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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:59 pm 
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What the poaster above says is credited.

I live right downtown on the west side (not in the Hurl District, thank you), and have a bangarang 1 bedroom apartment for $900/mo.

Why am I moving from Portland, again?


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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I applied to L&C. Love the school and surrounding area. But, I have a question or two...

I used to live in Austin and loved it. I hear Portland is about the same in its level of panhandlers, etc. Are they aggressive? Is Portland "progressive" and "family friendly" at the same time?

Also, does anyone know about the campus houses that support L&C law students? It is competitive to get in?


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BarcaCrossesTheAlps wrote:
I applied to L&C. Love the school and surrounding area. But, I have a question or two...

I used to live in Austin and loved it. I hear Portland is about the same in its level of panhandlers, etc. Are they aggressive? Is Portland "progressive" and "family friendly" at the same time?

Also, does anyone know about the campus houses that support L&C law students? It is competitive to get in?
Portland panhandlers are pretty ubiquitous, but I've never found them aggressive.

I wasn't aware that "progressive" and "family friendly" were inherently contradictory. If you don't want your kids to see people with tattoos and piercings walking around downtown, or same-sex couples daring to appear in public together, then Portland is probably not a good choice. But it's not like Portlanders are forced to watch porn on the lightrail or listen to satanic ceremonies in public parks. There are plenty of family-friendly activities that people of all ages enjoy here.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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rinkrat19 wrote:
BarcaCrossesTheAlps wrote:
I applied to L&C. Love the school and surrounding area. But, I have a question or two...

I used to live in Austin and loved it. I hear Portland is about the same in its level of panhandlers, etc. Are they aggressive? Is Portland "progressive" and "family friendly" at the same time?

Also, does anyone know about the campus houses that support L&C law students? It is competitive to get in?
Portland panhandlers are pretty ubiquitous, but I've never found them aggressive.

I wasn't aware that "progressive" and "family friendly" were inherently contradictory. If you don't want your kids to see people with tattoos and piercings walking around downtown, or same-sex couples daring to appear in public together, then Portland is probably not a good choice. But it's not like Portlanders are forced to watch porn on the lightrail or listen to satanic ceremonies in public parks. There are plenty of family-friendly activities that people of all ages enjoy here.



Oh, they are not! Remember, I'm from Austin, all the above is normal, if not welcomed, especially public porn. What I am getting to is, is Portland the hipster bastion of radical politics that people make it out to be, alone? In Austin, there was plenty of diversity, and by that, I mean not only "far-left" folks. It was so cool to live there because you'd have a feminist bookstore right next to a gunshop. A family arcade, which in Texas is a gaming place that serves food, right next to a headshop. At Book People, one night Molly Ivins would speak, and the next Paul Wolfowitz.

I'm trying to get a sense of the community at large; is it truly eclectic, or just leftist on every scale.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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BarcaCrossesTheAlps wrote:
rinkrat19 wrote:
BarcaCrossesTheAlps wrote:
I applied to L&C. Love the school and surrounding area. But, I have a question or two...

I used to live in Austin and loved it. I hear Portland is about the same in its level of panhandlers, etc. Are they aggressive? Is Portland "progressive" and "family friendly" at the same time?

Also, does anyone know about the campus houses that support L&C law students? It is competitive to get in?
Portland panhandlers are pretty ubiquitous, but I've never found them aggressive.

I wasn't aware that "progressive" and "family friendly" were inherently contradictory. If you don't want your kids to see people with tattoos and piercings walking around downtown, or same-sex couples daring to appear in public together, then Portland is probably not a good choice. But it's not like Portlanders are forced to watch porn on the lightrail or listen to satanic ceremonies in public parks. There are plenty of family-friendly activities that people of all ages enjoy here.



Oh, they are not! Remember, I'm from Austin, all the above is normal, if not welcomed, especially public porn. What I am getting to is, is Portland the hipster bastion of radical politics that people make it out to be, alone? In Austin, there was plenty of diversity, and by that, I mean not only "far-left" folks. It was so cool to live there because you'd have a feminist bookstore right next to a gunshop. A family arcade, which in Texas is a gaming place that serves food, right next to a headshop. At Book People, one night Molly Ivins would speak, and the next Paul Wolfowitz.

I'm trying to get a sense of the community at large; is it truly eclectic, or just leftist on every scale.
Mmm. I think in Portland proper, it's a pretty good mix of lifestyles, but overall pretty leftist politically except for the money up in the hills. So you get the yuppies and the hipsters and the...whatever else...all mixing to varying degrees in town. People may live with their 'own kind' in fairly homogenous neighborhoods (and I don't mean racially/ethnically so much as lifestyle) but there's a fair bit of wandering around and mixing to patronize different restaurants, bookstores, music venues, etc. Admittedly I don't look 'weird,' but I've never felt out of place really anywhere.

The further out from downtown you go, the more typically suburbanite it gets, right on out to isolationist pickup-driving rednecks on the edges of civilization in Gresham and Forest Grove--I have met people who live in FG and have literally never driven into downtown Portland in their lives.

Just my personal interpretation of how it works out here.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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Sounds good... I have met people from Portland (when I lived in Austin, no less!) and they seemed really neat, down to Earth.

I want to settle down in a place that is culturally similar to Austin. Why not go back to Austin, you ask? Well, it's the same old story: been there, done that, don't like the weather.

I run every morning, love trees, etc. Some friends call me a "yuppie outdoorsman," meaning I like to kayak and stuff like that on the weekends. I'm not a rugged camper, etc. Oregon just seems so beautiful. And Portland is, what?, like an hour from the beach and mt. Hood? Plus, I love rain and overcast skies.

Anyway, does anyone know about the campus housing for law school? I'm not married, no kids, and my mother can keep my cat. So this may be a good option if I get accepted.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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BarcaCrossesTheAlps wrote:
Sounds good... I have met people from Portland (when I lived in Austin, no less!) and they seemed really neat, down to Earth.

I want to settle down in a place that is culturally similar to Austin. Why not go back to Austin, you ask? Well, it's the same old story: been there, done that, don't like the weather.

I run every morning, love trees, etc. Some friends call me a "yuppie outdoorsman," meaning I like to kayak and stuff like that on the weekends. I'm not a rugged camper, etc. Oregon just seems so beautiful. And Portland is, what?, like an hour from the beach and mt. Hood? Plus, I love rain and overcast skies.

Anyway, does anyone know about the campus housing for law school? I'm not married, no kids, and my mother can keep my cat. So this may be a good option if I get accepted.
About an hour to anything you want, pretty much. :) Mountain, beach, temperate rainforest, high desert (well, more like 2 hrs), river gorge, lake. I will miss the landscape very much while I'm gone for LS.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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L&C shot up in the rankings. So I'm even less likely to get money now I suppose.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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Gaahhh, this wait is killing me. I've been able to log in to the admitted students page since Friday, but still haven't gotten the acceptance packet. I need to know about potential scholarships! Ahhh!


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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You got in! Congrats.... I want in, too. So..don't take any of my money! lol...


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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i don't know why i didn't post to this board earlier, but i got in a few months ago with some $$. i had kinda put L&C on the backburner, but now that they've shot up in the rankings, and some close friends are moving up to portland, i'm reconsidering.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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<facepalm>

Lewis and Clark could shoot up to #30 and the local dynamics would be the same. The lawyers I work for don't even know the rankings came out, and if they did, they wouldn't care. Lewis & Clark and Oregon are equals, and Willamette is just beneath them. U Washington doesn't really matter around here. There are UW grads working here, of course, but they overwhelmingly stay in Seattle. If they do come to Portland, they certainly aren't given preference over L&C/Oregon people just because they're higher ranked.

If you want Portland, go to L&C or Oregon. If you want one of the 10-15 SA slots at the bigger firms in Portland, then it's L&C/Oregon or T14.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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Campagnolo wrote:
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Lewis and Clark could shoot up to #30 and the local dynamics would be the same. The lawyers I work for don't even know the rankings came out, and if they did, they wouldn't care. Lewis & Clark and Oregon are equals, and Willamette is just beneath them. U Washington doesn't really matter around here. There are UW grads working here, of course, but they overwhelmingly stay in Seattle. If they do come to Portland, they certainly aren't given preference over L&C/Oregon people just because they're higher ranked.

If you want Portland, go to L&C or Oregon. If you want one of the 10-15 SA slots at the bigger firms in Portland, then it's L&C/Oregon or T14.


This is good to hear. "Protectionism" isn't always a bad thing.... If I end up at either UO or L&C, I want a job in Portland.


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Campagnolo wrote:
<facepalm>

Lewis and Clark could shoot up to #30 and the local dynamics would be the same. The lawyers I work for don't even know the rankings came out, and if they did, they wouldn't care. Lewis & Clark and Oregon are equals, and Willamette is just beneath them. U Washington doesn't really matter around here. There are UW grads working here, of course, but they overwhelmingly stay in Seattle. If they do come to Portland, they certainly aren't given preference over L&C/Oregon people just because they're higher ranked.

If you want Portland, go to L&C or Oregon. If you want one of the 10-15 SA slots at the bigger firms in Portland, then it's L&C/Oregon or T14.


Any insight on L&C's mobility if one wanted to go back to Seattle?


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Blue Ivy wrote:
Campagnolo wrote:
<facepalm>

Lewis and Clark could shoot up to #30 and the local dynamics would be the same. The lawyers I work for don't even know the rankings came out, and if they did, they wouldn't care. Lewis & Clark and Oregon are equals, and Willamette is just beneath them. U Washington doesn't really matter around here. There are UW grads working here, of course, but they overwhelmingly stay in Seattle. If they do come to Portland, they certainly aren't given preference over L&C/Oregon people just because they're higher ranked.

If you want Portland, go to L&C or Oregon. If you want one of the 10-15 SA slots at the bigger firms in Portland, then it's L&C/Oregon or T14.


Any insight on L&C's mobility if one wanted to go back to Seattle?


Dunno. Don't spend much time in Seattle.


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Withdrew today. Freed up some scholarship money for somebody.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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Blue Ivy wrote:
Campagnolo wrote:
<facepalm>

Lewis and Clark could shoot up to #30 and the local dynamics would be the same. The lawyers I work for don't even know the rankings came out, and if they did, they wouldn't care. Lewis & Clark and Oregon are equals, and Willamette is just beneath them. U Washington doesn't really matter around here. There are UW grads working here, of course, but they overwhelmingly stay in Seattle. If they do come to Portland, they certainly aren't given preference over L&C/Oregon people just because they're higher ranked.

If you want Portland, go to L&C or Oregon. If you want one of the 10-15 SA slots at the bigger firms in Portland, then it's L&C/Oregon or T14.


Any insight on L&C's mobility if one wanted to go back to Seattle?
Pretty sure there are more UW grads working in Portland than L&C grads working in Seattle, and there aren't that many of those.

As for L&C and UO being peers, from my rough NALP firm breakdown of the Portland market, there are almost twice as many L&C grads working in Portland firms as UO grads. Interpret that how you will, but I wouldn't call them equals. (Plus I hate the Ducks.)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... nItVU90VkE


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LC shot up in ranking?


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Withdrew. Good luck all!


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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Hear, hear!

Sink your teeth into some shitty cellphone photos and words I wrote about my trip to PDX/L&C for the admitted student events: http://greysuits.tumblr.com/

There's three posts on Portland (I pretty much just created it in my hotel to archive the trip for funsies), and maybe I'll update it with stuff about other schools I visit. Hope you enjoy.


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naw wrote:
Hear, hear!

Sink your teeth into some shitty cellphone photos and words I wrote about my trip to PDX/L&C for the admitted student events: http://greysuits.tumblr.com/

There's three posts on Portland (I pretty much just created it in my hotel to archive the trip for funsies), and maybe I'll update it with stuff about other schools I visit. Hope you enjoy.


What'd you think if the career services presentation?

The employment stats got me worried...


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masked kavana wrote:
naw wrote:
Hear, hear!

Sink your teeth into some shitty cellphone photos and words I wrote about my trip to PDX/L&C for the admitted student events: http://greysuits.tumblr.com/

There's three posts on Portland (I pretty much just created it in my hotel to archive the trip for funsies), and maybe I'll update it with stuff about other schools I visit. Hope you enjoy.


What'd you think if the career services presentation?

The employment stats got me worried...


please share with those of us who couldn't make it! i'm scared now!


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steepair wrote:
masked kavana wrote:
naw wrote:
Hear, hear!

Sink your teeth into some shitty cellphone photos and words I wrote about my trip to PDX/L&C for the admitted student events: --LinkRemoved--

There's three posts on Portland (I pretty much just created it in my hotel to archive the trip for funsies), and maybe I'll update it with stuff about other schools I visit. Hope you enjoy.


What'd you think if the career services presentation?

The employment stats got me worried...


please share with those of us who couldn't make it! i'm scared now!


They're up online now.. I don't know the exact URL sorry.

They had the whole 80% employed after 9 months but adding up people reporting salaries it ended up being about 70 people total from the class of 2011 (I forget the exact number)

About 10% unemployed and 5% unknown.

I love Portland and the school.. I wish it wasn't so risky :(


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Lewis & Clark People
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I went, visited, and saw the statistics. In the end, it's scary, but they were very honest with what was happening. Hell, even the tour guide person stated he wouldn't have enjoyed his time at L&C if he didn't have a job lined up.

However, being said, I was very impressed despite the flaws. I also am still coming off an endorphin high from traveling across the country looking at law schools, and the fact that I met and chatted with Sam Adams at a bar just before leaving to go to PDX and fly home. Ultimately, L&C is in my final 3.


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