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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:41 pm

Let me get some advice here... Jenny just bumped me from 5K to 25%... do you guys think it would be worth it to reply back asking for a little bit more or should I take my small win and be okay with it? I see some lower LSAT/Lower GPA scores in this thread getting bumped up to above 25% so I'm not sure the book is closed for me on just 25% but I don't want to be obnoxious.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mmhmmjc » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:34 pm

wowww still on second hold since 1/9....

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mattviphky » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:32 pm

givemea170 wrote:Let me get some advice here... Jenny just bumped me from 5K to 25%... do you guys think it would be worth it to reply back asking for a little bit more or should I take my small win and be okay with it? I see some lower LSAT/Lower GPA scores in this thread getting bumped up to above 25% so I'm not sure the book is closed for me on just 25% but I don't want to be obnoxious.


I would wait a week.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:51 pm

mattviphky wrote:
givemea170 wrote:Let me get some advice here... Jenny just bumped me from 5K to 25%... do you guys think it would be worth it to reply back asking for a little bit more or should I take my small win and be okay with it? I see some lower LSAT/Lower GPA scores in this thread getting bumped up to above 25% so I'm not sure the book is closed for me on just 25% but I don't want to be obnoxious.


I would wait a week.


Yeah, I will wait a while definitely.

Lots of negative publicity about U of I in general lately. Shaka Smart turned them down for the basketball job to stay at VCU? Never thought I'd see that.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mg87 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:58 pm

I see that a number of you are requesting a better scholarship and getting results. Does anyone have advice on how I should go about this?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:09 pm

mg87 wrote:I see that a number of you are requesting a better scholarship and getting results. Does anyone have advice on how I should go about this?


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I structured my email just about how that thread advises.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:10 pm

For you college basketball fans, Illinois is hoping to land Brad Stevens. Would be a big thing for Illinois.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:46 pm

Seriously, I could make my final decision once I receive ANY answer from WSTL.... I've heard back from every school but them and I'm hoping I can leverage their offer into another increase at Illinois.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby smhaaty » Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:54 am

givemea170 wrote:For you college basketball fans, Illinois is hoping to land Brad Stevens. Would be a big thing for Illinois.

If they do, I'm going to Illinois. I love Brad Stevens and Butler.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby diegoforlan10 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:39 am

Bumping my old post that I think got buried - can anyone comment on whether a MD native like me should attend UIUC or Maryland, all things being equal? (My scholarship makes the price difference negligible, I have no preference for region although I have strong ties in Maryland).

Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:20 am

I'd be SHOCKED to see Brad Stevens leave BU. He just signed a 12 year extension and, after last year's championship game, intimated that he was truly in it for the long term. He was a huge Indiana fan growing up and, if Crean were to leave, I think he might jump to that program, but I can't see him coming to Illinois. I'd love it if he did, though: He's a great coach and an extremely nice dude.

Edit: His wife has lived her whole life in Indy, too, and has never wanted to move or give up her job. Obviously, he'd make enough money at Illinois that she could (and, frankly, he does at Butler, too) but she really likes her job in Indy. It'd have to be the perfect storm for him to leave and, as much as I'd love to see him at Illinois, I think he's able to wait for one of the truly premier coaching jobs in the nation to open before jumping ship.

There is precedent for Butler coaches to move to the Big 10: Thad Matta coached at Butler and is now at Ohio State (Though he was with Xavier between the two) and Licklighter went from Butler to Iowa about 5 years ago (and flamed out pretty quickly).
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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:30 am

diegoforlan10 wrote:Bumping my old post that I think got buried - can anyone comment on whether a MD native like me should attend UIUC or Maryland, all things being equal? (My scholarship makes the price difference negligible, I have no preference for region although I have strong ties in Maryland).

Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.


I can't say too much because I don't know much about Baltimore or MD's market in general (assuming MD doesn't place well in DC, which I think is a safe assumption given the competition there). All things equal, I'd lean towards Illinois because, if you do well, you'll have good options in Chicago and I rank Chicago higher than Baltimore on my completely subjective list of US cities.

I think all around Illinois beats Maryland and the only things that should push you to Maryland are geographical preferences and large money differences!

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby illini22 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:55 am

blurbz wrote:
diegoforlan10 wrote:Bumping my old post that I think got buried - can anyone comment on whether a MD native like me should attend UIUC or Maryland, all things being equal? (My scholarship makes the price difference negligible, I have no preference for region although I have strong ties in Maryland).

Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.


I can't say too much because I don't know much about Baltimore or MD's market in general (assuming MD doesn't place well in DC, which I think is a safe assumption given the competition there). All things equal, I'd lean towards Illinois because, if you do well, you'll have good options in Chicago and I rank Chicago higher than Baltimore on my completely subjective list of US cities.

I think all around Illinois beats Maryland and the only things that should push you to Maryland are geographical preferences and large money differences!


If money is no issue, city is no issue, I think you just answered your own question. Maryland's big law placement has been around half that of Illinois...

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... 2443758843

(too lazy to look up other years, but you get the idea).

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:07 pm

blurbz wrote:I'd be SHOCKED to see Brad Stevens leave BU. He just signed a 12 year extension and, after last year's championship game, intimated that he was truly in it for the long term. He was a huge Indiana fan growing up and, if Crean were to leave, I think he might jump to that program, but I can't see him coming to Illinois. I'd love it if he did, though: He's a great coach and an extremely nice dude.

Edit: His wife has lived her whole life in Indy, too, and has never wanted to move or give up her job. Obviously, he'd make enough money at Illinois that she could (and, frankly, he does at Butler, too) but she really likes her job in Indy. It'd have to be the perfect storm for him to leave and, as much as I'd love to see him at Illinois, I think he's able to wait for one of the truly premier coaching jobs in the nation to open before jumping ship.

There is precedent for Butler coaches to move to the Big 10: Thad Matta coached at Butler and is now at Ohio State (Though he was with Xavier between the two) and Licklighter went from Butler to Iowa about 5 years ago (and flamed out pretty quickly).


With Indiana being successful under Crean, there is no guarantee the Indiana job becomes available any time soon. And it is time for Brad Stevens to prove himself. It is also a risk for him to stay at Butler after the terrible year Butler had this year. If they are terrible next year, his stock falls, and if they have a prolonged slump, a school like Kansas/Indiana which he is holding out for might never come calling for him. I'm biased obviously but I think it'd be a smart career choice to prove you can succeed at a bigger program like Illinois, to show that you could handle the pressures at that level.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:23 pm

givemea170 wrote:
blurbz wrote:I'd be SHOCKED to see Brad Stevens leave BU. He just signed a 12 year extension and, after last year's championship game, intimated that he was truly in it for the long term. He was a huge Indiana fan growing up and, if Crean were to leave, I think he might jump to that program, but I can't see him coming to Illinois. I'd love it if he did, though: He's a great coach and an extremely nice dude.

Edit: His wife has lived her whole life in Indy, too, and has never wanted to move or give up her job. Obviously, he'd make enough money at Illinois that she could (and, frankly, he does at Butler, too) but she really likes her job in Indy. It'd have to be the perfect storm for him to leave and, as much as I'd love to see him at Illinois, I think he's able to wait for one of the truly premier coaching jobs in the nation to open before jumping ship.

There is precedent for Butler coaches to move to the Big 10: Thad Matta coached at Butler and is now at Ohio State (Though he was with Xavier between the two) and Licklighter went from Butler to Iowa about 5 years ago (and flamed out pretty quickly).


With Indiana being successful under Crean, there is no guarantee the Indiana job becomes available any time soon. And it is time for Brad Stevens to prove himself. It is also a risk for him to stay at Butler after the terrible year Butler had this year. If they are terrible next year, his stock falls, and if they have a prolonged slump, a school like Kansas/Indiana which he is holding out for might never come calling for him. I'm biased obviously but I think it'd be a smart career choice to prove you can succeed at a bigger program like Illinois, to show that you could handle the pressures at that level.


I sort of disagree. Butler definitely didn't have the year that they wanted, but look at the team that Stevens assumed they'd have this year: It would have included Gordon Hayward and Shelvin Mack, two current NBA players who left early for the draft. With those two guys, Butler would have been a tremendously different team and their losses couldn't be accounted for in recruiting. I also don't really think that next year is a make/break year for Stevens: He's proved himself already by becoming one of the winningest coaches in the first 5 years of their tenure in the NCAA and bringing Butler to the National Championship game twice, once with only mediocre talent. Next year's team looks pretty good, though: They've got a big, talented SEC transfer, a good freshman class, and their sophomore class came on strong at the end of this season. I expect the returning sophomores to impress after another offseason in the Butler system. The biggest draw for Stevens to stay at Butler, besides his personal/familial preferences, is that Butler is likely moving to the A10 conference in 2013. That might provide more incentive than moving to a larger program, especially if Licklighter's Iowa fiasco serves as a warning to him.

Don't get me wrong, though: I'd LOVE to see Stevens come to Illinois....I just don't think it makes a ton of sense for him right now.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby givemea170 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 am

blurbz wrote:
givemea170 wrote:
blurbz wrote:I'd be SHOCKED to see Brad Stevens leave BU. He just signed a 12 year extension and, after last year's championship game, intimated that he was truly in it for the long term. He was a huge Indiana fan growing up and, if Crean were to leave, I think he might jump to that program, but I can't see him coming to Illinois. I'd love it if he did, though: He's a great coach and an extremely nice dude.

Edit: His wife has lived her whole life in Indy, too, and has never wanted to move or give up her job. Obviously, he'd make enough money at Illinois that she could (and, frankly, he does at Butler, too) but she really likes her job in Indy. It'd have to be the perfect storm for him to leave and, as much as I'd love to see him at Illinois, I think he's able to wait for one of the truly premier coaching jobs in the nation to open before jumping ship.

There is precedent for Butler coaches to move to the Big 10: Thad Matta coached at Butler and is now at Ohio State (Though he was with Xavier between the two) and Licklighter went from Butler to Iowa about 5 years ago (and flamed out pretty quickly).


With Indiana being successful under Crean, there is no guarantee the Indiana job becomes available any time soon. And it is time for Brad Stevens to prove himself. It is also a risk for him to stay at Butler after the terrible year Butler had this year. If they are terrible next year, his stock falls, and if they have a prolonged slump, a school like Kansas/Indiana which he is holding out for might never come calling for him. I'm biased obviously but I think it'd be a smart career choice to prove you can succeed at a bigger program like Illinois, to show that you could handle the pressures at that level.


I sort of disagree. Butler definitely didn't have the year that they wanted, but look at the team that Stevens assumed they'd have this year: It would have included Gordon Hayward and Shelvin Mack, two current NBA players who left early for the draft. With those two guys, Butler would have been a tremendously different team and their losses couldn't be accounted for in recruiting. I also don't really think that next year is a make/break year for Stevens: He's proved himself already by becoming one of the winningest coaches in the first 5 years of their tenure in the NCAA and bringing Butler to the National Championship game twice, once with only mediocre talent. Next year's team looks pretty good, though: They've got a big, talented SEC transfer, a good freshman class, and their sophomore class came on strong at the end of this season. I expect the returning sophomores to impress after another offseason in the Butler system. The biggest draw for Stevens to stay at Butler, besides his personal/familial preferences, is that Butler is likely moving to the A10 conference in 2013. That might provide more incentive than moving to a larger program, especially if Licklighter's Iowa fiasco serves as a warning to him.

Don't get me wrong, though: I'd LOVE to see Stevens come to Illinois....I just don't think it makes a ton of sense for him right now.


I don't buy into the 'he lost early NBA admits' because at a program like Indiana or Kansas, he'd be dealing with that on a yearly basis considering most of these 5 star recruits are one and dones.

I don't know if I would take the Illinois job if I was Stevens either. It is a really hard job and it definitely has a chance of failure. That being said... it'd probably be a raise of 250%.... that kind of money is hard to ignore and he'd certainly have an energetic fan base if he could turn the program around. It is a big risk but comes with big rewards and at the very worst he is set financially for life.

I also won't get into how bad the Horizon conference is... but hopefully Butler goes to the A-10 soon so it won't be an issue for his teams in the future. I watched some horizon league games this year that looked like women's ball (no offense ladies).

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:27 pm

givemea170 wrote:I don't buy into the 'he lost early NBA admits' because at a program like Indiana or Kansas, he'd be dealing with that on a yearly basis considering most of these 5 star recruits are one and dones.

I don't know if I would take the Illinois job if I was Stevens either. It is a really hard job and it definitely has a chance of failure. That being said... it'd probably be a raise of 250%.... that kind of money is hard to ignore and he'd certainly have an energetic fan base if he could turn the program around. It is a big risk but comes with big rewards and at the very worst he is set financially for life.

I also won't get into how bad the Horizon conference is... but hopefully Butler goes to the A-10 soon so it won't be an issue for his teams in the future. I watched some horizon league games this year that looked like women's ball (no offense ladies).


Eh, not a winning argument for me. At places capable of getting five-star talent, you assume they're going to leave and you plan for it. Neither Gordon nor Shelvin were that highly rated: the fact that they're both NBA players now says a lot about their development under Stevens. I don't think you can hold it against him that he didn't plan to lose two starters from this years' team to the NBA the way you could if they'd have been five-star recruits at a major program.

But back to UIUC discussion....Any other questions from others? Don't be afraid to interject--we may be hijacking the thread but feel free to get it back on track....

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby Gail » Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:50 pm

Anyone notice Chicago biglaw recovering?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mattviphky » Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:23 pm

Gail wrote:Anyone notice Chicago biglaw recovering?


deets?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:55 pm

Gail wrote:Anyone notice Chicago biglaw recovering?


People who did really well (top 10ish percent) got a ton of OCI interviews and multiple callbacks in the Chicago market. It definitely wasn't the bloodbath I was expecting but it's still not pre ITE, either.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby diegoforlan10 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:01 pm

blurbz wrote:People who did really well (top 10ish percent) got a ton of OCI interviews and multiple callbacks in the Chicago market. It definitely wasn't the bloodbath I was expecting but it's still not pre ITE, either.


Hopefully it will continue to improve. I'm out of the country right now and haven't been paying too much attention to US news - what's the general word on the economy? Is it still slowly getting better?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mattviphky » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:45 pm

Any details on clerkships? Anecdotes? Anything?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby mattviphky » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:11 pm

internships? anyone doing the legislative one?

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby blurbz » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Illinois announced their "Chicago Program" yesterday...I'm underwhelmed but curious about what others think. My first reaction: It's more PR than substance, especially since we've offered intersession classes in Chicago for a while. Either way, having a stronger continued presence in the city is a good thing.

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Re: UIUC 2015

Postby tmon » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:11 pm

blurbz wrote:Illinois announced their "Chicago Program" yesterday...I'm underwhelmed but curious about what others think. My first reaction: It's more PR than substance, especially since we've offered intersession classes in Chicago for a while. Either way, having a stronger continued presence in the city is a good thing.

So, based on the write-up, it's just a 2 credit class that takes place in Chicago over the summer? Or is there more to it that they've concretely announced, other than "additional courses and events"?




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