Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby mrtoren » Sat May 19, 2012 1:41 pm

ford2city wrote:Do you have any solid advice? Should I just take a year off and then reapply to schools next year? I cannot shake the feeling that I am throwing away my future because of financial pressures and my parents whispering into my ear telling me to go to this school. When I told my dad I wanted to pay sticker price and go to Maryland he just made this disappointed sound on the phone. They keep telling me this is my choice but then they keep pushing me into Camden. I go along with it because ultimately they cosign my loans and are in this debt trap with me but it is so stressful. I have no idea what to do and every time I try to discuss with them they just tell me it is my choice and my life but then subtlety push me towards Camden.

Is going to Camden really that bad? Am I screwing myself over by settling for this school? Bare in my mind I am already $120,000 in debt of my undergraduate degree and even with the stipend and work study I am look at another $60,000-70,000 going to Camden. I need some serious advice ASAP.

You should be rethinking law school in general. You already have what amounts to a mortgage-worth of educational debt and the legal profession is a gamble right now. Taking out $120,000 to attend what I'm assuming was a private university was a poor decision. All said, nearing the $200,000+ mark, PLUS interest, is just insane. Its not worth it.

To be fair, too many people on these boards place all of their emphasis on the school and the ranking. Yes, both are important. However, the kind of person you are makes a difference as well. IMHO, if you fall flat on your face out of Rutgers-Camden, you would have fallen flat on your face out of Rutgers-Newark or Maryland. If you're an asshole, you're an asshole. If you're an awkward introvert, you're an awkward introvert. It doesn't matter what law school you graduate from, you'll probably struggle to find decent work.

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Postby Fletcher Reed » Sun May 20, 2012 1:24 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Sun May 20, 2012 1:59 pm

You shouldn't have to go to a law school that has to have a "marketing pitch." That's absurd. This is the legal profession, not a Wal Mart circular.

What jobs are "in the legal field?" A lot of doc review. You sit in a "station," not an office, not even a cubicle, with your name typed on a piece of copy paper above your head. And after 9 months you are on craigslist looking for another job--in the "legal field."

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby 2LT_CPG » Sun May 20, 2012 3:28 pm

Not the thread for this. This is for future Rutgers-Camden students.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Scottie2Hottie » Sun May 20, 2012 3:35 pm

show me a school that doesn't massage the numbers to make it look good for them and I'll show you a liar.

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Postby Fletcher Reed » Sun May 20, 2012 3:59 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Sun May 20, 2012 4:01 pm

Scottie2Hottie wrote:show me a school that doesn't massage the numbers to make it look good for them and I'll show you a liar.


Yale.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby HeavenWood » Sun May 20, 2012 5:39 pm

Hey Fletch, some people have asked me to send them the especially derpy posts of yours I saved. Mind you, (1) I don't have them anymore, and (2) even if I did, trying to ruin your life is, in my humble opinion, a rather harsh response to your douchery, though it is ceaselessly annoying. Assuming this all isn't some retarded troll play, I question how you can possibly get along in this world.

Bottom line: you've made some enemies here, and I can only speak for myself when I say I won't be making any affirmative efforts to fuck you over. Others may not be so kind. In the future, I would strongly advise thinking more carefully before posting. You have no stake in the merger issue. Why not leave it be?

Good luck, breh, in both life and law.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby highlander1 » Sun May 20, 2012 8:21 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby IHeartPhilly » Tue May 22, 2012 5:48 pm

This thread seems to provide a really congenial atmosphere!!!

In the interest of returning this thread to its original function......where to rent for school? Right across the bridge, or in Camden itself? Whats rent like in Camden (not too far from the school)? I realize a simple google will probably suffice, but I'm pressed for time, and will hopefully return to a plethora of advice.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby librarian21 » Wed May 23, 2012 2:22 pm

IHeartPhilly wrote:This thread seems to provide a really congenial atmosphere!!!

In the interest of returning this thread to its original function......where to rent for school? Right across the bridge, or in Camden itself? Whats rent like in Camden (not too far from the school)? I realize a simple google will probably suffice, but I'm pressed for time, and will hopefully return to a plethora of advice.


Not a plethora, but I can at least help with a starter answer, since I was doing the apartment hunt a month ago. It seems like most students that actually live in Camden are either in on-campus housing or at the Victor. The Victor's pricey, but I went in on a 1BR with my boyfriend which made it a doable price. The other current students I've interacted with either live in the surrounding cities in apartments or are living with their parents and commuting from home. Feel free to find the group started on FB, I know there were some posts mentioned about housing price comparisons on there...

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ford2city » Thu May 24, 2012 5:59 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby 20130312 » Fri May 25, 2012 12:18 pm

Go to Rumor. Be prepared to pay $20 just to get in. But you don't care about money, right? Perfect.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ford2city » Fri May 25, 2012 4:53 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Sat May 26, 2012 1:23 pm

ford2city wrote:Well Rutgers upgraded my scholarship and I am getting a full ride. I can not really turn down free law school so Camden it is. I'm not too worried about debt because my parents cosigned my loans and they have plenty of money and potential future income so if I default they will be able to pay my loan. That and I'm pretty sure there is no extradition for debt in Canada so I can always runaway :lol: No I did not go to a private university, tuition was about $20,000 a year, add on top of that $10,000 for food, housing, amenities, etc and after 4 years you are pretty deep in the hole. It is a vicious system that is more or less one of the remaining forms of slavery. Camus once remarked in "The Rebel" that slavery has existed essentially throughout the whole of human history and most likely will always exist. It does not disappear but merely changes forms in this case from physical bondage to monetary chains.

I am also not worried about the debt because honestly all I have ever wanted to be was a lawyer and I cannot see myself doing anything else. I have secured housing at 330 Cooper Street and am extremely looking forward to living in the brand new apartments, plus the public spaces and all the amenities are sweet. The only thing I am worried about is finding my way into the EDM scene in Philadelphia. I live in Baltimore right now and the EDM scene down here is awesome plus DC is right down the road. Anyone in the area know any promotion companies/websites that list EDM events? I tried Buzz Life and Rave Links but they do not have a lot of people posting events...


I don't get it. If you don't care about debt, then why are you taking the free ride? Wouldn't it make more sense to go to a higher-ranked school and take on debt?

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ford2city » Sat May 26, 2012 1:57 pm

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Postby IHeartPhilly » Sat May 26, 2012 2:24 pm

"edm"? Congrats on scholly, btw

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby 20130312 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:15 pm

Electronic dance music.

Any evening students here?

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ford2city » Sat May 26, 2012 9:22 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 29, 2012 8:39 am

ford2city wrote:I am not worried about the debt, it is not that I do not care. I will take a free ride over pilling on another $145,000+ If I go to Camden it is only about $15,000 a year for housing/food/books/fees which is something I would have to pay anyway so it is negligible. Plus just because my parents are obligated to pay my loans if I default it does not mean that I am trying to be a scumbag and stick them with an enormous tab.


Tell them you are paying for their Medicare and Social Security so it's all even...(three quarters serious...).

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby 2saddlehorn » Tue May 29, 2012 2:18 pm

Anyone out there see the employment representation by Rutgers claiming that 90% of graduates would earn $130,000? Apparently only less than 5% of graduates are seeing this result. This is Dean Solomon's response:
"Dean Rayman Solomon is defending the pitch to prospective students despite reports that no more than five recent graduates reported a salary of $130,000. Solomon is quoted as responding to questions with 'I don’t know how to respond. If you have a hundred people, would four of them be misled? Would one be misled? Would 98 be misled? [It was] a piece that was designed to get people to think about something they hadn’t thought about. This wasn’t the only information they could get about it."
Please email me if you or any of your classmates decided to pursue your degree at Rutgers based wholly or partly on the representation. Jennifer.duffy@yahoo.com
I'd like to see how many people have relied on this in this economy.

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Postby 20130312 » Tue May 29, 2012 2:42 pm

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 29, 2012 2:50 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
2saddlehorn wrote:Anyone out there see the employment representation by Rutgers claiming that 90% of graduates would earn $130,000? Apparently only less than 5% of graduates are seeing this result. This is Dean Solomon's response:
"Dean Rayman Solomon is defending the pitch to prospective students despite reports that no more than five recent graduates reported a salary of $130,000. Solomon is quoted as responding to questions with 'I don’t know how to respond. If you have a hundred people, would four of them be misled? Would one be misled? Would 98 be misled? [It was] a piece that was designed to get people to think about something they hadn’t thought about. This wasn’t the only information they could get about it."
Please email me if you or any of your classmates decided to pursue your degree at Rutgers based wholly or partly on the representation. Jennifer.duffy@yahoo.com
I'd like to see how many people have relied on this in this economy.


Looks like someone is gearing up for a lawsuit. Wasn't it only a couple of months ago that this ruling came down?:

WSJ wrote:New York Supreme Court Justice Melvin Schweitzer said prospective law school students should know better.

“By anyone’s definition, reasonable consumers — college graduates — seriously considering law schools are a sophisticated subset of education consumers, capable of sifting through data and weighing alternatives before making a decision regarding their post-college options,” Justice Schweitzer wrote.



Law students should know better. But so should law schools.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby 2LT_CPG » Tue May 29, 2012 5:33 pm

2saddlehorn wrote:Anyone out there see the employment representation by Rutgers claiming that 90% of graduates would earn $130,000? Apparently only less than 5% of graduates are seeing this result. This is Dean Solomon's response:
"Dean Rayman Solomon is defending the pitch to prospective students despite reports that no more than five recent graduates reported a salary of $130,000. Solomon is quoted as responding to questions with 'I don’t know how to respond. If you have a hundred people, would four of them be misled? Would one be misled? Would 98 be misled? [It was] a piece that was designed to get people to think about something they hadn’t thought about. This wasn’t the only information they could get about it."
Please email me if you or any of your classmates decided to pursue your degree at Rutgers based wholly or partly on the representation. Jennifer.duffy@yahoo.com
I'd like to see how many people have relied on this in this economy.

I can guarantee you that's not what the employment representation said, and if it said something remotely close to it, you're misconstruing it.

Also, stop posting this in here. Once again, not the thread for this. I have no idea what's drawing you people to the Rutgers threads lately.

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Re: Rutgers-Camden Class of 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Wed May 30, 2012 8:43 am

2LT_CPG wrote:
2saddlehorn wrote:Anyone out there see the employment representation by Rutgers claiming that 90% of graduates would earn $130,000? Apparently only less than 5% of graduates are seeing this result. This is Dean Solomon's response:
"Dean Rayman Solomon is defending the pitch to prospective students despite reports that no more than five recent graduates reported a salary of $130,000. Solomon is quoted as responding to questions with 'I don’t know how to respond. If you have a hundred people, would four of them be misled? Would one be misled? Would 98 be misled? [It was] a piece that was designed to get people to think about something they hadn’t thought about. This wasn’t the only information they could get about it."
Please email me if you or any of your classmates decided to pursue your degree at Rutgers based wholly or partly on the representation. Jennifer.duffy@yahoo.com
I'd like to see how many people have relied on this in this economy.

I can guarantee you that's not what the employment representation said, and if it said something remotely close to it, you're misconstruing it.

Also, stop posting this in here. Once again, not the thread for this. I have no idea what's drawing you people to the Rutgers threads lately.


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