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Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:13 pm
by hadisious
Held as well.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:15 pm
by dreakol
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


Oh what a scholar

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:16 pm
by kalede
In via email today with a quarter scholarship! :D

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:17 pm
by tennisballs
Did everyone receive these e-mails at the exact same time?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:17 pm
by btw384
Opie wrote:
btw384 wrote:Accepted via email, $5k/year scholly with no stips. It was unexpected as I only applied a couple of weeks ago, but I am definitely excited about it. Hopefully I can negotiate that small scholly up a bit!

Remember as well that another advantage of Illinois is that they don't raise tuition on you while you're there. That can't be said for every law school.

Very true. I am interested for sure, but as an OOS student, the thought of running up $160k is not too enticing. Hopefully they are willing to budge a bit. Regardless, it was good news for a Monday morning.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:42 pm
by STLMizzou
Held via email

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:48 pm
by givemea170
Held via email as well. Im pretty new to the application process. What does held mean exactly? Is it better than being waitlisted or is it basically just a lukewarm rejection? Pretty disappointing as i thought my 171 lsat would get me at least in.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:56 pm
by YankeeFan2
givemea170 wrote:Held via email as well. Im pretty new to the application process. What does held mean exactly? Is it better than being waitlisted or is it basically just a lukewarm rejection? Pretty disappointing as i thought my 171 lsat would get me at least in.


Good question about being held. I was held as well -- I think its basically a lukewarm rejection. I am not keeping my hopes up.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:59 pm
by neeko
YankeeFan2 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Held via email as well. Im pretty new to the application process. What does held mean exactly? Is it better than being waitlisted or is it basically just a lukewarm rejection? Pretty disappointing as i thought my 171 lsat would get me at least in.


Good question about being held. I was held as well -- I think its basically a lukewarm rejection. I am not keeping my hopes up.


I would say its closer to a lukewarm waitlist. I'm held, too.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:00 pm
by YankeeFan2
neeko wrote:
YankeeFan2 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Held via email as well. Im pretty new to the application process. What does held mean exactly? Is it better than being waitlisted or is it basically just a lukewarm rejection? Pretty disappointing as i thought my 171 lsat would get me at least in.


Good question about being held. I was held as well -- I think its basically a lukewarm rejection. I am not keeping my hopes up.


I would say its closer to a lukewarm waitlist. I'm held, too.


So should I feel better that it is not a flat out rejection?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:01 pm
by neeko
YankeeFan2 wrote:
neeko wrote:
YankeeFan2 wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Held via email as well. Im pretty new to the application process. What does held mean exactly? Is it better than being waitlisted or is it basically just a lukewarm rejection? Pretty disappointing as i thought my 171 lsat would get me at least in.


Good question about being held. I was held as well -- I think its basically a lukewarm rejection. I am not keeping my hopes up.


I would say its closer to a lukewarm waitlist. I'm held, too.


So should I feel better that it is not a flat out rejection?


Definitely.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:09 pm
by blurbz
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


Out of curiosity, who taught the class you sat in on?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:10 pm
by jrthor10
In with a quarter scholarship via e-mail.

Looking at LSN two things seem clear to me: One apps are down this year bc of the scandal. Two, UIUC seems to either dramatically favor high gpa's to high lsat's for scholarships or 2, the school is holding back $$ from candidates they don't think will attend.

TBH I was a little surprised with my stats that I only got a 1/4 scholly when it seems clear to everyone the school is going to have a weird cycle. Anybody else have thoughts on this?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:15 pm
by kennethellenparcell
For what it's worth, I have a 175+ LSAT and approximately the same GPA as you and I'm in with 1/2 scholly.

jrthor10 wrote:In with a quarter scholarship via e-mail.

Looking at LSN two things seem clear to me: One apps are down this year bc of the scandal. Two, UIUC seems to either dramatically favor high gpa's to high lsat's for scholarships or 2, the school is holding back $$ from candidates they don't think will attend.

TBH I was a little surprised with my stats that I only got a 1/4 scholly when it seems clear to everyone the school is going to have a weird cycle. Anybody else have thoughts on this?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:15 pm
by Ludo!
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


You were unimpressed with the visit but disappointed not to get in?

What was wrong with the class out of curiosity?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:48 pm
by STLMizzou
So was everybody that was held today a splitter? I am confused why a "hold"? Maybe to get people who are not really planning on UofI to withdraw their applications for YP?

I mean, it’s the end of January. You would think they know at least the basic GPA/LSAT stats of everybody who was going to apply by now…

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:54 pm
by Opie
STLMizzou wrote:So was everybody that was held today a splitter? I am confused why a "hold"? Maybe to get people who are not really planning on UofI to withdraw their applications for YP?

I mean, it’s the end of January. You would think they know at least the basic GPA/LSAT stats of everybody who was going to apply by now…


Could be a combination of the two. Maybe they do know the basic numbers but the margin is tight and they need to shore it up a little more.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:16 pm
by Rdubs
Ludovico Technique wrote:
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


You were unimpressed with the visit but disappointed not to get in?

What was wrong with the class out of curiosity?


Precisely. It is saddening to be held at a school that was not that impressive, as it may be a sign of things to come from schools that would potentially be more impressive.

The class was not engaging. The professor was constantly pacing and looking at the walls. The questions students were asked were easy to answer (even for someone who had not read the material and has not studied law) but the answers provided by the students were consistently off the mark and sometimes just plain wrong. The atmosphere was just not what I had expected, as many students immediately closed their books upon being informed that they were not one of the two students chosen for that period. Additionally, the students directly in front of me were instant messaging the whole time. While I understand that every class will inevitably have its share of disengaged students, the number of students who appeared to "check out" within the first five minutes of class was surprising.

I should add, though, that I was able to interact with a few 2L students after my visit, and they appeared to be much more intelligent and interested in their studies than the students in the class I sat in on. So the class I witnessed could very well have been an anomaly.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:25 pm
by Opie
Rdubs wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


You were unimpressed with the visit but disappointed not to get in?

What was wrong with the class out of curiosity?


Precisely. It is saddening to be held at a school that was not that impressive, as it may be a sign of things to come from schools that would potentially be more impressive.

The class was not engaging. The professor was constantly pacing and looking at the walls. The questions students were asked were easy to answer (even for someone who had not read the material and has not studied law) but the answers provided by the students were consistently off the mark and sometimes just plain wrong. The atmosphere was just not what I had expected, as many students immediately closed their books upon being informed that they were not one of the two students chosen for that period. Additionally, the students directly in front of me were instant messaging the whole time. While I understand that every class will inevitably have its share of disengaged students, the number of students who appeared to "check out" within the first five minutes of class was surprising.

I should add, though, that I was able to interact with a few 2L students after my visit, and they appeared to be much more intelligent and interested in their studies than the students in the class I sat in on. So the class I witnessed could very well have been an anomaly.


I think your expectations of what law school is like might be a little off.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:36 pm
by Ludo!
Rdubs wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


You were unimpressed with the visit but disappointed not to get in?

What was wrong with the class out of curiosity?


Precisely. It is saddening to be held at a school that was not that impressive, as it may be a sign of things to come from schools that would potentially be more impressive.

The class was not engaging. The professor was constantly pacing and looking at the walls. The questions students were asked were easy to answer (even for someone who had not read the material and has not studied law) but the answers provided by the students were consistently off the mark and sometimes just plain wrong. The atmosphere was just not what I had expected, as many students immediately closed their books upon being informed that they were not one of the two students chosen for that period. Additionally, the students directly in front of me were instant messaging the whole time. While I understand that every class will inevitably have its share of disengaged students, the number of students who appeared to "check out" within the first five minutes of class was surprising.

I should add, though, that I was able to interact with a few 2L students after my visit, and they appeared to be much more intelligent and interested in their studies than the students in the class I sat in on. So the class I witnessed could very well have been an anomaly.


You sound like a huge douche, please don't come to Illinois

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:43 pm
by jsvaughn
held today via email

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:46 pm
by tmon
Under review. How long has the review process taken for recent decisions? Seems like about a month on LSN?

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:16 pm
by Gail
Held = WL

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:18 pm
by hadisious
Gail wrote:Held = WL

This isn't correct. When held at UIUC you can still be rejected, unlike a traditional waitlist. You can also be waitlisted, which is like every other waitlist.

Re: UIUC 2015

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:20 pm
by dreakol
Rdubs wrote:
Ludovico Technique wrote:
Rdubs wrote:Held via email..... Quite disappointing - as a recent visit left me far from impressed... Perhaps the class I sat in on was not on par with the rest of what Illinois offers, but still....


You were unimpressed with the visit but disappointed not to get in?

What was wrong with the class out of curiosity?


Precisely. It is saddening to be held at a school that was not that impressive, as it may be a sign of things to come from schools that would potentially be more impressive.

The class was not engaging. The professor was constantly pacing and looking at the walls. The questions students were asked were easy to answer (even for someone who had not read the material and has not studied law) but the answers provided by the students were consistently off the mark and sometimes just plain wrong. The atmosphere was just not what I had expected, as many students immediately closed their books upon being informed that they were not one of the two students chosen for that period. Additionally, the students directly in front of me were instant messaging the whole time. While I understand that every class will inevitably have its share of disengaged students, the number of students who appeared to "check out" within the first five minutes of class was surprising.

I should add, though, that I was able to interact with a few 2L students after my visit, and they appeared to be much more intelligent and interested in their studies than the students in the class I sat in on. So the class I witnessed could very well have been an anomaly.


OH WHAT A SCHOLAR