Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Wily » Mon May 21, 2012 3:25 pm

Just got off the waitlist by phone call!

Fordham is the school I was praying to get into, because I want to work in NYC after LS, but I'm not sure if I can go. GW is offering me a lot more money than the, well, nothing, that Fordham is offering me. Fordham said they have no more merit scholarship money left, at least for me.

Have any of you been able to get NEED-based financial aid from Fordham? If so, how much? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Mon May 21, 2012 3:31 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JCFindley » Mon May 21, 2012 3:35 pm

Wily wrote:Just got off the waitlist by phone call!

Fordham is the school I was praying to get into, because I want to work in NYC after LS, but I'm not sure if I can go. GW is offering me a lot more money than the, well, nothing, that Fordham is offering me. Fordham said they have no more merit scholarship money left, at least for me.

Have any of you been able to get NEED-based financial aid from Fordham? If so, how much? Thanks in advance.


I don't know the answer to your question but CONGRATS on getting off the wait list..... Now get on the phone and start finding out about the need based aid.....

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby FakeHubieBrown » Mon May 21, 2012 3:50 pm

Hey dingbat, would you mind providing us with the breakdown of the money you received? And what were your numbers? How was the negotiation process? Thanks!


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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Mon May 21, 2012 3:51 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 12:00 am

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JCFindley » Tue May 22, 2012 7:25 am

dingbat wrote:90


ROFLMAO, yupp....

Just don't think I am going to have the time to finish writing the book I wanted to get done.....

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Munchkin318 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:22 am

Oh god, I just got back from vacation to find a voicemail from Fordham just saying to call back. I have been calling religiously all morning but no answer yet! I am trying to remain calm but just want to know why they called! Fellow WLer here...

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby rkh235 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:32 am

Munchkin318 wrote:Oh god, I just got back from vacation to find a voicemail from Fordham just saying to call back. I have been calling religiously all morning but no answer yet! I am trying to remain calm but just want to know why they called! Fellow WLer here...



damn fordham law is making calls already? isnt that early for the cycle- i thought calls are made closer to the end of the cycle.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby rkh235 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:32 am

Wily wrote:Just got off the waitlist by phone call!

Fordham is the school I was praying to get into, because I want to work in NYC after LS, but I'm not sure if I can go. GW is offering me a lot more money than the, well, nothing, that Fordham is offering me. Fordham said they have no more merit scholarship money left, at least for me.

Have any of you been able to get NEED-based financial aid from Fordham? If so, how much? Thanks in advance.



Wily how long did they give you to decide?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 22, 2012 11:39 am

Anyone else notice Fordham is both arrogant and stingy with requests for $$$? Makes you wonder if they're too quick on the uptake w/ respect to law school costs and the legal market...

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 11:40 am

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 22, 2012 11:41 am

rkh235 wrote:
Munchkin318 wrote:Oh god, I just got back from vacation to find a voicemail from Fordham just saying to call back. I have been calling religiously all morning but no answer yet! I am trying to remain calm but just want to know why they called! Fellow WLer here...



damn fordham law is making calls already? isnt that early for the cycle- i thought calls are made closer to the end of the cycle.


Fordham might be experiencing lower than expected yield.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 11:43 am

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby rkh235 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:47 am

hwo can i put it nicely to fordham that i'll attend regardless of the lack of aid? (still waitlisted, drafting a 2nd LOCI at the moment)

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 22, 2012 11:53 am

dingbat wrote:
manofjustice wrote:Anyone else notice Fordham is both arrogant and stingy with requests for $$$? Makes you wonder if they're too quick on the uptake w/ respect to law school costs and the legal market...

Arrogant - not really; arrogant is to assume you should get money
Stingy - yes, they have less money to give out than some other schools and they just spent $500 million on a new building

Keep in mind that most schools have more or less run out of scholly money at this point, so anyone accepted anywhere is gonna have a tough time negotiating

Also, if you got accepted off the WL, you are a marginal candidate, so why should they give you money?
(not to say they don't, plenty of people get money off the WL)


I am focusing in on the candidate who is offered money at peer or superior schools but not at Fordham.

Any by the way, why is Fordham spending 500 million (500 million!!!???) on a new building? Is that the proper thing to do when law school costs are spiraling out of control? Shouldn't that 500 million be used to fund scholarships for qualified candidates?

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 12:14 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby sdphill » Tue May 22, 2012 12:18 pm

manofjustice wrote:I am focusing in on the candidate who is offered money at peer or superior schools but not at Fordham.

Any by the way, why is Fordham spending 500 million (500 million!!!???) on a new building? Is that the proper thing to do when law school costs are spiraling out of control? Shouldn't that 500 million be used to fund scholarships for qualified candidates?


They may have been given donations that have stipulations... Some donors require that their monies go to specific causes such as building a new building or scholarship, etc.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Wily » Tue May 22, 2012 12:35 pm

rkh235 wrote:
Wily wrote:Just got off the waitlist by phone call!

Fordham is the school I was praying to get into, because I want to work in NYC after LS, but I'm not sure if I can go. GW is offering me a lot more money than the, well, nothing, that Fordham is offering me. Fordham said they have no more merit scholarship money left, at least for me.

Have any of you been able to get NEED-based financial aid from Fordham? If so, how much? Thanks in advance.



Wily how long did they give you to decide?


June 1.

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 12:54 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby manofjustice » Tue May 22, 2012 1:01 pm

dingbat wrote:
manofjustice wrote:I am focusing in on the candidate who is offered money at peer or superior schools but not at Fordham.

Any by the way, why is Fordham spending 500 million (500 million!!!???) on a new building? Is that the proper thing to do when law school costs are spiraling out of control? Shouldn't that 500 million be used to fund scholarships for qualified candidates?

Whyshould they?
For a long time Fordham didn't give out merit scholarships at all, only need based.
It's only recently that rankings pressure has led them to start bribing students to come.
Do you think they would have empty classes without scholarships? They'd still fill up. Merit schollys are used purely to buy a higher average LSAT/GPA, which has become thè new standard for law schools, but is kinda ridiculous if you think about it (my money says if all schools stopped doing that, the rankings would remain more or less the same)
Obviously, they find that getting a new building is more important that bribing more students and possibly climbing from being ranked 29 to being ranked 27.
Fordham is, was, and will be 3rd best in NYC and thè best shot at NY biglaw outside the T14.


They should offer aid to qualified applicants (this is a controversial position?) because the cost of law school has increased far beyond inflation, completely out of proportion to the opportunity most law schools, including Fordham, afford. Why should they? Because if they don't, the majority of Fordham law students, which doesn't get jobs paying the NYC market rate, will drown in debt for the rest of their lives. Is that a good enough reason?
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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 1:22 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 1:35 pm

Please note: I was in a bad mood today.
I apologise for anything I said that was in the wrong tone.
Please don't take anything the wrong way

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby dingbat » Tue May 22, 2012 1:39 pm

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Re: Fordham c/o 2015/16 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stillwater » Tue May 22, 2012 1:42 pm

Well isn't this a trainwreck and a half.




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