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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Happy Endings » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:18 pm

So...uh...a man walks into a bar (corny beginning of a joke *ice breaker*) LOL :P

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby skers » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:19 pm

Cornelius wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:That's not what Jen was trying to argue. She's just saying there are other things aside from placement and ranking that might drive someone to attend Fordham. For those who don't get CN Fordham is the best choice for those who want to attend a school in NYC.

Not entirely, but yes, the last sentence is true.

People just need to remember not to get defensive about others candidly discussing a school's employment prospects/comparing it to other schools just because they attend that school. It's great to be enthusiastic and praise the school you attend, but let's be open to honest discussions that are pertinent to everyone's cycle and evetual decision. My saying that most of the T14 places better in NY than Fordham does not mean I hate Fordham, nor does it mean that there are no valid reasons to attend Fordham if you got into a better school. It means exactly what I said, no more and no less.


Na bro. She's not getting defensive. You're just being obtuse. Let me delineate things for you. Someone asked why someone would want to attend Fordham over a t14. Jen reminded people that choosing a law school goes beyond placement and the desire to stay in NYC, not uproot an SO so they can keep a great job, and not paying for two separate homes could be reason for an individual above and beyond placement and ranking. Your response is wharbagarbrlPLACEMENT, which is completely irrelevant to her point. You're trying to respond to AMD and Jen with one argument when they're making two different points, though AMD's point that a top 1/3 Fordham grad places better than 1/3 CCNP in NYC is inaccurate.

Congrats to all Fordham admits, however.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:21 pm

TemporarySaint wrote:Na bro. She's not getting defensive. You're just being obtuse. Let me delineate things for you. Someone asked why someone would want to attend Fordham over a t14. Jen reminded people that choosing a law school goes beyond placement and the desire to stay in NYC, not uproot an SO so they can keep a great job, and not paying for two separate homes could be reason for an individual above and beyond placement and ranking. Your response is wharbagarbrlPLACEMENT, which is completely irrelevant to her point. You're trying to respond to AMD and Jen with one argument when they're making two different points, though AMD's point that a top 1/3 Fordham grad places better than 1/3 CCNP in NYC is inaccurate.

Congrats to all Fordham admits, however.

Right. I think the posts speak for themselves, and you appear to have missed a number of them. For example, THIS is the post I initially responded to (with a subtle joke, no less):
AMD wrote:Do you believe that Fordham places better in NY than these 11 in this economy?
Georgetown, Michigan, Cornell, NYU, Columbia, HYS, Chicago, Northwestern or Penn

Also note that it was she who responded to me, not me responding to her (or even referencing her original "other factors" post at all). Then there was the "I'm going to insult your counting ability and reading comprehension even though I'm the one not comprehending."

Enough of this nonsense please.
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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Happy Endings » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:23 pm

YES....i guess my corny beginning line above didn't help ice the fire. Since I am a California resident....I am forced to use this: "Can't we all just get along??" lol :P

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby moneybagsphd » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:24 pm

TemporarySaint wrote:
Cornelius wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:That's not what Jen was trying to argue. She's just saying there are other things aside from placement and ranking that might drive someone to attend Fordham. For those who don't get CN Fordham is the best choice for those who want to attend a school in NYC.

Not entirely, but yes, the last sentence is true.

People just need to remember not to get defensive about others candidly discussing a school's employment prospects/comparing it to other schools just because they attend that school. It's great to be enthusiastic and praise the school you attend, but let's be open to honest discussions that are pertinent to everyone's cycle and evetual decision. My saying that most of the T14 places better in NY than Fordham does not mean I hate Fordham, nor does it mean that there are no valid reasons to attend Fordham if you got into a better school. It means exactly what I said, no more and no less.


Na bro. She's not getting defensive. You're just being obtuse. Let me delineate things for you. Someone asked why someone would want to attend Fordham over a t14. Jen reminded people that choosing a law school goes beyond placement and the desire to stay in NYC, not uproot an SO so they can keep a great job, and not paying for two separate homes could be reason for an individual above and beyond placement and ranking. Your response is wharbagarbrlPLACEMENT, which is completely irrelevant to her point. You're trying to respond to AMD and Jen with one argument when they're making two different points, though AMD's point that a top 1/3 Fordham grad places better than 1/3 CCNP in NYC is inaccurate.

Congrats to all Fordham admits, however.

You should make a flow chart, bro.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:35 pm

moneybagsphd wrote:You should make a flow chart, bro.

This thread could use a flow chart at this point.
Happy Endings wrote:YES....i guess my corny beginning line above didn't help ice the fire. Since I am a California resident....I am forced to use this: "Can't we all just get along??" lol :P

Pffft, hippie. :lol:

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby NYC Law » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:37 pm

What happened in here?

Fordham is a T30. It's a good T30, along with BU/BC, but it is a T30.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby B986 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:38 pm

First time poster here. Can this debate end now, please? So much of deciding where to attend law school, or any grad program, is about personal preference and related factors. Therefore, telling someone why they are wrong or right to feel a certain way about particular schools is an utterly worthless exercise, not to mention a rather annoying one for those on the side lines (no offense). Let's all move on, pretty please?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JenDarby » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:40 pm

Happy Endings wrote:YES....i guess my corny beginning line above didn't help ice the fire. Since I am a California resident....I am forced to use this: "Can't we all just get along??" lol :P

A fair amount of my friends/sectionmates are from CA, Gotti and I included. You will fit right in.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Happy Endings » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:55 pm

Currently waitlisted since 12/1. I would love to be a part of the Fordham community. I love the program. I think the admissions staff have been incredibly helpful and informative. The Fordham students have been amazingly available on this thread. Lastly, although at times it has been chippy as of late and maybe even a little negative, we have to expect and respect the diverse opinions on this thread (which makes for lively debates :P )

Congrats to all accepted...enjoy it!! Hopefully I will hear good news, as well and make it out to ASW!!
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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Gemini » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:02 pm

JenDarby wrote:
Killingly wrote:
Jen Darby wrote:To argue that higher ranked schools in NY place better than Fordham in NY does not address the initial inquiry. I hope you guys end up somewhere where LRW isn't graded.


You sound mad. And kind of rude.

Not mad at all, and I am generally known for my niceness. Good luck.


Is it weird that I thought Killingly said "you sound mad and kind of CUTE?"

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Gotti » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:06 pm

mpern wrote:Just got into Fordham. Hate to be another downer on what should be a celebratory thread, but I also just read this article from today's NYTimes:
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Does this bother anyone else? Not only does Fordham refuse to provide contraception in their health care plans, but they are doing everything they can to delay implementation of the new health care law... Kinda makes me question the values of the school.

Yeah it's pretty wack, but I'm with JD on this one...I am never "unpleasantly" reminded that Fordham is a strict Catholic school.

One of the organizations at school sponsored a health event right next to campus where doctors gave out free prescriptions in response to Fordham students who have Fordham health care not being able to get a birth control prescription. I'm sure there will be more events like this one.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Gemini » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:07 pm

Also, I really, really want Happy Endings to get in. Admissions Committee sometimes looks through these threads. So maybe you should post your numbers out there for them to see. :)


Also, please keep in mind that the mindset at Fordham Law is VERY different from the mindset of the undergrad. Different people running each school.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Dislaw » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:10 pm

How soon after being Waitlisted do you think we should send a LOCI?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Gotti » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:12 pm

NYC Law wrote:What happened in here?

Fordham is a T30. It's a good T30, along with BU/BC, but it is a T30.

word.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Gotti » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:12 pm

Dislaw wrote:How soon after being Waitlisted do you think we should send a LOCI?

Probably right away?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JenDarby » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:16 pm

Dislaw wrote:How soon after being Waitlisted do you think we should send a LOCI?

Right away, as you can always update later if relevant things arise.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Dislaw » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:20 pm

JenDarby wrote:
Dislaw wrote:How soon after being Waitlisted do you think we should send a LOCI?

Right away, as you can always update later if relevant things arise.

Gotti wrote:
Dislaw wrote:How soon after being Waitlisted do you think we should send a LOCI?

Probably right away?



Thanks, that's what I was thinking. Just don't wanna seem like I'm pestering the AdComms. I'll get on that LOCI right now.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby James Bond » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:34 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
JenDarby wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:The point is that some top 14 schools DO place better than Fordham in NYC. And if given the opportunity to attend a top 14, you should take it, unless ( like you) have reasons not to leave NYC


JenDarby wrote:I don't really see the strength in making a point that Fordham might not place better than other schools in NY that are higher ranked.


Better employment prospects, better networking, higher salary, getting in with a more prestigious law firm...


Really? Columbia and NYU have better employment prospects with top firms, better networking, higher salary, etc. compared to Fordham? You don't say...

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby freaknroll » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:40 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby 20130312 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:41 pm

Gemini wrote:Is it weird that I thought Killingly said "you sound mad and kind of CUTE?"


That works. I think it's cute when girls get mad.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Happy Endings » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:45 pm

Gemini wrote:Also, I really, really want Happy Endings to get in. Admissions Committee sometimes looks through these threads. So maybe you should post your numbers out there for them to see. :)



Gemini, that is really kind of you to say!! Unfortunately, I don't feel my numbers reflect positively on my candidacy :oops: ...I'm hoping my 3yrs of professional work experience at the U.N. and other soft factors (ie personal experiences and sincere LOCI, LORs etc) paint a better picture of not only my character and drive, but also my ability to succeed in law school and find potential employment afterwards . Either way, thank you for the nice words of encouragement. If the AdComms are looking at these threads...then let me first apologize for my corny attempts of humor above :P

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Killingly » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:49 pm

Gemini wrote:
JenDarby wrote:
Killingly wrote:
Jen Darby wrote:To argue that higher ranked schools in NY place better than Fordham in NY does not address the initial inquiry. I hope you guys end up somewhere where LRW isn't graded.


You sound mad. And kind of rude.

Not mad at all, and I am generally known for my niceness. Good luck.


Is it weird that I thought Killingly said "you sound mad and kind of CUTE?"


Hah. While I am forever alone, I don't dip into the lady pond, hehe.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JenDarby » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:53 pm

I like to think of myself as more of a stream, but that's neither here nor there

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:55 pm

Killingly wrote:Hah. While I am forever alone, I don't dip into the lady pond, hehe.

JenDarby wrote:I like to think of myself as more of a stream, but that's neither here nor there

I'm not even sure how to feel about this. Should I be turned on?




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