In at Harvard

Share Your Experiences, Read About Other Experiences. Please keep posts organized by school and expected year of graduation.

Which ASW are you going to attend?

March 3-5
37
31%
April 14-16
36
30%
None, I hate fun
30
25%
Both (is this even possible?)
8
7%
The obligatory other
9
8%
 
Total votes: 120

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Rudolph
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Re: In at Harvard

Postby Rudolph » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:51 pm

annyong wrote:I've been doing some research and I'm really thinking of going the dorm route. I know they're dingy and have communal bathrooms, but for convenience sake I don't know if a furnished room at low(er) cost and close to campus can be beat, especially for just one year. Cost, for me, is really important, and I know I could probably get some roommates and live farther away to cut down on apartment costs, but that's something I think would be easier figured out after already living in the area for a while. I also have no pets, spouses, or kids to worry about.

I just can't believe how spoiled I am right now. I think a cardboard box in Cambridge/Palo Alto/NYC/etc. would have higher rent than my current two-story apartment.


If I decide to attend, I'm leaning towards the dorms as well. I just wish there was something in between the cramped Gropius dorms and the expensive North dorms. When I was living off campus my senior year of undergrad, I was paying $330 a month for a spacious room in a genuinely nice home :?

Any current HLS'ers care to comment on the various HLS dorms?

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby MumofCad » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:43 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:
splbagel wrote:Ok, team, who wants to go in on this fancypants pad? If we have three couples, it's just over $700 per person... just saying...

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Seriously, though, obsessive Craigslist-watching has revealed that the supposed "market-rate" apartments rented by Harvard are quite affordable compared to what's available right now. Am I missing something?


Holy Jesus that place is nice.


Now you see my problem since we need 4 bedrooms/2.5 baths at the very least lol.

It seems sensible to me that you could make the dorms work for a year. Plus, you'll get the chance to really build close bonds with your HLS classmates. My friends have noted how nice the library is to study in and that the gym is available right there too. Even if you live off campus, you will find yourself eating lunch out in the area and spending most of the day on campus for your first year.

One consideration, I did hear that those that stay in the dorms do tend toward having to pull more all-nighters just because you get the chance to be more social. Its apparently very easy with all the resources and activities at H to over-commit your first year, especially if you are right there on campus.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby thestillpoint » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:30 pm

MumofCad wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:
splbagel wrote:Ok, team, who wants to go in on this fancypants pad? If we have three couples, it's just over $700 per person... just saying...

--LinkRemoved--

Seriously, though, obsessive Craigslist-watching has revealed that the supposed "market-rate" apartments rented by Harvard are quite affordable compared to what's available right now. Am I missing something?


Holy Jesus that place is nice.


Now you see my problem since we need 4 bedrooms/2.5 baths at the very least lol.

It seems sensible to me that you could make the dorms work for a year. Plus, you'll get the chance to really build close bonds with your HLS classmates. My friends have noted how nice the library is to study in and that the gym is available right there too. Even if you live off campus, you will find yourself eating lunch out in the area and spending most of the day on campus for your first year.

One consideration, I did hear that those that stay in the dorms do tend toward having to pull more all-nighters just because you get the chance to be more social. Its apparently very easy with all the resources and activities at H to over-commit your first year, especially if you are right there on campus.


The dorms would definitely be convenient and would have an automatic sense of community-- but I think the website said 65% of HLS students live off-campus. So I imagine there are plenty of options to suit everyone's needs... though not necessarily their budgets.

One of my friends is currently a PhD student at Harvard, and he sent me a mini-guide to the surrounding area and his thoughts on the different options. I figured I would post it here in case anyone else found it helpful or any current students wanted to comment:


On-campus: basically like living in the quad. Single, communal hall bathroom, required meal plan. Not recommended.

Harvard-affiliated: Harvard owns a bunch of property that you can lease from them. It tends to be extremely close to campus, but also very expensive.

Off-campus: obviously, a free for all. I will lay out the common areas. We will basically follow the red line T stops.

So MIT is in east Cambridge. It's T stop is Kendall. Kendall is probably too far from Harvard for you to live there.

Next is Central. This is the trendy area in between MIT and Harvard, lots of fun bars and good restaurants. Rent is very reasonable; when I was looking for 4 bedrooms, it was roughly $800/month/person.

Next is Harvard. Obviously prime location for all things close to campus. Tends to be very expensive. This is where I live. We are paying $840 per month, but it is hard to find anything cheaper than about $1100.

Then comes Porter, which is near the north edge of campus and near the law school. It is probably a ten minute walk from the Porter T to the north edge of campus. Porter is pretty boring, not a lot going on. But you can get nice properties for good prices; we saw mostly $750 per month per person, and these apartments were generally good quality.

Then comes Davis, which is out by Tufts. Probably a 20-25 minute walk from Davis to the north edge of campus. But the rent is very cheap for very high quality apartments. Davis is much more fun than Porter, and there are better restaurants and bars.

If you want to go off the beaten track, you could live across the river in Allston or something. You can get big apartments for cheap prices, but it is not the safest area. This is where the business school is. You would be on the green line instead of the red line, and the green line is incredibly slow.

So yeah, I think you would have a good experience if you did Harvard-affiliated housing, but it is also quite pricey. If you want to live off campus, Central and Davis are the most fun, but they are farther from campus. The nice thing about Central is that there is a bus that runs from Harvard Square to Central to MIT to Harvard Med School and back (called the M2), and the bus is free for Harvard students. So you could pick that up in Central and take it to Harvard Square, and you wouldn't have to pay the $1.70 to ride the T.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby yankees42789 » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:41 pm

Checking in! 95% sure I'll be meeting you guys next fall - exciting!

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby MumofCad » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:48 pm

yankees42789 wrote:Checking in! 95% sure I'll be meeting you guys next fall - exciting!


Congrats! Welcome to thread!

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby phl516 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:20 pm

Hi everyone, feeling so lucky and excited to be checking in here.

I think this has been discussed in various places to a degree, but I am wondering what role a merit-based scholarship offer can have in negotiating a need-based financial aid package at a place like Harvard. To me it seems kind of counter intuitive that it would have any impact at all, but apparently that is not necessarily the case? Specifically, I am wondering if there is any reason to fly down to Duke for a Mordecai Scholarship interview if there is little chance I will attend. Thanks for any input!

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby thederangedwang » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:22 pm

phl516 wrote:Hi everyone, feeling so lucky and excited to be checking in here.

I think this has been discussed in various places to a degree, but I am wondering what role a merit-based scholarship offer can have in negotiating a need-based financial aid package at a place like Harvard. To me it seems kind of counter intuitive that it would have any impact at all, but apparently that is not necessarily the case? Specifically, I am wondering if there is any reason to fly down to Duke for a Mordecai Scholarship interview if there is little chance I will attend. Thanks for any input!

according to other tls'ers, none.

Harvard will only consider revising ur aid offer if another school offers u a higher need based offer. And apparently, the only schools they will consider this for is Yale and stanford..this is what i got from reading other people's posts so obviously i could be wrong

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby MumofCad » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:25 pm

I'm not sure its as bad as deranged mentioned, but I don't think a Duke full-ride would really be grounds to negotiate with H. A Rubenstein or whatever the Columbia one is...maybe.

ETA: qualifying that I'm not an expert source on this though. Its rather murky, but I'm guessing. I was thinking a full-ride might be used from a higher ranked school, but likely just on the margins, not as a straight match. Like, "hey Harvard, I got a full-ride to go to Columbia, can you make Boston a financially-feasible option for me to be able to live?" Harvard: "We might be able to give you an additional 5k a year."

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby gimelstein315 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:25 pm

so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby yankees42789 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:28 pm

gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Yes, but we'll let it slide. :)

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby gimelstein315 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:30 pm

yankees42789 wrote:
gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Yes, but we'll let it slide. :)



haha thanks. thrilled to see you got in yankees; i was rooting for ya.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby splbagel » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:30 pm

gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Super lame, but also super legit. When I told my friend I got in, she sent me the OST to "Legally Blonde, The Musical." I didn't even know there was such a thing, but it's hilariously cheesy. Listen to her magically get from 134 to 175 by refusing to party... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18IihSbjO0

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby oldguy30 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:30 pm

gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


A little lame, but I like that movie too, in contrast to the sequel. :)

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby gimelstein315 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:31 pm

splbagel wrote:
gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Super lame, but also super legit. When I told my friend I got in, she sent me the OST to "Legally Blonde, The Musical." I didn't even know there was such a thing, but it's hilariously cheesy. Listen to her magically get from 134 to 175 by refusing to party... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18IihSbjO0



in the movie, she moves from a 143 to a 179...i wonder which is more unbelievable.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby oldguy30 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:32 pm

splbagel wrote:
gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Super lame, but also super legit. When I told my friend I got in, she sent me the OST to "Legally Blonde, The Musical." I didn't even know there was such a thing, but it's hilariously cheesy. Listen to her magically get from 134 to 175 by refusing to party... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l18IihSbjO0


though she got a 179 in the movie

ED: Looks like all my replies are a little too slow to be relevant. Comes with my great age.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby spek » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:41 pm

gimelstein315 wrote:so excited to be here and so glad to be joining all you awesome folk.

is it super lame that i watched legally blonde last night?


Haha. My roommates and I did this too the night after I got in.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby soj » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:47 pm

My former landlord is truly the worst. I got in on 11/21 and I won't get my acceptance letter until possibly January because my former landlord refuses to send me the letter. Were there any important details in the letter (e.g. ASW registration deadlines)? Is there an admitted students website? Also, how big was the package?

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby splbagel » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:50 pm

soj wrote:My former landlord is truly the worst. I got in on 11/21 and I won't get my acceptance letter until possibly January because my former landlord refuses to send me the letter. Were there any important details in the letter (e.g. ASW registration deadlines)? Is there an admitted students website? Also, how big was the package?


The package isn't big (that's what SHE said!), but it does contain the login for the admitted students website and your soj.jd15@law.hardvard.edu email, which is where they're going to be sending updates. No specific info about registering for ASW yet.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby soj » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:52 pm

splbagel wrote:
soj wrote:My former landlord is truly the worst. I got in on 11/21 and I won't get my acceptance letter until possibly January because my former landlord refuses to send me the letter. Were there any important details in the letter (e.g. ASW registration deadlines)? Is there an admitted students website? Also, how big was the package?


The package isn't big (that's what SHE said!), but it does contain the login for the admitted students website and your soj.jd15@law.hardvard.edu email, which is where they're going to be sending updates. No specific info about registering for ASW yet.

How do you check the email? Is the initial password some gibberish or some combination of my personal info (e.g. LSAC ID)? Thanks for helping me cope with my impatience. :P

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby splbagel » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:54 pm

soj wrote:
splbagel wrote:
soj wrote:My former landlord is truly the worst. I got in on 11/21 and I won't get my acceptance letter until possibly January because my former landlord refuses to send me the letter. Were there any important details in the letter (e.g. ASW registration deadlines)? Is there an admitted students website? Also, how big was the package?


The package isn't big (that's what SHE said!), but it does contain the login for the admitted students website and your soj.jd15@law.hardvard.edu email, which is where they're going to be sending updates. No specific info about registering for ASW yet.

How do you check the email? Is the initial password some gibberish or some combination of my personal info (e.g. LSAC ID)? Thanks for helping me cope with my impatience. :P


Yes, they give you a gibberish alphanumeric password, and then ask you to change it the first time you log in.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby soj » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:55 pm

Damn! I guess I'll have to wait. :evil:

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby splbagel » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:58 pm

soj wrote:Damn! I guess I'll have to wait. :evil:


You could try calling them, explaining the situation, and have them read it to you over the phone? There's nothing exciting in the email yet for me besides a little post-acceptance survey that allows you to tell them what academic areas, student groups, and identity-based groups you'd like to hear from.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby soj » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:04 pm

Good idea--I'll try that later. I'm not holding my breath though. I had to snail mail the admissions office when my mailing address changed: it's the only school I applied to that doesn't accept address change notifications by email or phone. As if I have the patience for snail mail, especially around holiday season.

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby thederangedwang » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:37 pm

soj wrote:Good idea--I'll try that later. I'm not holding my breath though. I had to snail mail the admissions office when my mailing address changed: it's the only school I applied to that doesn't accept address change notifications by email or phone. As if I have the patience for snail mail, especially around holiday season.

No? I changed my address through email and phone call....

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Re: In at Harvard

Postby ladybug89 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:41 pm

thederangedwang wrote:
soj wrote:Good idea--I'll try that later. I'm not holding my breath though. I had to snail mail the admissions office when my mailing address changed: it's the only school I applied to that doesn't accept address change notifications by email or phone. As if I have the patience for snail mail, especially around holiday season.

No? I changed my address through email and phone call....


really?? they wouldn't let me do that. lame.

as for legally blonde, that's like one of the top things i'm looking forward to doing when i get back to the US. but i have been listening to the musical soundtrack over and over while abroad, because it is awesome.




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