Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby magicbunny » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:19 pm

givemea170 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Sorry to ask maybe a dumb question, but I want to specialize in Business Law... should that make my decision of UIUC, Depaul, Kent, or LUC easier?

I obviously need to do a lot more research!


Anyone care to help? I'll buy you some Gino's East pizza.


I would choose UIUC. If you're doing business law then you probably want to get into biglaws, and they tend to favor higher ranking schools. But it would be a little different if you're given large scholarships from LUC/Kent/Depaul and don't want to take on a lot of debt. Just some personally thoughts

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby CPM723 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:20 pm

magicbunny wrote:
CPM723 wrote:
Chicago is an awesome city, plus this year's weather is amazing :) I guess I could do both for the sake of knowing people (don't have anything to do that friday anyway). I guess I'll see you around then!


Yeah, I love Chicago, which is why I'm only planning on attending one of them, so I can take advantage of the city- since I don't get to be up here very often! Yeah, I'm sure i'll definitely see you then.


Just BTW I saw you in several threads and our school selections are so identical :) Chicago schools/baylor/case western etc...


haha nice! At this point, i'm definitely leaning towards Loyola.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby givemea170 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:33 pm

magicbunny wrote:
givemea170 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Sorry to ask maybe a dumb question, but I want to specialize in Business Law... should that make my decision of UIUC, Depaul, Kent, or LUC easier?

I obviously need to do a lot more research!


Anyone care to help? I'll buy you some Gino's East pizza.


I would choose UIUC. If you're doing business law then you probably want to get into biglaws, and they tend to favor higher ranking schools. But it would be a little different if you're given large scholarships from LUC/Kent/Depaul and don't want to take on a lot of debt. Just some personally thoughts


So no chances with big law at LUC/Kent/Depaul you think? Even if I could manage top 10%?

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby CPM723 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:35 pm

givemea170 wrote:
magicbunny wrote:
givemea170 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Sorry to ask maybe a dumb question, but I want to specialize in Business Law... should that make my decision of UIUC, Depaul, Kent, or LUC easier?

I obviously need to do a lot more research!


Anyone care to help? I'll buy you some Gino's East pizza.


I would choose UIUC. If you're doing business law then you probably want to get into biglaws, and they tend to favor higher ranking schools. But it would be a little different if you're given large scholarships from LUC/Kent/Depaul and don't want to take on a lot of debt. Just some personally thoughts


So no chances with big law at LUC/Kent/Depaul you think? Even if I could manage top 10%?


I've heard that LUC gives you a solid chance at BigLaw. Check their website. They seem to be fairly transparent about their job placement. I believe the Stat sheet or the Viewbook has a decent breakdown of employment. I remember reading somewhere that Loyola places well, but can't remember where.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby magicbunny » Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:54 pm

Their fact sheet says among those graduates practicing in the private sector 51% of them are in law firms with 2-10 attorneys, whereas 15% are in firms with more than 250 attorneys. So yes, you probably need to do better than top 10% at Loyola to get a biglaw job. And that's for the class of 2010 (a particularly bad year though).

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby rma » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:19 am

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... 2483173162

The link gives biglaw placement for the Top 50 schools that paced into biglaw.

Loyola placed 10.9% into biglaw last year, while UIUC placed 17.9% last year.

So, honestly, I think it really just comes down to where you get more money. Neither school will get you biglaw outside Chicago. But a nice scholarship from LUC, and I could definitely see someone going there over UIUC, especially with the new mess they put themselves in.

Hope that helped.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby givemea170 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:30 am

rma wrote:http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202483173162

The link gives biglaw placement for the Top 50 schools that paced into biglaw.

Loyola placed 10.9% into biglaw last year, while UIUC placed 17.9% last year.

So, honestly, I think it really just comes down to where you get more money. Neither school will get you biglaw outside Chicago. But a nice scholarship from LUC, and I could definitely see someone going there over UIUC, especially with the new mess they put themselves in.

Hope that helped.


Thanks. I really appreciate that link. Bookmarked it.

I definitely want to live in Chicago for the next three years. Champaign is not bad but it isn't Chicago and even though it is only a few hours away it will feel like forever. The cost of living in Chicago sucks but I have a much bigger scholarship if I land in Chicago than Champaign and I'm not getting in state so I may just have to turn the Illini down.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby station4 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:56 am

For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby JG7773 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:45 am

station4 wrote:For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.


This was true last year. LUC has a reputation for being stingy with the scholarship funds, but loose with the stipulations. I went back to last year's thread and they also mentioned that LUC did not negotiate.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby rma » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:36 pm

JG7773 wrote:
station4 wrote:For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.


This was true last year. LUC has a reputation for being stingy with the scholarship funds, but loose with the stipulations. I went back to last year's thread and they also mentioned that LUC did not negotiate.


Ahh... damn.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby CPM723 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:01 pm

rma wrote:
JG7773 wrote:
station4 wrote:For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.


This was true last year. LUC has a reputation for being stingy with the scholarship funds, but loose with the stipulations. I went back to last year's thread and they also mentioned that LUC did not negotiate.


Ahh... damn.


Can't hurt to try, though!

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby JG7773 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:02 pm

rma wrote:
JG7773 wrote:
station4 wrote:For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.


This was true last year. LUC has a reputation for being stingy with the scholarship funds, but loose with the stipulations. I went back to last year's thread and they also mentioned that LUC did not negotiate.


Ahh... damn.


I hear ya. I ran some numbers on my personal situation for LUC vs DePaul (with 15k, 7500, and 0). When viewing LUC vs DePaul (7500), it is a matter of roughly $1,900 a year difference in favor of DePaul. Still a dissapointment that they don't negotiate, but still not a bad deal when compared to a 7500 @ DePaul.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby rma » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:27 pm

JG7773 wrote:
rma wrote:
JG7773 wrote:
station4 wrote:For what it is worth, I was admitted to LUC with $12,000/year. I sent them an email asking if some additional merit aid would be available at some future point in the admissions process. I received a reply stating they don't negotiate. This may not be true for all people, since I know schools will tell some people they negotiate and others they don't (or won't), but I thought it was kind of a bummer.


This was true last year. LUC has a reputation for being stingy with the scholarship funds, but loose with the stipulations. I went back to last year's thread and they also mentioned that LUC did not negotiate.


Ahh... damn.


I hear ya. I ran some numbers on my personal situation for LUC vs DePaul (with 15k, 7500, and 0). When viewing LUC vs DePaul (7500), it is a matter of roughly $1,900 a year difference in favor of DePaul. Still a dissapointment that they don't negotiate, but still not a bad deal when compared to a 7500 @ DePaul.


I have 15k at DePaul, so it'd be about a $9-10k difference.

Still, I prefer LUC over DePaul, even at the price. Kent is more generous with the scholarship $$, so hopefully I'll hear from them soon. A nice package from them would indeed make this decision difficult.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby JG7773 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:31 pm

rma wrote:
I have 15k at DePaul, so it'd be about a $9-10k difference.

Still, I prefer LUC over DePaul, even at the price. Kent is more generous with the scholarship $$, so hopefully I'll hear from them soon. A nice package from them would indeed make this decision difficult.


I am in the same boat. I have a 15k offer from DePaul (but ran the 7,500 to be realistic just in case I don't end up in the top 40%) and I am still waiting on Chicago-Kent.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby Bradlo722 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:36 pm

rma wrote:
CPM723 wrote:
rma wrote:
CPM723 wrote:Finally checked my mail today- 6K a year with the 2.0 stip. I'm pretty pumped :D


Congrats!

If I don't hear anything from them soon, looks like I will go into negotiation mode.

Wish me luck!


You may not hear from them until this week. I only live a few hours from Chicago and it still took 4 days to get to me!


I'm not expecting anything because as I mentioned earlier, there is nothing listed under mailings for me.

That being said, I'll probably wait until March, and if i don't hear anything I'll try to negotiate then.


I don't have anything in my mailings either. Do you think that means we won't be getting anything?

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby givemea170 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:42 pm

Did anyone send a Why LUC essay? I didn't do it but I"m about to do it to make sure they don't yield protect on me like a few other schools did!

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby JG7773 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:48 pm

givemea170 wrote:Did anyone send a Why LUC essay? I didn't do it but I"m about to do it to make sure they don't yield protect on me like a few other schools did!


I sent one. Not sure how much is helped, but in your case it may not hurt.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby CPM723 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:49 pm

givemea170 wrote:Did anyone send a Why LUC essay? I didn't do it but I"m about to do it to make sure they don't yield protect on me like a few other schools did!


I sent one, but i'm not sure if it's required.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby rma » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:09 pm

givemea170 wrote:Did anyone send a Why LUC essay? I didn't do it but I"m about to do it to make sure they don't yield protect on me like a few other schools did!


I'd send one. Someone earlier in the thread visited the school an indicated that they seemed to value them quite a bit.

You may get in anyway, but why take the risk? Writing one took me about 20 minutes.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby sbuzz » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:26 pm

I'd say given your situation, if you are serious about wanting to go to Loyola, definitely do it. You should have plenty of good reasons to use if you really like the school. I had many, but chose to focus on just a handful in detail in order to be more effective. I would assume it would certainly help with the whole yield protection aspect if they see you've taken the time to write the optional essay and can provide them with well-thought out reasons for why you'd choose them given your numbers.

Good luck to you!

On another note, has anyone tried to negotiate scholarship amount yet?

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby givemea170 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:48 pm

sbuzz wrote:I'd say given your situation, if you are serious about wanting to go to Loyola, definitely do it. You should have plenty of good reasons to use if you really like the school. I had many, but chose to focus on just a handful in detail in order to be more effective. I would assume it would certainly help with the whole yield protection aspect if they see you've taken the time to write the optional essay and can provide them with well-thought out reasons for why you'd choose them given your numbers.

Good luck to you!

On another note, has anyone tried to negotiate scholarship amount yet?


Not that I would copy anything you wrote, but do you mind letting me see your LUC? I seem to write a lot better when I have an example. If not, that is cool.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby CPM723 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:04 pm

Just RSVPed to the Discover Loyola day on March 17th!

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby magr33n » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:31 pm

This morning I got an email from the school inviting me to two upcoming events. the Discover Loyola event on March 17th and a Merit Scholarship Recipients Reception the night before on March 16th. I haven't received any financial aid information other than my in my original packet where they said scholarships would be sent out in March. I was wondering if everybody received the same invite, or if this was an early indicator that I should expect some sort of scholarship offer.

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby rma » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:47 pm

magr33n wrote:This morning I got an email from the school inviting me to two upcoming events. the Discover Loyola event on March 17th and a Merit Scholarship Recipients Reception the night before on March 16th. I haven't received any financial aid information other than my in my original packet where they said scholarships would be sent out in March. I was wondering if everybody received the same invite, or if this was an early indicator that I should expect some sort of scholarship offer.


I received an email invite for the 17th, but not the scholarship thing.

So I'm guessing that is a good sign for you...

And a terrible sign for me... :cry:

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Re: Loyola Chicago 2011-2012 cycle

Postby checkster » Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:47 pm

rma wrote:
magr33n wrote:This morning I got an email from the school inviting me to two upcoming events. the Discover Loyola event on March 17th and a Merit Scholarship Recipients Reception the night before on March 16th. I haven't received any financial aid information other than my in my original packet where they said scholarships would be sent out in March. I was wondering if everybody received the same invite, or if this was an early indicator that I should expect some sort of scholarship offer.


I received an email invite for the 17th, but not the scholarship thing.

So I'm guessing that is a good sign for you...

And a terrible sign for me... :cry:


Same boat.




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