gatorlaw wrote: gatorlaw wrote: tennisking88 wrote:
gatorlaw wrote:Well, yeah. A 3.2 is REALLY high in law school, a lot of people don't recognize that. I'm glad I have MS because it comes with a 3.0 stip instead.
Ehh, I don't want to judge the aforementioned guy but I doubt my GPA would ever fall below a 3.0...or below a 3.2 for that matter. Maybe so at Yale Law, but probably not at Miami. I'm not saying UMiami isn't difficult, but generally speaking, a smaller portion of that class will be realistically vying for the A's.
A lot of 1Ls on TLS would shake their heads at this. Just because GPA/LSAT are good predictors of first year performance does not in any way mean it will be as thus.
No, I know. I'm not assuming that high undergrad GPAs or LSATs indefinitely translate into high law school GPAs, but one could argue that somebody with a 4.0 at a "difficult" undergrad where glade inflation is almost nonexistent, has cultivated a degree of work ethic that perhaps will give him/her a leg up. I know many 2 point somethings that are admitted to UMiami who have low GPAs simply because they just don't work hard enough, not because they aren't intelligent. One could argue that the lack of work ethic might be what does them in in law school, provided they don't change.
This sounds like it makes sense, and its what I used to think. Then I talked to a bunch of 1 and 2L's from various schools and they made me understand why this way of thinking can get you in trouble.
Basically, it all starts with the way you get graded. One paper. 4 hours. Thats your whole semester grade. No chance to try to bump your grade up, added stress knowing you have no idea how you're even doing until you take that test. And most importantly they tell me, you have no opportunity to learn how your professors grade and what they look for. So its really a bigger gamble.
I also hear that at more regional and lesser ranked schools competition can actually be stiffer because there is added pressure to rise to the top. At T14 you can graduate middle of the road and have really great job prospects, at T5 you pretty much just need the degree to at least find work. But middle of the road won't cut it at UM, especially not in this market, and especially if you're looking for a top job.
It basically came down to the same point. That its a mistake to assume that because you were really successfully in undergrad, you will excel in law school. The way of thinking is way different than what you've faced. You are literally being trained to think like a lawyer, and some people take to it more intuitively than others.
All that being said. If a scholly at UM is all you have, then take it. But sticker at any T14 is better than a full ride with that stip. I would hate to know I turned down Vandy and G'town and have to maybe pay sticker at UM for 2 and 3L if tat stip ends up biting me in the ass.