Arizona State c/o 2015

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:50 pm

favrefire4 wrote:Interesting points. At this point, even if they do call, I think it might be too late...



There is only three reasons I can think of for postponing waitlist movement until now

1) They are incompetent and lazy and haven't got around to it.
2) They are trying to figure out how to interpret the new GPA and LSAT guidelines before they admit anyone below their medians.
3) They are waiting for all applicants to firmly decide if they want to go to ASU before they offer and so they keep their yield numbers high.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby gaud » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:04 pm

PolySuyGuy wrote:
favrefire4 wrote:Interesting points. At this point, even if they do call, I think it might be too late...



There is only three reasons I can think of for postponing waitlist movement until now

1) They are incompetent and lazy and haven't got around to it.
2) They are trying to figure out how to interpret the new GPA and LSAT guidelines before they admit anyone below their medians.
3) They are waiting for all applicants to firmly decide if they want to go to ASU before they offer and so they keep their yield numbers high.


Can't be number 3. Their 'Letter of Intent' deadline has already passed.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby favrefire4 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:58 pm

I honestly don't get it.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby jennbear » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:29 pm

Either people on the waitlist are paying seat deposits elsewhere while continuing to ride-out ASU (which can be a very expensive decision), or are very committed to attending ASU so they let go of other offers - this obviously carries the risk of having to take a year off only to reapply next cycle if rejected. Either way it would appear that those of us deciding to ride it out are risking something, be it financial resources or the ability to attend law school this year. Everyone still on the waitlist should be admitted right now :D
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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby SiRR » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 pm

Having spent a combined hour speaking with dean of admissions and another admissions director on Tuesday, I don't think it's number 1, either. Quite the opposite, in fact. They seemed very thorough and thoughtful about their work. Based on the nature and tone of the conversations, I believe they are most likely making adjustments to their admissions formulas for yield and medians. They take their jump in rankings very seriously, and naturally want to protect it as much as possible.

I didn't ask specifically about the number of wait list spots, but I know they have pulled from the wait list, and will continue to do so.

Don't lose hope.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby jennbear » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:35 pm

So they indicated to you that they have begun to admit off the waitlist?

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby gaud » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:41 pm

SiRR wrote:Having spent a combined hour speaking with dean of admissions and another admissions director on Tuesday, I don't think it's number 1, either. Quite the opposite, in fact. They seemed very thorough and thoughtful about their work. Based on the nature and tone of the conversations, I believe they are most likely making adjustments to their admissions formulas for yield and medians. They take their jump in rankings very seriously, and naturally want to protect it as much as possible.

Don't lose hope.


Yes.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby SiRR » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:48 pm

jennbear wrote:So they indicated to you that they have begun to admit off the waitlist?


From what I understand, they have pulled applications from the wait list for admission. I didn't get a firm yes or no if anyone had actually been admitted yet, but there will be movement.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:57 pm

gaud wrote:
PolySuyGuy wrote:
favrefire4 wrote:Interesting points. At this point, even if they do call, I think it might be too late...



There is only three reasons I can think of for postponing waitlist movement until now

1) They are incompetent and lazy and haven't got around to it.
2) They are trying to figure out how to interpret the new GPA and LSAT guidelines before they admit anyone below their medians.
3) They are waiting for all applicants to firmly decide if they want to go to ASU before they offer and so they keep their yield numbers high.


Can't be number 3. Their 'Letter of Intent' deadline has already passed.



I meant for the long game, as in applicants off the waitlist. As in everyone else has done the waitlist process. For example I have seen some applicants go through 4-5 schools as they get accepted from waitlists.

I agree with Jennbear, that is very expensive. Prohibitively so for a lot of people.

In reply to Jennbear's comment, I can see a situation where ASU eventually has to accept everyone off the waitlist if they want to keep enrollment at 200 students.

Someone should call and see if they have accepted anyone of the waitlist yet. I doubt it.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby favrefire4 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:26 am

So, if I'm to understand this correctly...they've pulled files from the wait list of those they intend to admit, but haven't actually admitted them yet??

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby shroeder » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:44 am

favrefire4 wrote:So, if I'm to understand this correctly...they've pulled files from the wait list of those they intend to admit, but haven't actually admitted them yet??


Actually no. From what I know they have admitted several people from the wait list, but no one in the last few weeks. It's possible they are happy with the current class, but on a positive note I know that some students committed here are on the wait list of other schools, and should they get pulled, then seats at ASU would in theory open up.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby favrefire4 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:49 am

That's too bad if that's the truth. Kathy explicitly told me that they hadn't even begun to look at the wait list until this week. IF she was lying, I'm pretty disappointed by that fact.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby shroeder » Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:43 pm

favrefire4 wrote:That's too bad if that's the truth. Kathy explicitly told me that they hadn't even begun to look at the wait list until this week. IF she was lying, I'm pretty disappointed by that fact.


The few I know who said they were wait listed and admitted got in a while ago, so perhaps they are now again just getting to it for the first time since they completed decisions. Idk, I hope everyone gets in!

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:39 pm

shroeder wrote:
favrefire4 wrote:That's too bad if that's the truth. Kathy explicitly told me that they hadn't even begun to look at the wait list until this week. IF she was lying, I'm pretty disappointed by that fact.


The few I know who said they were wait listed and admitted got in a while ago, so perhaps they are now again just getting to it for the first time since they completed decisions. Idk, I hope everyone gets in!



Any chance it could be semantics, held vs. waitlisted?

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby favrefire4 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:45 pm

Any chance it could be semantics, held vs. waitlisted?[/quote]

I suppose that could be possible? Nowhere from my communications with them have I seen them use "held" though.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby jennbear » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:17 pm

Kathy also told me that no movement had occurred from the waitlist as of yet.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:03 pm

jennbear wrote:Kathy also told me that no movement had occurred from the waitlist as of yet.



Maybe they'll start sometime around September.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby SiRR » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:46 pm

shroeder wrote:
anozira wrote:Anyone know when orientation begins?



August 17. My birthday!!! :)


Looks like recent Blackboard announcement (yesterday) has it starting on Saturday 18th.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby shroeder » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:29 pm

SiRR wrote:
shroeder wrote:
anozira wrote:Anyone know when orientation begins?



August 17. My birthday!!! :)


Looks like recent Blackboard announcement (yesterday) has it starting on Saturday 18th.



I saw that too.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby favrefire4 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:51 pm

*crickets*

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby Solieyu » Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:14 pm

Still no word here as well.

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:35 pm

Solieyu wrote:Still no word here as well.



I am assuming since it is a Holiday on Wednesday the entire admissions department gets the week off, or at least those who make waitlist decisions :wink: .

Has anyone called lately?


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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby shroeder » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:37 pm

I spoke with the admissions office today about a non-related subject, point being they are in fact open. Good luck

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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby PolySuyGuy » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:37 pm

shroeder wrote:I spoke with the admissions office today .. point being they are in fact open.




Crazy me. What was I thinking?



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Re: Arizona State c/o 2015

Postby pbfoot » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:44 am

after having declined ASU's admission/scholarship offer about two weeks ago, I received an email today asking if I would reconsider with additional scholarship money. still will not be attending, but there is definitely activity.




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