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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby mickeyD » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:31 pm

boosk wrote:
rotaxkarter wrote:
MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:

Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE


For the newly held...


What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Lovely Ludwig Van » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:44 pm

mickeyD wrote:
boosk wrote:
rotaxkarter wrote:
MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:

Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE


For the newly held...


What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


New dean = weird cycle. I'm sure it'll all work out in the end.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby chucklesmcgee » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:56 pm

mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby fingerscrossedxx » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:57 pm

chucklesmcgee wrote:
mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.


This makes sense... at least for those crazy high numbers.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Nelson » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:59 pm

chucklesmcgee wrote:
mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.

Haha. Harvard is not worried about people choosing Yale over them. I would guess that those are K-JDs or internationals. Both of those groups have been having tough cycles at Harvard.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Doorkeeper » Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:04 pm

chucklesmcgee wrote:
mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.


I think that's a pretty risky strategy for them to be playing, especially since Yale makes a habit of NOT accepting all of the kids with crazy high numbers, or at least putting them on the WL. Also, I doubt most people accepted to Yale would immediately withdraw from a hold at Harvard, as I would guess many students making the HY decision would want to attend the ASW of both schools. Maybe this strategy could be used for holds, but extending it out past February/March might bring some risks, especially as that student accumulates significant scholarship offers and starts to visit the ASW of other schools. Harvard isn't immune from the #3-5 (aka Stanford, Chicago +Ruby, Columbia +Hamilton, etc).

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby curiouscat » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:12 am

Nelson wrote:Haha. Harvard is not worried about people choosing Yale over them. I would guess that those are K-JDs or internationals. Both of those groups have been having tough cycles at Harvard.

Yeah, I don't know about the others that were mentioned, but I have a strong sense that the 173/3.98 is an international.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby thatkid » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:25 am

mickeyD wrote:
boosk wrote:
rotaxkarter wrote:
MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:

Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ

Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE


For the newly held...


What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).


I just want you to know that the inclusion of my stats in your list made me smile. If only I weren't K-JD. :|

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby brown822015 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:27 am

What does K-JD stand for?

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby thatkid » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:29 am

brown822015 wrote:What does K-JD stand for?


It refers to candidates going straight from undergrad to law school, rather than taking a year or two to gain work experience.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby PrincetonLaw » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:55 pm

new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby alevin » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:57 pm

PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...


you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby PrincetonLaw » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:40 pm

alevin wrote:
PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...


you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.


blog post? haha care to share the link?

I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby alevin » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:46 pm

PrincetonLaw wrote:
alevin wrote:
PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...


you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.


blog post? haha care to share the link?

I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.



http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/admissions ... %E2%80%9D/

Please note that your application was complete with the letters of recommendation that you already submitted. Additional letters of recommendation, therefore, are unnecessary at this time.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Nulli Secundus » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:47 pm

They are currently trying to decide on the names to ding. By sending in a LoR right now, you make them see a document with your name on it, therefore when they are asked about their opinion on who to ding, there is an increased chance that they will remember your name!

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby alevin » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:51 pm

Nulli Secundus wrote:They are currently trying to decide on the names to ding. By sending in a LoR right now, you make them see a document with your name on it, therefore when they are asked about their opinion on who to ding, there is an increased chance that they will remember your name!


haha very possible.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby PrincetonLaw » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:53 pm

alevin wrote:
PrincetonLaw wrote:
alevin wrote:
PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...


you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.


blog post? haha care to share the link?

I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.



http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/admissions ... %E2%80%9D/

Please note that your application was complete with the letters of recommendation that you already submitted. Additional letters of recommendation, therefore, are unnecessary at this time.


I'll agree they aren't necessary but I still feel OK about it since she can provide insight to an update reflected on my new resume or that's my justification/rationalization

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby boosk » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:53 pm

sent in my updated resume and BOMB loci yesterday, two weeks ago (BEFORE I saw the blog post) I sent in a LOR that I already had on file with LSAC but wasn't sure of its strength, last week I sent in updated transcripts but my registrar messed up so i sent in a "corrected copy" last friday.

all done for now... idk if i could send in anything else, even if a WL comes my way...

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Killingly » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:56 pm

Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby chucklesmcgee » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:07 pm

Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.


I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Killingly » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:11 pm

chucklesmcgee wrote:
Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.


I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.


Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby 46nyc » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:54 pm

Killingly wrote:
chucklesmcgee wrote:
Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.


I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.


Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.


I sent the exact same blank printed-stamp postcard from the Post Office on 1/11 and just got it back yesterday

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby Killingly » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:59 pm

46nyc wrote:
Killingly wrote:
chucklesmcgee wrote:
Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.


I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.


Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.


I sent the exact same blank printed-stamp postcard from the Post Office on 1/11 and just got it back yesterday


Thank you, 46! That helps so much.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby 46nyc » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:13 am

Killingly wrote:
Thank you, 46! That helps so much.


No problem! I had actually forgotten about it until I saw the postcard in my mailbox, it was such a long time.

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Re: HELD @ HARVARD 2012 style

Postby lsatcrazy » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:19 am

Hey, did you guys just sign your names on the bottom of the LOCI, or do it on a separate cover page or something?




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