W&L c/o 2015

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby BKCentral » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:39 pm

I hope USPS fast tracks these scholly letters. The 3 Dean letters took 6 days to get to my apartment, which doesn't bode well for me receiving $$ before I leave my apartment for good on Thursday!

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby john1990 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:45 pm

Bashy wrote:Just got an email from Twitty updating my decision date from the 16th to the 15th. I'm impressed by W&L's turnaround.

Anyone else expecting to hear back at the end of this week?


same here, good luck to everyone expecting a decision Thursday

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby btw384 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:18 pm

Just checking in. Applied on 11/8, in on 12/1, waiting for scholly mailings.

Good luck to everybody expecting decisions this week!

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby mwels7070 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:32 pm

john1990 wrote:
Bashy wrote:Just got an email from Twitty updating my decision date from the 16th to the 15th. I'm impressed by W&L's turnaround.

Anyone else expecting to hear back at the end of this week?


same here, good luck to everyone expecting a decision Thursday


Same as well. W&L has impressed me through the whole application process. They are clearly on top of everything. Makes me wonder why other schools can't do this

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anjmissy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:17 pm

just got the letter..$15,500 per year, maintain a 3.15 gpa..o yeaaa =)

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby aaramil » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:20 pm

Congrats! Do you mind sharing your GPA/LSAT?

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby PrincetonLaw » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 pm

anjmissy wrote:just got the letter..$15,500 per year, maintain a 3.15 gpa..o yeaaa =)


how far from lex are you?

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anjmissy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:33 pm

im an hour from Lexington in Harrisonburg, Va..and lsat 157, gpa 3.1 (i know really low but every semester since freshman year has been 3.4+), also URM

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby hadisious » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:52 pm

Wow, I wonder how much they are weighing URM. That makes me really hopeful I will get substantial cash.

Also, CONGRATS!

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anewaphorist » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:57 pm

Cash is nice, but QOL in Lexington is miserable. 6,000 people, half of whom are students?
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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby hadisious » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:59 pm

anewaphorist wrote:Cash is nice, but QOL in Lexington is miserable. 6,000 people, half of whom are students?

Yeah that's my real worry here; I'm not sure I can stand spending three years in an even smaller city than I live now. However, the W&L degree travels well and the employment pay prospects are good. If the scholarship is right, I can definitely see myself putting some serious consideration into W&L.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anewaphorist » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:01 pm

I went there for undergrad and transferred out. It's definitely only for a certain type of person.
Just an exercise in full disclosure to those considering living in Lex.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby T00L » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:06 pm

anewaphorist wrote:I went there for undergrad and transferred out. It's definitely only for a certain type of person.
Just an exercise in full disclosure to those considering living in Lex.


This is something I need to know more about too. I visited early in the cycle (after applying) and had a major problem with the locale.

Anewaphorist - Can you cite ANY redeeming factor of life in lexington? Do you have to be a I'm-just-really-THAT-into-hiking person to have any fun?

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby hadisious » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:14 pm

I'll be going to the Open House since the travel is subsidized by W&L. But i'm curious to know what the people are like in Lexington and what the general atmosphere is? Lots of undergraduate students? Party houses? or what?

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anewaphorist » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:17 pm

^Hmm. For undergrad, about 90% of the student body was Greek. And that's not an exaggeration. The problem is that at a school as small as W&L, you see these people constantly: in the campus eateries, at the bookstore, and especially "out on the town." I knew law students who would just go to the frats and mooch, because there's so little to do outside of fraternity life. Of course, if your an outdoorsy person--and you happen to disdain social interaction--then it really is the perfect locale. But it's just not a town that's conducive to having a social life, unless that's in the basement of one of the ~15 lavish frats.

The school has tried to play down the conservative, country-club image in recent years, and they've tried to diversify their student body racially. But the only way they've done that is through increased merit scholarships,. The general consensus when I went there was, "Good luck finding a median minority student." Kappa Alpha was founded at W&L, and that yearning for the ancien-regime confederacy is a little off-putting. So you've got: (a) non-merit kids who have lots of money and go there for the parties, (b) white merit kids who are torn between selling their souls to the more "brainy" frats or being a social pariah (nearly all of whom opt for the former), and (c) racially diverse bright kids who comprise that 10% whose lives are fulfilled by a combination of studying and secluding themselves. If you think you fall in some (d) category, let me assure you of your eventual conformity to this system, even though you want to be a law student. The bottom line is that the undergrads "rule" the social scene according to these strata.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby Maillot Jaune » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:37 pm

Oh what's up prospectives! I'm currently a 2L at W&L law and I have to say that the quality of life here is excellent. Yes, it's a small town. Yes, sometimes the smallness gets to you. But seriously, this would happen to you in a big city, too. Honestly, the people here are great, the activities that W&L puts on for you are awesome, and the surrounding areas that you can visit on the weekends are spectacular. Also, i know this assertion is incredibly overused - but you really don't need to be in a big hopping metropolis during law school. Too many distractions and too expensive.

People: All of the law students here are incredibly nice and welcoming and the smallness of the law school creates a great feeling of community, comeraderie, and family. At other, bigger law schools, it's incredibly difficult to find this sort of dynamic. You don't really have to deal with the super greek undergrad at all, and while the undergrads might be super preppy and fratted out, the law school is incredibly dynamic and is composed of all different kinds of people. Due to this close community, you develop much closer relationships with other students and your professors. The level of competition among students is low as a result, as well. You're mostly competing with yourself to do YOUR best...nobody steals books on reserve here.

Activities: W&L keeps you occupied like nobody's business. There are intramural sports (floor hockey, basketball, golf, and awesome flag football where the school provides kegs on the law school lawn), parties with great bands that people actually go to, etc. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with all of the fun stuff going on!

Surrounding areas: Charlottesville (home of UVa, a great small town with tons of shopping and awesome restaurants, concert venues, etc. - only an hour away), Richmond (capital of VA, cool and eclectic, etc. - only 2 hours away), and DC (you better know what this is. Only 3 hours away.). People make weekend trips to these cities all the time if they ever want to try something new for the weekend.

Hope this helps anybody concerned about the quality of life issue in Lexington...because it really isn't an issue - LexVegas is great! PM me if you have any other questions.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby Maillot Jaune » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:41 pm

OH and PS - Undergrads certainly do not "rule" the social scene in Lexington. Yes, they rule their own frats/srats. But, law students do not go to frat parties (unless they went there undergrad and want to visit their friends). There are a handful of bars in Lexington, and basically the law students rule them (with the occasional group of VMI students here and there). The undergrad is pretty strict about fake IDs and you can get kicked out of school for using one, so you rarely see undergrads at the bar...at least in my personal experience.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby RoddyFlynn » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:09 pm

All,

I'm a 3L...and I definitely understand the concerns about quality of life in Lexington. It was absolutely my biggest concern about coming here. I went to undergrad in DC and have basically been a city person my whole life. I'm also openly gay and was really concerned about the fratty, conservative reputation.

Up front, I want to say...it's not for everyone. One of the things I really appreciated about W&L is that the school is really honest with you, they aren't just looking for ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY to come here, like a lot of other schools are...they really want you to figure out if this place is for you. So, I think even if you were to talk to someone in admissions, or someone paid to represent the school or something, they'd be honest about the fact that W&L/Lexington is not for everyone.

So, really, you have to visit to get a completely accurate impression. But I'll share my thoughts after having lived here for the past two and a half years.

1) The school is not nearly as conservative as you would think. I think its right-of-center politically, in terms of the student body's politics, but there is an incredibly amount of diversity of thought and position that is very actively discussed. I went to a very political school undergrad, and the thing I think thats better about W&L is people are way more respectful of differing positions and different lifestyles.

2) Oooo yeah, this school is small. Really small. The big pros: great sense of community, great social scene, tons of individual academic attention, tons of flexibility on behalf of the administrators. The big con: after the first two weeks you've met everybody. And that's a pretty big con. You really have to think about what you want in a school. One thing I miss a lot when i'm here...I never feel anonymous. In a city you can just go out and be alone in a crowd of people...you CANNOT do that here. But I think you have to really give a lot of thought to what's more important to you: do you want Professors to respond to your e-mails quickly, do you want a study group who will actually work together and not compete, or do you want to be able to have easy escapes?

3) This is the most cooperative, non-competitive places on earth. Some people, who thrive on being cut-throat, would hate that...and they shouldn't come here. I would have been miserable and a failure here as an undergrad, because at that time in my life I needed competition to motivate myself. But now I don't need that kind of external reinforcement to get motivated, so I'm doing fine.

4) There are five bars, and probably about a dozen restaurants. Lots of people cook...there are a ton of "progressive dinners" and brunches that people throw, but the food/bar options are totally lacking. If you need diversity of social scene, that may be a concern. It's been hard for me as a gay guy...but the GLBT students get together and travel to charlottesville or DC and go to gay bars and stuff. We've found it doable and not that big of a problem, but if you're someone who loves to go to new dance bars, or likes doing Thai food one night and Ethiopian the next night...that might be a problem. In law school you don't have a TON of time to go out anyway, but i could understand someone who would want to really have a lot of options when they DO choose to go out.

5) I love the undergrads. Some people don't interact with them, but I think they're grand. My ugrad didn't have frats or anything, but I love the frat parties here. I go to them all the time, it's so fun.

If you have any questions or wanna chat more, reply or PM me.

--Roddy

These are my thoughts of-the-moment.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby 3LatWL » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:14 pm

I actually had very similar concerns when I was going through the application/decision process a few years ago. As I'm sure you can guess from my username, I'm now a 3L at Washington and Lee. I grew up in Los Angeles, CA the majority of my life and then attended University of Maryland (right outside of D.C.) for my undergraduate studies. I'm not an "outdoorsy person" by any stretch of the imagination, and I wondered whether I would be able to "survive" living in Lexington for three years. Most of my doubts were erased after visiting the school, and now looking back, I can honestly say I have no regrets and it really was a great decision.

First of all, law students and undergraduates very rarely mingle. Yes, we share the same gym, and many of their resources (library, dining hall, etc.) are available to us- but socially, it's rare. Also, for better or for worse, the undergraduate population seems a lot more homogeneous than the law school's.

Next, Lexington's "nightlife" is limited; there is no disputing that. But, I have to hand it to the school and our student bar association, because they do a great job in putting together events that brings the entire study body together. Ranging from kegs flowing during LSFL (Law School Football League, a W&L tradition, co-ed intramural league) games on Friday afternoons, to Cocktail parties- it's a lot of fun! House parties are also common, especially in February when we have Feb Club, a month of awesome theme parties, which concludes with Barrister's Ball (think Law School Prom). Of course there are times when I am frustrated that Lexington doesn't have the simple things I used to take for granted (Starbucks, mall, Chipotle...), but at the end of the day, it's really not that bad. The school has so much to offer, and you just suck it up and realize it's worth it.

I look at law school as an investment- in terms of time, money, energy, and everything else- it's an investment. For me, W&L was a place that I knew I would be surrounded by good people and motivated to work hard. My professors and administrators actually know me by name, and with their open door policy, everyone is easily accessible. In my two and a half years here, I've worked my butt off, partied my fair share, and made great friends.

With that said, W&L may not be for everyone. For any law school, there are so many factors to consider. Come for a visit, and check it out yourself :)

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby T00L » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:26 pm

For the record, I think it's a definite positive that a bunch of current students jumped in here very quickly and wrote lengthy responses to our Lexington worries. At the very least, we know these students are quick to support their school.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby JDizzle2015 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:32 pm

Current students: do you get paid for your answers on the facebook group (or maybe some other incentive)? Not that it's a bad thing but the responses seem a bit unreal.

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby ThreeRivers » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:35 pm

Semi-off topic, but I'm kind of confused by the connection of frat / rich preppy kids. As someone from the North I thought that was only in movies? Is that really the characteristics of Southern frats? lol

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby ThreeRivers » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:36 pm

JDizzle2015 wrote:Current students: do you get paid for your answers on the facebook group (or maybe some other incentive)? Not that it's a bad thing but the responses seem a bit unreal.

Yea, I LOVE W&L admissions... the "Thanks for your interest in W&L and congrats on your acceptance!" responses from 10 got a little annoying / started to sound too much like a sales person lol

Still, an amazing / the best admission staff / process though

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby ThreeRivers » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:47 pm

BKCentral wrote:I hope USPS fast tracks these scholly letters. The 3 Dean letters took 6 days to get to my apartment, which doesn't bode well for me receiving $$ before I leave my apartment for good on Thursday!

Really?

I was shocked, I'm from Pittsburgh and it came the next day

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Re: W&L c/o 2015

Postby anjmissy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:53 pm

it is me or does it seem weird that when someone questions social life, the following answer focuses on bars..um what about movie theaters and parks..lol




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