Wow. I had been checking on this thread every so often to see what was going on with admissions, and suddenly it has exploded. With no intention of sparking a flame war, I do want to throw a few comments out there.
First of all, congrats to all you Vandy admits. We would love to have you here next year!
Second, you should not compare the cost-of-attendance numbers that the schools publish. For example, Vandy gives a much bigger cushion in the student budget than Cornell does. You should compare tuition numbers and then also look at housing costs in the two areas. In other words, Vandy's published COA number is only useful as a means of knowing how big of a student loan you can get--not necessarily as the actual cost of attendance.
anewaphorist wrote:Nice, ncterp!
Re job prospects, certain markets are essentially closed to Vandy grads. Look at D.C.: Georgetown places very well there, whereas Vandy does not. On the other hand, there are no major markets that would take Vandy over Georgetown, whereas clearly there's at least one that prefers Georgetown grads and represents their alumni far more than they do VLS grads.
It's definitely not essentially closed, but you're gonna need pretty damn good grades, but that's not unusual for DC firms, from anywhere.
Third, Grizz is correct here. Furthermore, I have no doubt that more GULC students stay in DC (than Vanderbilt students go to DC), but it is a non sequitur to assume therefore that Vandy students can't
get to DC. But you do need good grades (from any school, as far as I can tell).
anewaphorist wrote:To boil it down to pure numbers, the question seems to be, "Is Georgetown worth 70k more than Vandy?" Over the course of an entire career, the difference alone in the legal job prospects of a T14 graduate versus one who attended a non-peer school justifies the cost. This is all assuming an equal class rank at either school, of course. Yes, the T14 cutoff is aribitrary, but even a graduate of the #14 school had to make it through the 8th most selective application process--the numbers of Georgetown's admits are quite a bit higher than some T14s, and this too plays into hiring.
This is dumb. If anything, where you go to matters less as your career progresses. 8th most selective admissions means nothing in re hiring (see, e.g., Cornell and Michigan having better NLJ250 placement than GULC despite being less selective). I would never take GULC over Vandy at $70k.
Grizz is right here, too. If there is any benefit to GULC over Vandy (which is a questionable assumption, at best), you are going to more or less exhaust that benefit in your first job search. I am not going to say that GULC is never
worth $70k (plus interest) more than Vandy to anybody
, but I will say that I can't imagine a scenario where I would pay more to go to GULC than Vandy.
Doesn't seem that way to me, just correcting another misinformed poster.
Misinformed? The topic under discussion was entirely one of preference/individual judgment. 'Misinformed'? Because I'd be willing to forego the cost of a Land Rover for a shot at the best school in the DC area (and, by extension, a government/PI job there)? The personalities ITT are so grating. Why can't you just let someone respond to a hypothetical that was being bounced around a few pages ago? If you think that prestigious employment in D.C. ain't worth a dime extra, then that's fine. I think it is. I thought I took the mickey out of this bullshit by not engaging in Grizz's self-aggrandizement. Apparently, there's one other poster fueling the idiotic fire, thinking it's "misinformed" to hold employment prospects that in any way differ from his own.
I've already been accepted to this school, so I'm more interested in finding out the potential classmates I'd have should I choose to matriculate. The small sample size of 1Ls and prospective 0Ls has not been represented well. With students that offer profound critiques--like calling my post,
--how could I not be sold on Vandy, on the caliber of students I'd be working with? Way to go, Grizz; you're driving away a student with #s above both medians in an already moribund application season. I'm sure Vandy's admissions office appreciates your handiwork.
FWIW, it would be great to return to the purpose of this thread. Somehow, I doubt this will happen. Good luck to all those accepted, and it sure would be great to have some meaningful discussion here, just in case some redeeming quality of the school/its students/its career prospects would surface.
Dude. You're making my eyes bleed. The pomposity of the bolded
is nauseating. And not to hate on 0Ls too much, but why do you have to insist you know so much more about Vandy's employment stats (and hiring/employment in general) than 2Ls and 3Ls at the school?
Hannibal wrote:The parties are advised to chill.