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Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:40 am
by Dick Dastardly
iamsparticus wrote:
Dick Dastardly wrote: Minnesotans get the equivalent of a $15K scholarship just because of tuition reciprocity. .



You've got your numbers a little skewed here...more like $5k break for Minnesotans. Being a MN res hoping to get in to UW I wish you were right.

http://www.law.wisc.edu/prospective/tui ... costs.html

I think this difference in tuition for residents illustrates why UMN is more freehanded with scholarship money than UW. The kids who pay sticker (regardless of residency) pay for those scholarships. UW on the other hand likes to accept a lot of Wisconsinites (past 3 classes matriculated ~60%) so they have a smaller pool of money for merit scholarships.

My bad, that wasn't clear: both "relative scholarship" numbers I threw out in that post were over three years (e.g., the $75K at Illinois).

And you might have a good point about the applicant pools influencing the scholarship availability. I guess I never thought about it quite that way -- we keep attracting all these Wisconsin residents (low tuition, best school in the state, no bar exam=best 3L ever, etc.), and that might be the reason we can't afford to attract some of the non-Wisconsin residents. Good thought.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:09 am
by iamsparticus
Now I'm pickin up what you're puttin down. I didn't even look at the IL number.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:25 pm
by BearsGrl
Dick Dastardly wrote:Oh, one more thing: other than the URM fellowships (which are really generous, and through a separate endowment), Wisconsin does not have a tremendous amount of financial aid money to throw around. I know of a few people with solid scholarships, so it does happen, but it isn't like Illinois, where they have hundreds of thousands of dollars in a separate fund, solely for the sake of attracting candidates (and/or making candidates up).

Sorry, Illinois people, I couldn't pass up that joke. Nothing personal.

Anyway, if you are URM, you might hit a jackpot here. If you're in-state, good luck finding a better deal (in-state tuition is basically a $75K scholarship at Illinois)...and you still might be one of the lucky ones to get a scholarship on top of it. Minnesotans get the equivalent of a $15K scholarship just because of tuition reciprocity. But if you are out-of-state and your decision is going to be based heavily upon financial aid, then you might have more luck at some of the peerish schools that have bigger scholarship endowments. Just trying to be honest, from what I've seen.


This has been my basic insight from past cycles. I know there were strong candidates that were surprised that they weren't being offered more in terms of financial incentive to attend. It probably kept them away. I would be interested in knowing why out-of-state applicants from the East Coast or West Coast are interested in attending the school. Unless they have a significant other moving, what are their deciding factors for choosing Madison?

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:04 am
by Chriz
I applied Early Decison, then was deferred to the regular decision and I still haven't heard anything.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:04 pm
by vaguephoenix
Admitted students- When did you get your packet in the mail?

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:29 pm
by favrefire4
Just got the wait list email...HUGE reverse splitter (155 LSAT/3.8 LSDAS GPA)...in-state.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:32 pm
by CaptainJack
+1 on the waitlist email. Really not happy. Madison was and is a top choice for me. Took an acceptance for granted after getting into Virginia, Berkeley, and Minnesota.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:39 pm
by stillwater
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Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:59 pm
by ashley12
I am shocked to see a lot of these waitlists. I know UW is known for the practice, but I don't understand them turning away most of these numbers, especially considering how far they are (well some, anyways) over the medians. Still UR since about a decade ago, expecting I'll soon be joining the WL club

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:01 pm
by KibblesnBitts
Waitlisted, withdrawing tonight.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:01 pm
by Sammy841
Just withdrew today- good luck to those still waiting!

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:07 pm
by Bmarce
ashley12 wrote:I am shocked to see a lot of these waitlists. I know UW is known for the practice, but I don't understand them turning away most of these numbers, especially considering how far they are (well some, anyways) over the medians. Still UR since about a decade ago, expecting I'll soon be joining the WL club



They seem to believe that OOS students with competitive numbers could not possibly want to leave their home states to live in Wisconsin.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:08 pm
by brotoss
How long did it take for you guys to go from complete to under review or w/e?

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:12 pm
by ashley12
brotoss wrote:How long did it take for you guys to go from complete to under review or w/e?


Just about thirty years, give or take a couple of months.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:13 pm
by BearsGrl
ashley12 wrote:
brotoss wrote:How long did it take for you guys to go from complete to under review or w/e?


Just about thirty years, give or take a couple of months.


Seriously - What are they doing with our group??

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:14 pm
by BearsGrl
brotoss wrote:How long did it take for you guys to go from complete to under review or w/e?


A week. And then you just sit there like an energizer bunny.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:27 pm
by Randomnumbers
Unless you are vaguephoenix.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:42 pm
by ckelly85
Waitlisted OOS 3.07/163

Going to withdraw. Good luck everyone!

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:47 pm
by Chriz
I was waitlisted but Madison is my number 1 school so I am still hoping to get it. Any advice on what to say in a LOCI?

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:05 pm
by vaguephoenix
Randomnumbers wrote:Unless you are vaguephoenix.


I seem to be a rarity.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:08 pm
by vaguephoenix
brotoss wrote:How long did it take for you guys to go from complete to under review or w/e?

I sat in complete for like, 2 1/2 weeks before I went under review.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:13 pm
by BearsGrl
vaguephoenix wrote:
Randomnumbers wrote:Unless you are vaguephoenix.


I seem to be a rarity.


Nah - You were just auto-admit. Your admittance didn't surprise me.

In-state, UW grad AND your numbers = you for sure being accepted. :D

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:15 pm
by vaguephoenix
BearsGrl wrote:
vaguephoenix wrote:
Randomnumbers wrote:Unless you are vaguephoenix.


I seem to be a rarity.


Nah - You were just auto-admit. Your admittance didn't surprise me.

In-state, UW grad AND your numbers = you for sure being accepted. :D


Man, I think you had more confidence than I did lol

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:16 pm
by Randomnumbers
Apparently that logic only works as long as your numbers aren't much better than hers then.

Re: UW Madison c/o 2015

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:17 pm
by BearsGrl
vaguephoenix wrote:
BearsGrl wrote:
vaguephoenix wrote:
Randomnumbers wrote:Unless you are vaguephoenix.


I seem to be a rarity.


Nah - You were just auto-admit. Your admittance didn't surprise me.

In-state, UW grad AND your numbers = you for sure being accepted. :D


Man, I think you had more confidence than I did lol


Haha - I did. That's why I wanted movement for the rest of us!