illini22 wrote:For those outside of Illinois, you should take into consideration how we place in the market that you are interested in. Also, a lot of people come in saying that they 100% want to go to X state, and then get a much better job somewhere else or change their mind for other reasons. So you may want to go to FL now, but are you sure that is going to be your position in 4 years? You may have a significant other now there, but must law school relationships dont last long.
After Illinois, we place "decent" in TX, NYC and Cali. There is also a very conscious effort with the new career service to place students outside of Chicago. The idea being that we kind of have a guarantee number of students in that market, and it will be hard for us to take market share from UC and NU, but there are other markets such as those in TX, Cali, and NYC where we have alum and dont place as many people. Since TX is actually hiring more than other markets (relative to the number of firms) there is a big push for that market. If someone here is interested there, you could contact the lone star club here, which is pretty much devoted to networking/getting jobs in texas. They did a firm visit over the winter break in Houston, and will be doing another one in Mar. 20 in Dallas, maybe you can meet them while they are down there.
Thanks for the insight I'm strongly considering UIUC as I have little UG debt. Can you expand more on the way the school is trying to expand it's presence in CA? Also how would you rate placement in non big law jobs?
I'm sure you will get an optimistic answer from illini22, but if you want the perspective of somebody from California - the school's placement in CA is pathetic. (This is coming only from the perspective of BigLaw, I don't know anything about applying for other kinds of jobs).
First of all the OCS at Illinois is terrible. Not any worse than most other schools, career services seem to be pretty useless in general, but it's still terrible. Maybe they are doing more now but when it came to helping 2ls for OCI last summer they didn't do shit. Mostly they just gave no information at all, but sometimes they would actually send out bad advice. (They told males to wear black suits to interviews
. See the conversation from the 2ls last summer in the Illinois 1l Taking Questions thread for more).
As far as CA - there was a total of ONE CA firm at OCI. The school co-sponsored a "Southern California Interview Program" that only had five employers interviewing (and only two firms) and no one from Illinois got hired from it. They sent out an email claiming they were doing a resume collect for California. They had everybody send in resumes and then said that at a later date they would give us a list of firms that they would send the resumes to. They never sent out the list and they never even mentioned it again. As far as I know they never sent the resumes out to anyone. (Although by the time they did this it was so late in the hiring season that anyone who wanted to work in CA had already applied to every possible firm on NALP anyway, so the whole thing was pretty pointless).
Apparently there are people who got jobs in CA, but I don't know who they are or what kind of jobs they got. I don't know a single 2l with a BigLaw SA lined up in CA. I know a person in the top 5% from LA who couldn't get a job there. If there is anyone with an SA in California they either got it from the one OCI firm or they got it on their own through mass mailing and got lucky. With unlimited time to search for a job, I'm sure people would have better luck getting a job in CA. But the way BigLaw hiring works, once you get an offer the clock starts ticking and you can't keep applying forever.
That said, I love it at Illinois and if you want BigLaw in Chicago then I think Illinois is the best chance outside of the T-14 for sure. But if you come here, be realistic about our placement. It's a regional school. If you're looking to work outside the state you are going to need to put in a lot of work and get lucky. If you don't plan on working in Illinois after graduation, or are not OK with the idea of possibly giving up an offer for BigLaw in Chicago to keep trying to get something in your desired market, then this isn't the right school for you.