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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:15 am 
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Was it Denienne Steele?


Yep. How'd you guess? Did you get something regarding the other schollies?!

No, you just said it was the person who had sent out all of the emails, so I assumed it was her.

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"The Atlanta Law School Fellowship is a need and merit based scholarship, if awarded recipients must stay in good standing to have their scholarship renewed. Good Standing at Georgia State University College of Law is a 2.2 GPA," Denienne Steele
was the reply. I asked about what the fellowship entailed, and what is looked for in a candidate... so pretty much the same info. we already had. But I guess that means there really isn't anything else to it?


I think someone had already confirmed that there wasn't an interview for ALS. Sounded to me like it was merit & need based ("demonstrate high academic achievement"). If I had to guess I'd say they will look at your financial information and your LSAT/GPA and any academic awards/publications/etc.

I had never seen an actual indication of how many were actually awarded. The data on LSN was generic.


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YAY MOVEMENT!

Got an email that my ALS fellows application was with the trustees!!! Did you guys get one, too? They're working on it! They are "hoping" for a decision by Apr. 1 !


+1 Let's "hope" sooner than that.


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Got my email this morning too.


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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Hey guys, I am currently a 1L at Georgia State and I can attest to the fact that it is a great program. I am around the middle of the class ranking wise, and I already have a job lined up for the summer paying $1000 a week. Our new numbers are about to come out, and we should see a jump in rankings (our class had the best numbers so far). All the big ATL firms interview here, and the cost is impossible to beat. I hope everyone considers matriculation in the Fall, and good luck with law school applications, it is stressful, albeit not nearly as much as law school itself (I am either studying or in class about 80 hours per week)

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Hey guys, I am currently a 1L at Georgia State and I can attest to the fact that it is a great program. I am around the middle of the class ranking wise, and I already have a job lined up for the summer paying $1000 a week. Our new numbers are about to come out, and we should see a jump in rankings (our class had the best numbers so far). All the big ATL firms interview here, and the cost is impossible to beat. I hope everyone considers matriculation in the Fall, and good luck with law school applications, it is stressful, albeit not nearly as much as law school itself (I am either studying or in class about 80 hours per week)

Cheers!


Thanks for reassuring us! I hope you're right about the rankings jump! I have a nice scholly in my current state at a much better ranked school. I don't want to live here though; so, a nice bump would cleanse me of second guesses. Do most people have jobs lined up like you for the summer already?


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panicunited wrote:
Hey guys, I am currently a 1L at Georgia State and I can attest to the fact that it is a great program. I am around the middle of the class ranking wise, and I already have a job lined up for the summer paying $1000 a week. Our new numbers are about to come out, and we should see a jump in rankings (our class had the best numbers so far). All the big ATL firms interview here, and the cost is impossible to beat. I hope everyone considers matriculation in the Fall, and good luck with law school applications, it is stressful, albeit not nearly as much as law school itself (I am either studying or in class about 80 hours per week)

Cheers!


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Supurbia wrote:
panicunited wrote:
Hey guys, I am currently a 1L at Georgia State and I can attest to the fact that it is a great program. I am around the middle of the class ranking wise, and I already have a job lined up for the summer paying $1000 a week. Our new numbers are about to come out, and we should see a jump in rankings (our class had the best numbers so far). All the big ATL firms interview here, and the cost is impossible to beat. I hope everyone considers matriculation in the Fall, and good luck with law school applications, it is stressful, albeit not nearly as much as law school itself (I am either studying or in class about 80 hours per week)

Cheers!


Thanks for reassuring us! I hope you're right about the rankings jump! I have a nice scholly in my current state at a much lower ranked school. I don't want to live here though; so, a nice bump would cleanse me of second guesses. Do most people have jobs lined up like you for the summer already?


Well, most people that I hang around. We have a summer program in Prague that some people are doing, and others are taking classes or judicial clerkships. A a majority of people will be employed, even during the 1L summer. Employers come here, you interview, and get a position. Its pretty easy, and there are a bunch of firms ( I have interviewed 7 times since Feb).

I believe that the location, ranking and cost combine to give you one of the best law school options around. I chose here over UGA because it would be hard to take an internship in Athens (there are no legal jobs in athens), over Emory because of the expense (Im in-state so even with cost of living I am paying a little over 30k, compared to emory's 72k) and really never considered John Marshal (TTT) or Mercer (Similar).


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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Also, you guys will probably have the opportunity to spend a year in the new building were getting (by the time its finished, I will be just out of school)

http://law.gsu.edu/7300.html


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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panicunited wrote:
Also, you guys will probably have the opportunity to spend a year in the new building were getting (by the time its finished, I will be just out of school)

http://law.gsu.edu/7300.html


Well, I take that back. PT students will have the opportunity, unless they break ground early. That will also be a nice boost to the school.


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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panicunited wrote:
panicunited wrote:
Also, you guys will probably have the opportunity to spend a year in the new building were getting (by the time its finished, I will be just out of school)

http://law.gsu.edu/7300.html


Well, I take that back. PT students will have the opportunity, unless they break ground early. That will also be a nice boost to the school.


How are the current facilities? Location? Do you live close/commute? Anything else you want to tell us? Sorry for the questions I'm just having a hard time figuring out my next steps...


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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Ga0-3L wrote:
panicunited wrote:
panicunited wrote:
Also, you guys will probably have the opportunity to spend a year in the new building were getting (by the time its finished, I will be just out of school)

http://law.gsu.edu/7300.html


Well, I take that back. PT students will have the opportunity, unless they break ground early. That will also be a nice boost to the school.


How are the current facilities? Location? Do you live close/commute? Anything else you want to tell us? Sorry for the questions I'm just having a hard time figuring out my next steps...


Well I live in Buckhead now, so its reasonably close to the school (10 mins in good traffic, 30 during rush hour). Right now the school is housed in the Urban life building on floors 1-6ish. Te library is open and controlled by security, so its always super quiet (which is a plus). There are about 20 study rooms that are wired with projectors, whiteboards etc. and available only to law students (they are usually available). The circulation desk allows you to check out cables for connecting your compter to the projectors, dry erase markers etc.

The classrooms are auditorium style for the most part, and other than that its pretty much a standard school/law school set-up. There are plenty of restaurants close to the school, and you can literally spend (an you will) hours here. The only warning that I can give you you is to be wary when outside the realm of the campus, because it is downtown ATL. I have never had any problems, but (like any downtown area) it has the potential to get dicey.

Overall it is great. Facilities at Emory are a bit nicer, but ill keep my 40k a year.

Apologies for the long post, but ill try to be thorough.

The people are great, students and professors alike. We hold an annual PILA auction (where you can bid on taking your property professor out for drinks etc.) and the law school regularly holds networking events where they have open bars etc. Really, the school provides a nice, professional atmosphere.

I have not had to pay for lunch more than 2 times in any given week, as LexisNexis and Westlaw are constantly putting on events during lunch hour in which they provide free lunch. This is nice as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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panicunited wrote:
Ga0-3L wrote:
panicunited wrote:
panicunited wrote:
Also, you guys will probably have the opportunity to spend a year in the new building were getting (by the time its finished, I will be just out of school)

http://law.gsu.edu/7300.html


Well, I take that back. PT students will have the opportunity, unless they break ground early. That will also be a nice boost to the school.


How are the current facilities? Location? Do you live close/commute? Anything else you want to tell us? Sorry for the questions I'm just having a hard time figuring out my next steps...


Well I live in Buckhead now, so its reasonably close to the school (10 mins in good traffic, 30 during rush hour). Right now the school is housed in the Urban life building on floors 1-6ish. Te library is open and controlled by security, so its always super quiet (which is a plus). There are about 20 study rooms that are wired with projectors, whiteboards etc. and available only to law students (they are usually available). The circulation desk allows you to check out cables for connecting your compter to the projectors, dry erase markers etc.

The classrooms are auditorium style for the most part, and other than that its pretty much a standard school/law school set-up. There are plenty of restaurants close to the school, and you can literally spend (an you will) hours here. The only warning that I can give you you is to be wary when outside the realm of the campus, because it is downtown ATL. I have never had any problems, but (like any downtown area) it has the potential to get dicey.

Overall it is great. Facilities at Emory are a bit nicer, but ill keep my 40k a year.

Apologies for the long post, but ill try to be thorough.

The people are great, students and professors alike. We hold an annual PILA auction (where you can bid on taking your property professor out for drinks etc.) and the law school regularly holds networking events where they have open bars etc. Really, the school provides a nice, professional atmosphere.

I have not had to pay for lunch more than 2 times in any given week, as LexisNexis and Westlaw are constantly putting on events during lunch hour in which they provide free lunch. This is nice as well.


Thanks for the info!


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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Well, #s are live. Interesting.

Emory #24

Georgia #34

Georgia State #58


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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kneedrag wrote:
Well, #s are live. Interesting.

Emory #24

Georgia #34

Georgia State #58


Everyone moved up. This does not help me at all. lol. Even Washington and Lee moved up to 24. I guess the fact that William and Mary dropped to 35 takes them out of the equation.


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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kroakstool wrote:
kneedrag wrote:
Well, #s are live. Interesting.

Emory #24

Georgia #34

Georgia State #58


Everyone moved up. This does not help me at all. lol. Even Washington and Lee moved up to 24. I guess the fact that William and Mary dropped to 35 takes them out of the equation.


lol - but realistically, unless someone pulled an Emory and dropped 10+ spots, would it really have mattered? I'd think there are other factors in that range that are going to make a bigger difference (cost, market, specialty, scholarship, location, etc) rather than +/- a few spots on USN (which will likely change before you graduate). No?


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It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


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kneedrag wrote:
It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


Apparently Emory adopted the new employment reporting method that USNWR is pushing and that is why it is so low. Also why they experienced a drop recently. Just what i heard.


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 Post subject: Re: Georgia State University c/o 2015 (2011-2012 cycle)
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kroakstool wrote:
kneedrag wrote:
It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


Apparently Emory adopted the new employment reporting method that USNWR is pushing and that is why it is so low. Also why they experienced a drop recently. Just what i heard.


(I have no idea) but I thought that the speculation was that this year was going to be the first year that everyone was reporting with the new method? (And I thought that was something from USNWR rather than something voluntary).

Are you saying that's also why they dropped from 20-30 a few years back?

I think that's why you're supposed to look at the big picture (tiers, and trends), and not #28 vs #30. The reality is that you didn't have a wholesale change in the universities. At least that was how I was looking at it anyway.

(again, I really have no idea, I don't spend enough time reading these boards :-p )


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kneedrag wrote:
It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


Personally, I can't imagine the "thrill" of graduating from Emory after spending close to 300k and having less than a 60% chance of employment. I would imagine that that number wil increase this year (as will employment across GA schools, and others for that matter) because OCI's are much stronger than pervious years.

In my experience, the 7 interviews I had through OCI, each employer was looking for 10-25 interns for the summer. These were pulled from a class of 200 at GA state. Basically, half the class is already employed. I assume this is par across the board in GA (except for JM and Mercer), and I hope so, as having a state with 3 excellent programs is a huge plus for the overall status of the legal market in Georgia. This keeps firms, like mine (King and Spalding), hiring GA students for GA jobs.

I am happy all 3 schools had a good showing, and especially happy that GA state has the lowest student to faculty ratio, lowest acceptance rate, and lowest cost of the three. This means that you get a good education, have good classmates, and you can leave law school with all appendages in tact (financially).

I truly believe that going to school in GA is a good idea, and I am especially preferential to GA State (obviously), who continues to march up through the rankings. Lets hope that trend continues. All of us here are certainly working our asses off to give the next class a great legal name, which will get you a great legal job. It's working for me, and I am glad I came here over UGA, Emory, W&L etc.
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has anyone heard of or considered living at westmar? http://westmarlofts.com/index.php


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kroakstool wrote:
kneedrag wrote:
It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


Apparently Emory adopted the new employment reporting method that USNWR is pushing and that is why it is so low. Also why they experienced a drop recently. Just what i heard.



The website says:
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The ABA will start requiring more detailed jobs placement data for the 2011 graduating class that will require law schools to reveal such key stats as how many graduates had jobs that are full time or part time, short term or long term, and that actually require the J.D. degree. U.S. News plans to incorporate this more granular data into our methodology for future rankings.


So I think you will not see everyone using the new method for employment reporting until next year's rankings (since they start collecting data for this year's rankings before class of 2011 would have had all of their employment data in). So I guess this could be a cuase for a lot of drops in rankings.


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has anyone heard of or considered living at westmar? http://westmarlofts.com/index.php

4BR / 1450 sq ft for $900/mo? Thats cheap as shit.

I know where those are, can't really comment on living over there. Near some good stuff in W.Midtown, not too bad a drive down to GSU.


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panicunited wrote:
kneedrag wrote:
It will be interesting when someone with more free time (and inside knowledge than me) figures out why they each moved up. Was it the new methods for assessing post graduation statistics? better #s? etc.

On a related note - Emory's post graduation employment numbers look bad among those three, something that really does reflect what I have been hearing speaking to 2L/3Ls and current grads. I suppose one tries to weigh that with salary #s, but I just find those (and I suppose, also the employment numbers) so ridiculously misleading.


Personally, I can't imagine the "thrill" of graduating from Emory after spending close to 300k and having less than a 60% chance of employment. I would imagine that that number wil increase this year (as will employment across GA schools, and others for that matter) because OCI's are much stronger than pervious years.

In my experience, the 7 interviews I had through OCI, each employer was looking for 10-25 interns for the summer. These were pulled from a class of 200 at GA state. Basically, half the class is already employed. I assume this is par across the board in GA (except for JM and Mercer), and I hope so, as having a state with 3 excellent programs is a huge plus for the overall status of the legal market in Georgia. This keeps firms, like mine (King and Spalding), hiring GA students for GA jobs.

I am happy all 3 schools had a good showing, and especially happy that GA state has the lowest student to faculty ratio, lowest acceptance rate, and lowest cost of the three. This means that you get a good education, have good classmates, and you can leave law school with all appendages in tact (financially).

I truly believe that going to school in GA is a good idea, and I am especially preferential to GA State (obviously), who continues to march up through the rankings. Lets hope that trend continues. All of us here are certainly working our asses off to give the next class a great legal name, which will get you a great legal job. It's working for me, and I am glad I came here over UGA, Emory, W&L etc.
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Each employer looking to hire 10-25 interns for summer, get outta here. Sorry guys this is absolutely wrong. Check out NALP for Atlanta firms, they list the total number of 2L SAs. Even the biggest firms only hire 10 for 2L. There are no firms hiring 10-25 for 1Ls.

Very few 1Ls get a paid SA at a firm. If this guy indeed got one with median grades, kudos to him. But that is in no way indicative of most ppl's odds. I think median at State will be fine to get a job for graduation if you hustle and network but it wont be handed to you at all. Certainly not a job from OCI if you are median. HTH


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kneedrag wrote:
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has anyone heard of or considered living at westmar? http://westmarlofts.com/index.php

4BR / 1450 sq ft for $900/mo? Thats cheap as shit.

I know where those are, can't really comment on living over there. Near some good stuff in W.Midtown, not too bad a drive down to GSU.



http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/GA ... 81290.html

MetroPointe = Westmar

I have a Georgia Tech undergrad friend who hated that place, can't vouch because I'm from Athens but the reviews aren't too stellar.


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kneedrag wrote:
bluebubble05 wrote:
has anyone heard of or considered living at westmar? http://westmarlofts.com/index.php

4BR / 1450 sq ft for $900/mo? Thats cheap as shit.

I know where those are, can't really comment on living over there. Near some good stuff in W.Midtown, not too bad a drive down to GSU.



http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/GA ... 81290.html

MetroPointe = Westmar

I have a Georgia Tech undergrad friend who hated that place, can't vouch because I'm from Athens but the reviews aren't too stellar.


omg thank you. i was sold on the place, but after reading reviews after reviews, I'm not even gonna bother to visit the place when I go to Atlanta (I'm coming from California).


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