Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jdwishes » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:32 pm

I'm renting a home in the vicinity of the campus (1k/month). The homes are older and smaller, but convenient to the campus. Yes, Gulfview is right across the main road of campus. From those I've spoken to, they are nice and much more modern. I've heard Gulfview goes for approx. $1200+ so some students opt for a roommate. I've also heard it can get busy/noisey there, so something to consider - whether you prefer a more social atmosphere or quieter one.
beauTfully_free wrote:It's okay....Where do you live/where would you suggest living for a 1L? I heard Gulfview Condos are right across the street and Stetson owns Rosa Apartments as well which I would assume to be pretty upkept and affordable

jdwishes wrote:Wish I could help with your question, but I don't know. I have a good friend who works in financial advising, and he does well (lots of clients and traveling throughout the greater area), but I hardly have the requisite knowledge to speak on the general market here. Sorry.

CONGRATS to the others on their schollys! Way to go! Tough decisions ahead in choosing the right school, but a good problem to have!

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jdwishes wrote:Stetson 1L here if anyone has any questions...


What do you know about the job market in the Tampa/St. Petersburg area in general? I'm relocating from Washington D.C. and my boyfriend will be moving with me to law school as long as he finds a job in finance....

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jessuf » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:20 pm

cutecarmel wrote:Do you know anything about/anyone who has participated in the JD/Grado Dual Degree in Spain?
Or about the language development program (the one that involves Rosetta Stone)?

How are job prospects for graduates (if you know)? I know Stetson is a regional school and it might be tough to get jobs out of state, but are job prospects decent for at least inside of the Tampa area?

jdwishes wrote:Stetson 1L here if anyone has any questions...


Go to http://www.nalplawschoolsonline.org and look up Stetson for job placement info.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jessuf » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:31 pm

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Postby jessuf » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:41 pm

And for places to live, a lot of students live in Pasadena/Treasure Island area and love it. Gulfport is dreary and old. However, Pasadena and Treasure Island are close, have beaches, and have some good bars and restaurants.

Also, I'm sure half of the 1L class lives at Golfview. Seems like an easy way to meet people.

I personally live in downtown. Though I like it here, I personally would prefer to live in the old northeast. It's a little further from Stetson, but it's affordable, safe, and cute.
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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Dash41 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:52 pm

I just applied. Really hoping to get a full ride. How long do you guys think it will take to get a decision back

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cutecarmel » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:39 pm

I got a full ride, but I applied early in the application cycle and heard back right before the holidays.
Good luck.

Dash41 wrote:I just applied. Really hoping to get a full ride. How long do you guys think it will take to get a decision back

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cutecarmel » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:07 pm

Hey, for those of you all who are also seriously considering Stetson, I was wondering what you all think about the idea that if you don't get into a T14 school, you might as well not go to law school. I mean, Stetson is a TTT (practically TT) school, but its Trial Advocacy program ranks 1st in the nation, and the Legal Writing ranks 3rd (or 5th, I forget). I get frustrated reading posts that basically say your life will suck if you go to a TT or TTT school, but real life has shown me that where you go to school is not really important.

I'm basically wondering how confident you all feel/ would feel about your decision to go Stetson.



(sorry if this is not posted in the correct forum...if it is, don't freak out on me, just kindly say something and I'll remove it. Thx)

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby goldenflash19 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:27 pm

^It all depends on what you want out of law school. If you want big law, then Stetson obviously isn't your choice. If your goals are more intrinsic, or you want a job as a prosecutor/pd, then a scholly to Stetson can definitely be a rational decision because you will graduate w/ no debt and will have your best job prospects in a beautiful and warm region. It's a tough call that will drastically shape the rest of your life and something I'm currently struggling with. If I decide to go to Stetson, I think I'd be confident that the networking I'd do even as a snowbird, coupled with Stetson's strong regional rep, would allow me to find a career I'd love (If this is wrong, someone please correct me!).

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby skirkland » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:43 pm

goldenflash19 wrote:^It all depends on what you want out of law school. If you want big law, then Stetson obviously isn't your choice. If your goals are more intrinsic, or you want a job as a prosecutor/pd, then a scholly to Stetson can definitely be a rational decision because you will graduate w/ no debt and will have your best job prospects in a beautiful and warm region. It's a tough call that will drastically shape the rest of your life and something I'm currently struggling with. If I decide to go to Stetson, I think I'd be confident that the networking I'd do even as a snowbird, coupled with Stetson's strong regional rep, would allow me to find a career I'd love (If this is wrong, someone please correct me!).



I'm struggling with this as well. I have awesome scholarships for T1 law schools, but the free ride at Stetson is very tempting. I liked Tampa when I visited and it seems like my husband could get a job there pretty easily. There is so much to consider and it can be very frustrating.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby weatherswaysme » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:50 pm

cutecarmel wrote:Hey, for those of you all who are also seriously considering Stetson, I was wondering what you all think about the idea that if you don't get into a T14 school, you might as well not go to law school. I mean, Stetson is a TTT (practically TT) school, but its Trial Advocacy program ranks 1st in the nation, and the Legal Writing ranks 3rd (or 5th, I forget). I get frustrated reading posts that basically say your life will suck if you go to a TT or TTT school, but real life has shown me that where you go to school is not really important.

I'm basically wondering how confident you all feel/ would feel about your decision to go Stetson.



(sorry if this is not posted in the correct forum...if it is, don't freak out on me, just kindly say something and I'll remove it. Thx)


I value my health. Working 16 hour days, 7 days a week isn't for me. Like you say, where you go to school isn't that important... unless you are looking for slavelaw. I feel pretty good about possibly attending. I like the weather there, its a beautiful place, and it has a good reputation in Florida. The people I talked to from Florida basically feel like Stetson>Miami, and after visiting both schools I feel the same way. The quality of life at Stetson seemed great. Idk, like everything, it comes down to a personal decision of what you really want out of life. Any school that has warm weather, a good reputation, and an outdoor swimming pool in the middle of campus is high on my list haha 8)

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby beauTfully_free » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:18 am

weatherswaysme wrote:
cutecarmel wrote:Hey, for those of you all who are also seriously considering Stetson, I was wondering what you all think about the idea that if you don't get into a T14 school, you might as well not go to law school. I mean, Stetson is a TTT (practically TT) school, but its Trial Advocacy program ranks 1st in the nation, and the Legal Writing ranks 3rd (or 5th, I forget). I get frustrated reading posts that basically say your life will suck if you go to a TT or TTT school, but real life has shown me that where you go to school is not really important.

I'm basically wondering how confident you all feel/ would feel about your decision to go Stetson.



(sorry if this is not posted in the correct forum...if it is, don't freak out on me, just kindly say something and I'll remove it. Thx)


This past summer I attended the Legal Education Access Program at John Marshall in Chicago and they gave us the best advice from lawyers about the whole T14 debate. The bottom line is whatever law school you graduate from only matters for your FIRST job after you graduate (and pass the bar of course.) After that first job, firms and employers won't give a damn what law school you graduated from they won't even look at that. They look at your performance from that first job you had.

You could graduate from Harvard, do a shitty job at a big-law firm and then struggle to get a promotion or work your way up. Or you could graduate from a T4 maybe start off at a smaller firm, build an excellent reputation and go from there. Personally, I want to be a prosecutor so Stetson is the perfect fit for me. Miami was my first choice for awhile but for superficial reasons. Worry more about how much debt you are acquiring and how much of it you can cover with that first job- more so for people without scholarships.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Prospect » Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:48 pm

Might have ran into a problem here guys, any input is appreciated. I submitted my app on the 8th of January and received an e-mail from LSAC stating that they have received and processed my app package for stetson, blah blah and have heard nothing back since. Nothing from Stetson stating they got it or any info for a status checker, nothing. Now what?

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Postby seancris » Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:52 pm

I applied on Jan 3rd or so. 4.0/163. I've been pretty unimpressed with the way Stetson has handled the admissions process so far, tbh. As Propsect has commented, it took Stetson like a week and a half to even send me my status checker password, and in that email they also mention that applicants will be notified via email of a decision "within 1-2 business days" of their decision. It shouldn't take two business days to send an automated email. Earlier in the cycle Stetson also offered me a fee waiver and stated that it would be a "minimum of six weeks" before I would recieve a decision, when I had already recieved admits from higher ranked schools within a much shorter time period.

I feel like Stetson is going out of their way to make applicants wait/feel unimportant. Meh.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby beauTfully_free » Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:46 pm

seancris wrote:I applied on Jan 3rd or so. 4.0/163. I've been pretty unimpressed with the way Stetson has handled the admissions process so far, tbh. As Propsect has commented, it took Stetson like a week and a half to even send me my status checker password, and in that email they also mention that applicants will be notified via email of a decision "within 1-2 business days" of their decision. It shouldn't take two business days to send an automated email. Earlier in the cycle Stetson also offered me a fee waiver and stated that it would be a "minimum of six weeks" before I would recieve a decision, when I had already recieved admits from higher ranked schools within a much shorter time period.

I feel like Stetson is going out of their way to make applicants wait/feel unimportant. Meh.
Prospect wrote:Might have ran into a problem here guys, any input is appreciated. I submitted my app on the 8th of January and received an e-mail from LSAC stating that they have received and processed my app package for stetson, blah blah and have heard nothing back since. Nothing from Stetson stating they got it or any info for a status checker, nothing. Now what?


You both have applied at a point in the cycle when they are receiving a very heavy load of admissions so honestly they are probably doing the best they can. I applied in Oct, got my email the next morning with the status checker and password and was admitted I believe 2 or 3 weeks later because I applied early in the cycle. Right now there are a lot of undergrads especially applying during their winter break and people who are waiting for their Dec LSAT scores...since you two fall into that category just be patient. :D If you're really anxious though it never hurts to call!

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cutecarmel » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:35 pm

I think you all have too high expectations for any law school's admissions process. You guys are complaining after what, 2 weeks? You applied very late and that is why you haven't heard anything back yet. And you don't even need the status checker for the first weeks because they are just receiving your application and materials, and probably haven't even glanced at the app yet.

You probably got admits from higher ranked schools because they only care about numbers. Stetson's admission officers actually read every part of your application and they still have applications from people who applied in Dec. that they didn't get through before the break. Also, they have filled spots already, so are going to be more selective now, which takes more time.

I don't mean to be harsh, but I really think that both of you guys are just being really impatient, especially considering you only applied 2 weeks ago. Admissions at Stetson is BY FAR the best I have seen. They have gone out of their way to help me with things that it is not their job to help me with. I waited 4 MONTHS (not days, not weeks, MONTHS) to hear back from a T1 school, so please try to be patient.

If you are really anxious, call Laura or Darren from admissions. They are the nicest people you'll ever meet. But seriously, just chill out.


seancris wrote:I applied on Jan 3rd or so. 4.0/163. I've been pretty unimpressed with the way Stetson has handled the admissions process so far, tbh. As Propsect has commented, it took Stetson like a week and a half to even send me my status checker password, and in that email they also mention that applicants will be notified via email of a decision "within 1-2 business days" of their decision. It shouldn't take two business days to send an automated email. Earlier in the cycle Stetson also offered me a fee waiver and stated that it would be a "minimum of six weeks" before I would recieve a decision, when I had already recieved admits from higher ranked schools within a much shorter time period.

I feel like Stetson is going out of their way to make applicants wait/feel unimportant. Meh.
Prospect wrote:Might have ran into a problem here guys, any input is appreciated. I submitted my app on the 8th of January and received an e-mail from LSAC stating that they have received and processed my app package for stetson, blah blah and have heard nothing back since. Nothing from Stetson stating they got it or any info for a status checker, nothing. Now what?

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cutecarmel » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:38 pm

+1 Good point.

beauTfully_free wrote:
weatherswaysme wrote:
cutecarmel wrote:Hey, for those of you all who are also seriously considering Stetson, I was wondering what you all think about the idea that if you don't get into a T14 school, you might as well not go to law school. I mean, Stetson is a TTT (practically TT) school, but its Trial Advocacy program ranks 1st in the nation, and the Legal Writing ranks 3rd (or 5th, I forget). I get frustrated reading posts that basically say your life will suck if you go to a TT or TTT school, but real life has shown me that where you go to school is not really important.

I'm basically wondering how confident you all feel/ would feel about your decision to go Stetson.



(sorry if this is not posted in the correct forum...if it is, don't freak out on me, just kindly say something and I'll remove it. Thx)


This past summer I attended the Legal Education Access Program at John Marshall in Chicago and they gave us the best advice from lawyers about the whole T14 debate. The bottom line is whatever law school you graduate from only matters for your FIRST job after you graduate (and pass the bar of course.) After that first job, firms and employers won't give a damn what law school you graduated from they won't even look at that. They look at your performance from that first job you had.

You could graduate from Harvard, do a shitty job at a big-law firm and then struggle to get a promotion or work your way up. Or you could graduate from a T4 maybe start off at a smaller firm, build an excellent reputation and go from there. Personally, I want to be a prosecutor so Stetson is the perfect fit for me. Miami was my first choice for awhile but for superficial reasons. Worry more about how much debt you are acquiring and how much of it you can cover with that first job- more so for people without scholarships.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JerichoJohnny » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:46 pm

Is it safe to say if you were accepted in early December and haven't received any scholarship info none will be forthcoming? I don't know if I can do Stetson at sticker.

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Postby cutecarmel » Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:40 pm

No. I was accepted in October and didn't receive a scholarship until mid December. Give them time. If your numbers are competitive, you'll probably get something.

JerichoJohnny wrote:Is it safe to say if you were accepted in early December and haven't received any scholarship info none will be forthcoming? I don't know if I can do Stetson at sticker.

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Postby Prospect » Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:05 pm

Also, I've just realized that after all of the meticulous digging I've done at my PS for the past month I sent it out with a repeated sentence in a different structure, as I was deciding which one to go with. So I'm more than likely going to have to get the PS changed out before they look at this, anyone have any insight as to how I would go abou doing this?

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Postby MichNole19 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:25 pm

Prospect wrote:Also, I've just realized that after all of the meticulous digging I've done at my PS for the past month I sent it out with a repeated sentence in a different structure, as I was deciding which one to go with. So I'm more than likely going to have to get the PS changed out before they look at this, anyone have any insight as to how I would go abou doing this?


E-mail Laura- I sent her an updated copy of my resume and she quickly e-mailed me back that she had updated my file.

JerichoJohnny wrote:Is it safe to say if you were accepted in early December and haven't received any scholarship info none will be forthcoming? I don't know if I can do Stetson at sticker.


For what its worth- I was accepted on 12/5 and recieved scholarship info in Mid-December..not sure when in December when you were accepted there is still hope, I'm sure they have not sent out all the scholarship offers

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Postby bmili » Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:37 pm

I had called Stetson concerning scholarships decisions and was told the committee meets once a month to award cash. The woman I talked to seemed to indicate that not all admits were considered at each meeting and that scholarships declined by applicants would get reawarded. I didn't receive any offers and withdrew (though I was offered a free hotel if I changed my mind and visited).

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Postby cutecarmel » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:35 pm

bmili wrote:I had called Stetson concerning scholarships decisions and was told the committee meets once a month to award cash. The woman I talked to seemed to indicate that not all admits were considered at each meeting and that scholarships declined by applicants would get reawarded. I didn't receive any offers and withdrew (though I was offered a free hotel if I changed my mind and visited).


Yea, for those of you who are waiting for scholarships, Stetson does them in waves, so if you haven't heard back yet, they may not have sat down to make a new wave of decisions (I think they last sent out scholarships mid Dec)

Prospect wrote:Also, I've just realized that after all of the meticulous digging I've done at my PS for the past month I sent it out with a repeated sentence in a different structure, as I was deciding which one to go with. So I'm more than likely going to have to get the PS changed out before they look at this, anyone have any insight as to how I would go abou doing this?


Admissions at Stetson are really nice. I would email Laura or Darren and give them your second PS.

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jessuf » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:58 pm

cutecarmel wrote:Trial Advocacy program ranks 1st in the nation, and the Legal Writing ranks 3rd (or 5th, I forget).


These rankings don't matter unless you are going to be a trial lawyer. Most lawyers rarely see the courtroom. Hiring firms do not consider this ranking. Also, very few people are actually on the trial team.

cutecarmel wrote:I get frustrated reading posts that basically say your life will suck if you go to a TT or TTT school, but real life has shown me that where you go to school is not really important.


Real life in the legal field will show you that where you go to law school is actually incredibly important.

goldenflash19 wrote:If your goals are more intrinsic, or you want a job as a prosecutor/pd, then a scholly to Stetson can definitely be a rational decision because you will graduate w/ no debt and will have your best job prospects in a beautiful and warm region.


Keep in mind that government hiring is down and that there are other, better ranked schools (e.g. UF, FSU, UM) with graduates who want to be prosecutors and PDs as well. With that said, there are a lot of Stetson alumni who work as either, which means you will have good opportunities to network with them and to get honest advice from them.


skirkland wrote:I'm struggling with this as well. I have awesome scholarships for T1 law schools, but the free ride at Stetson is very tempting. I liked Tampa when I visited and it seems like my husband could get a job there pretty easily. There is so much to consider and it can be very frustrating.


I would choose T1 in a heartbeat. Even if you know that Tampa is where you want to live post-graduation, the legal market here is horrible. Not only are local law schools competing for a small number of jobs, but a lot of snowbirds from more prestigious schools want to come south and enjoy warm weather.

However, with all of that said, if you are in probably the top 5% of your class here, then you can do decently for yourself (obviously not NYC/DC salaries). There are graduates here who now have their own private jets. Nothing's impossible. There are also some pretty prestigious graduates, amazing professors, and free lunches everyday. I personally think this school is a better choice for someone already from Florida with connections who knows they want to live in Tampa forever and doesn't mind a lower salary.

And finally, keep in mind that you can't always believe things that law schools say. Sometimes it's best to hear directly from students and alumni. If any of you live in the area, there is an alumni networking event coming up. The alumni are always great about offering really candid advice (e.g. would your firm ever hire someone with my grades/background, what was your starting salary and how long did it take you to find work, etc.).

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Postby jessuf » Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:06 pm

Oh and finally, if you do decide to go to Stetson, BE PROACTIVE. TLS is an amazing resource for helping you through your first year. I learned so much stuff on here that Stetson either never told me or told me too late.

For instance:
1. Research on TLS for the best supplements for your courses and buy them at the beginning of the semester. Don't just rely on your notes and the casebook because some topics aren't fleshed out very well (especially not in class).
2. Start researching where you want to work your 1L summer during the middle of fall semester. You are allowed to start contacting firms Dec. 1. You can visit Career Development Nov. 1 for resume and cover letter help, etc. Basically apply for all internships you want asap starting Dec. 1 - firms, govt, PI, etc. OCI at Stetson is small, geared more towards 2Ls and 3Ls, and doesn't happen until the end of spring semester anyway. Figure out your 1L summer earlier!
3. Get practice exams and answers off TLS. Some professors give you only 1 practice exam (or 0 for some sections).
4. Be active on campus. Running for a leadership position of a student org is super easy here, not a lot of work, great way to meet people outside of your section, and good way to network with alums/faculty/professionals.
5. Don't wait until the last second to outline. :)

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Re: Stetson Law c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby BlueJeanBaby » Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:51 pm

How are the scholarship offers looking this year?




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