shredderrrrrr wrote:Sebastian: Once again, I was referring to success in law school, not my career. I believe it was chrisbru that pointed out the importance of networking in a firm and I agreed he was right. So your point about needing to be comfortable in bars is right on. The part about drinking still seems weak though. A client will feel uncomfortable if their lawyer isn't drinking with them? ... Are you telling me that a guy socializing in a bar with water will bring in less business than the same guy socializing in a bar with alcohol?
Yes. Here's an anecdote: my wife is a professional (manager) in a client-oriented financial field. It is common knowledge (and not the least bit controversial, frankly) among her peers that it's best to order a glass of wine at dinner with the client. First, by ordering a glass, you signal to the client that it's ok if they want to drink. Second, a stupidly high proportion of senior executives in finance drink alcohol, and they tend to distrust those who don't for a number of reasons (feel they are being judged, feel the non-drinker is insecure and afraid to let go and socialize, they have more fun when they drink and think the non-drinker will be boring, etc.). All of these factors are amplified in any sales context, because people are reluctant to buy things from people they don't trust. And your post earlier about how stupid it is to go to a bar just to listen to loud music and be around drunk people shows that their concerns are justified: you probably are
judging them, and you're probably not interested in socializing with them because you'd rather be home playing MW3 with your girlfriend, as you also stated! As you can see, it's not the non-drinking that's so much an issue as the other comments you made betraying how you feel about those who drink and about your aversion to socializing. Those characteristics tend to go along with non-drinkers, and drinkers know that. They react accordingly, and that reaction is arguably rational.
shredderrrrrr wrote:What about non-drinkers feeling uncomfortable having drinkers drink in front of them? I really don't see it being a major problem.
Regarding your question of whether it's the same thing as non-drinkers being uncomfortable around drinkers: yeah, it's probably the same. Unfortunately for you, most people in this profession are drinkers. If most were non-drinkers, and these social events occurred at, like, the YMCA instead of at bars, then it would probably be the case that those who drink would make others uncomfortable and be at a disadvantage. That's simply not the case, however.