmed that H's lack of movement is significant (June 1) assuming that these three are related is questionable.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby sharktankdean » Wed May 23, 2012 2:49 pm

JannaV wrote:YSWL are showing similar LOM; poss. that the classes are just full/unexpectedly high yield?



YS class sizes are too small to know and out of the top 3 are more likely to be full. Harvard is different...but seeing that you withdrew from Harvard you prob don't care about that.

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Re: Harvard Waitlist 2012

Postby yepyepyep » Wed May 23, 2012 4:10 pm

Two fear-inducing thoughts I'd appreciate getting debunked:
(1) Harvard decided this year was the year to reduce their class size, especially with their drop to 3 in the rankings probably having to do with their class size being 3x that of Y and S;
(2) Since applications were lower, and thus Harvard probably regular accepted applicants with profiles they normally don't, those people would be less likely to deny Harvard (since there's less likelihood they got into S and/or Y), and so the number of spots for WLs will be less.

These thoughts make me sad :(




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