What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).boosk wrote:rotaxkarter wrote:For the newly held...MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE
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New dean = weird cycle. I'm sure it'll all work out in the end.mickeyD wrote:What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).boosk wrote:rotaxkarter wrote:For the newly held...MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE
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If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).
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This makes sense... at least for those crazy high numbers.chucklesmcgee wrote:If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).
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Haha. Harvard is not worried about people choosing Yale over them. I would guess that those are K-JDs or internationals. Both of those groups have been having tough cycles at Harvard.chucklesmcgee wrote:If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).
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I think that's a pretty risky strategy for them to be playing, especially since Yale makes a habit of NOT accepting all of the kids with crazy high numbers, or at least putting them on the WL. Also, I doubt most people accepted to Yale would immediately withdraw from a hold at Harvard, as I would guess many students making the HY decision would want to attend the ASW of both schools. Maybe this strategy could be used for holds, but extending it out past February/March might bring some risks, especially as that student accumulates significant scholarship offers and starts to visit the ASW of other schools. Harvard isn't immune from the #3-5 (aka Stanford, Chicago +Ruby, Columbia +Hamilton, etc).chucklesmcgee wrote:If I were them and wanted to keep our yield high and acceptance rate low because we didn't have that many applications to begin with, we'd hold the kids we thought were going to go into Yale and wait for them to withdraw.mickeyD wrote:
What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).
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Yeah, I don't know about the others that were mentioned, but I have a strong sense that the 173/3.98 is an international.Nelson wrote:Haha. Harvard is not worried about people choosing Yale over them. I would guess that those are K-JDs or internationals. Both of those groups have been having tough cycles at Harvard.
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I just want you to know that the inclusion of my stats in your list made me smile. If only I weren't K-JD.mickeyD wrote:What are they doing sending holds to a 3.94/178, a 3.9/175, and a 3.97/173? This is the weirdest cycle ever (of all 1 that I've observed).boosk wrote:rotaxkarter wrote:For the newly held...MobyDick wrote:I thought it might be nice to gather some data about held applicants, so I made a a Google Doc:
Form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... NU5meEE6MQ
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... kRqNU5meEE
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What does K-JD stand for?
- thatkid
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It refers to candidates going straight from undergrad to law school, rather than taking a year or two to gain work experience.brown822015 wrote:What does K-JD stand for?
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new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...
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you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...
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blog post? haha care to share the link?alevin wrote:you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...
I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.
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- alevin
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PrincetonLaw wrote:blog post? haha care to share the link?alevin wrote:you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...
I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/admissions ... %E2%80%9D/
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They are currently trying to decide on the names to ding. By sending in a LoR right now, you make them see a document with your name on it, therefore when they are asked about their opinion on who to ding, there is an increased chance that they will remember your name!
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haha very possible.Nulli Secundus wrote:They are currently trying to decide on the names to ding. By sending in a LoR right now, you make them see a document with your name on it, therefore when they are asked about their opinion on who to ding, there is an increased chance that they will remember your name!
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I'll agree they aren't necessary but I still feel OK about it since she can provide insight to an update reflected on my new resume or that's my justification/rationalizationalevin wrote:PrincetonLaw wrote:blog post? haha care to share the link?alevin wrote:you decided to do a LOR? I ultimately decided not to due to their blog post.PrincetonLaw wrote:new LOR going out today and sending an updated resume and letter tomorrow. don't think i really have a shot but giving it it's due diligence...
I received a promotion at work since applying and my boss was very enthusiastic about writing one so i didn't think it'd hurt.
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/admissions ... %E2%80%9D/
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- boosk
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sent in my updated resume and BOMB loci yesterday, two weeks ago (BEFORE I saw the blog post) I sent in a LOR that I already had on file with LSAC but wasn't sure of its strength, last week I sent in updated transcripts but my registrar messed up so i sent in a "corrected copy" last friday.
all done for now... idk if i could send in anything else, even if a WL comes my way...
all done for now... idk if i could send in anything else, even if a WL comes my way...
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Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.
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I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.
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Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.chucklesmcgee wrote:I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.
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I sent the exact same blank printed-stamp postcard from the Post Office on 1/11 and just got it back yesterdayKillingly wrote:Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.chucklesmcgee wrote:I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.
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Thank you, 46! That helps so much.46nyc wrote:I sent the exact same blank printed-stamp postcard from the Post Office on 1/11 and just got it back yesterdayKillingly wrote:Thanks. My postcard was a blank pre-paid one I bought from the post office. I hope whoever handles the mail didn't just assume that it couldn't be mailed because there was no physical stamp (just a thing that looks like a stamp scanned onto the card itself). I don't want to worry, but I am, haha.chucklesmcgee wrote:I think four or five mailing days. I live in PA, sent it Priority the day held decisions came out so maybe Harvard's sorting through the hundreds of LOCIs they've received.Killingly wrote:Anyone who sent a LOCI with self-addressed post card gotten the post card back yet? And, if so, how long did it take from when you mailed it? It's been a full week since I sent mine, and I've been on the look-out for my post card since. I assumed they'd pop the cards back in the mail and file the LOCIs later, but perhaps they're taking longer? I live in CT, by the way.
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No problem! I had actually forgotten about it until I saw the postcard in my mailbox, it was such a long time.Killingly wrote:
Thank you, 46! That helps so much.
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Hey, did you guys just sign your names on the bottom of the LOCI, or do it on a separate cover page or something?
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
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