IOWA 2012

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:44 pm

Opie wrote:Anyone have Hovenkamp this Friday at 11:30? I may be sitting in.


This isn't a 1L class, is it? The only 11:30 1L class is LAWR, not sure the professor. Otherwise you'd have an 8:20-10:20 or 10:30-12:30 class.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:12 pm

chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:Anyone have Hovenkamp this Friday at 11:30? I may be sitting in.


This isn't a 1L class, is it? The only 11:30 1L class is LAWR, not sure the professor. Otherwise you'd have an 8:20-10:20 or 10:30-12:30 class.


No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:11 pm

Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:34 pm

chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was something to do with antitrust law. Isn't that a specialty of his?

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby EMAW12 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:38 pm

Checking in.

Iowa is at the top of my list, and will, in all likelihood, remain there. Hopefully the application will be sent within the next few weeks.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:46 am

EMAW12 wrote:Checking in.

Iowa is at the top of my list, and will, in all likelihood, remain there. Hopefully the application will be sent within the next few weeks.


Welcome, the sooner the better!


Opie wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was something to do with antitrust law. Isn't that a specialty of his?


Yup!

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby typ3 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:17 am

Opie wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was something to do with antitrust law. Isn't that a specialty of his?

Might be an understatement to say it's his specialty. Taken from the Harvard Law Review.

"Herbert Hovenkamp is the most influential antitrust scholar of our generation."

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:24 am

typ3 wrote:
Opie wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was something to do with antitrust law. Isn't that a specialty of his?

Might be an understatement to say it's his specialty. Taken from the Harvard Law Review.

"Herbert Hovenkamp is the most influential antitrust scholar of our generation."


Go to bed. You have early class.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:15 am

typ3 wrote:
Opie wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
Opie wrote:
No, it's trusts I think. Not a 1L class.


Didn't know Hovie taught Trusts. Nice. That's an elective possibility for spring for 1L's, but with Hines.

Now that I think about it, maybe it was something to do with antitrust law. Isn't that a specialty of his?

Might be an understatement to say it's his specialty. Taken from the Harvard Law Review.

"Herbert Hovenkamp is the most influential antitrust scholar of our generation."


Yeah, after I typed that I looked up his Wikipedia entry. Pretty impressive. He didn't just edit the book he uses, he edited the book basically everybody uses.

Is he a good teacher? I'd love to take classes from him.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby typ3 » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:36 am

chrisbru wrote:
Go to bed. You have early class.


11:30 is early?

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby MoS » Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:40 am

Opie wrote:Anyone have Hovenkamp this Friday at 11:30? I may be sitting in.


I have the class. It's Antitrust, and it starts at 11. What did you want to know?

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby brupe » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:32 am

I turned my app in the second week of August. Just sitting back and relaxing until I get my inevitable denial :)

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Slimpee » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:37 am

Opie wrote:
Is he a good teacher? I'd love to take classes from him.


I had him for IP and plan to take Antitrust. I was suprised at how pleasant and engaging he was in IP. He told interesting stories, made jokes, went at a reasonable pace, took plenty of time for questions and gave time for discussion outside of class as well.

I would recommend taking a class from him...

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:45 am

Slimpee wrote:
Opie wrote:
Is he a good teacher? I'd love to take classes from him.


I had him for IP and plan to take Antitrust. I was suprised at how pleasant and engaging he was in IP. He told interesting stories, made jokes, went at a reasonable pace, took plenty of time for questions and gave time for discussion outside of class as well.

I would recommend taking a class from him...


Hey 2L's (or 3L's) Any recommendations on these possible electives?


Business Associations Kurtz
Comparative Law Reitz
Crim Pro: Investigation Yung
EU Law Somek
Fed Indian Law Estin
Intro to Intel Property Rantanen
Labor Law Linder
Mediation Gittler
Negotiations Wetlaufer
Sports Law Johnson
Trusts and Estates Hines






ETA:


typ3 wrote:
chrisbru wrote:
Go to bed. You have early class.


11:30 is early?



Guess not. Forgot you were one of the anomaly sections. Was thinking everyone except me and sec 4 had 8:20 class today.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:00 pm

MoS wrote:
Opie wrote:Anyone have Hovenkamp this Friday at 11:30? I may be sitting in.


I have the class. It's Antitrust, and it starts at 11. What did you want to know?


Just if it is indicative of the rest of the classes at Iowa (obviously 1L classes are going to vary somewhat from this). I'll probably be in the class Friday. If I can get there by 11 that is.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Yellowtree » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:09 am

How long is it taking for you guys to get an email from them after you've submitted the app. Most school I've applied to send me an email telling me they received my app the next day. Sent app to Iowa two days ago and haven't gotten anything yet

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby neeko » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:18 am

Yellowtree wrote:How long is it taking for you guys to get an email from them after you've submitted the app. Most school I've applied to send me an email telling me they received my app the next day. Sent app to Iowa two days ago and haven't gotten anything yet


I submitted mine on the 25th and just got the login info an hour or so ago.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:49 am

I made it to campus on time and an
Waiting for class to begin. Admissions was really nice.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Yellowtree » Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:17 pm

neeko wrote:
Yellowtree wrote:How long is it taking for you guys to get an email from them after you've submitted the app. Most school I've applied to send me an email telling me they received my app the next day. Sent app to Iowa two days ago and haven't gotten anything yet


I submitted mine on the 25th and just got the login info an hour or so ago.


Ok Thanks!

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Opie » Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:47 pm

Tonight only: I'm in Iowa City. If anyone wants to meet up. I'm going out soon.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby MoS » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:35 pm

Opie wrote:
MoS wrote:
Opie wrote:Anyone have Hovenkamp this Friday at 11:30? I may be sitting in.


I have the class. It's Antitrust, and it starts at 11. What did you want to know?


Just if it is indicative of the rest of the classes at Iowa (obviously 1L classes are going to vary somewhat from this). I'll probably be in the class Friday. If I can get there by 11 that is.


The professor all have their own style. Hovenkamp is big on telling you the back story of a case. I had him for torts and now antitrust. Sometimes you are not sure what you should be taking notes on, but I always learn something interesting. The class you sat in on, was a pretty typical law school class. Normally we don't cover as many cases as we did on Friday in antitrust, but with the exception of Matsumotto's con law, the pace of the class on Friday was what you should expect in a class.

chrisbru wrote:
Slimpee wrote:
Opie wrote:
Is he a good teacher? I'd love to take classes from him.


I had him for IP and plan to take Antitrust. I was suprised at how pleasant and engaging he was in IP. He told interesting stories, made jokes, went at a reasonable pace, took plenty of time for questions and gave time for discussion outside of class as well.

I would recommend taking a class from him...


Hey 2L's (or 3L's) Any recommendations on these possible electives?


Business Associations Kurtz
Comparative Law Reitz
Crim Pro: Investigation Yung
EU Law Somek
Fed Indian Law Estin
Intro to Intel Property Rantanen
Labor Law Linder
Mediation Gittler
Negotiations Wetlaufer
Sports Law Johnson
Trusts and Estates Hines



Bus. Assoc. is actually a pretty good class, but I don't know how it is with Kurtz. If you haven't had him, ask another section what they think of him.

Comparative Law, is a bitch of a class, from what I remember people saying last year. It's not as interesting as it sounds and the final is a take home exam that requires about 20 pages of writing.

I think Yung is a visiting professor. If you think you will end up working legal aid or at a prosecutors office for the summer. I think it would be a good choice.

Somek is Austrian, he has a very entertaining lecture style. It's like to be a very lofty class (theory or philosophy heavy)

I don't see the point of Indian law unless you think you will be practicing in an area where that will be important. Estin has high expectations but is a great professor.

People like Rantanen, and IP is a hot field especially if you have a hard science background. Hovenkamp taught this last year and there was a ton of reading.

Labor law, from what I hear is a typical Linder class. I like Linder's style, but a lot of people do not. Ask you friend about him.

I don't know much about Mediation or Gitler.

From what I hear Negotiations is a great class, but the final is tough. Wetlaufer is great, but a little off, you watch a lot of movie clips in this class.

No idea about Sprots law, I think they have offered it two years in a row now, but hadn't the few years before that.

Hines was the Dean of the law school for 20 some years. His expertise is property, which trusts and estates would fall into. He has some crazy multiple choice tests from what I hear.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby typ3 » Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:56 pm

Happy Halloween everyone! See you all at The Summit for the ISBA party. Props to the Cartel for the bumpin party last night.

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby Yellowtree » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:51 pm

162/3.1, oos, non-urm asian, chances?

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby chrisbru » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:07 am

Yellowtree wrote:162/3.1, oos, non-urm asian, chances?


Unfortunately, slim to none. You're looking at Tier 2 schools. Use this site as a guide, but it is not 100% accurate:
http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com

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Re: IOWA 2012

Postby shredderrrrrr » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:31 am

Hey all! Really helpful information!

I grew up in Iowa City until college and hope to come back for law school. It really is a great place. I currently live in a horrible college town and am envious of all the awesome places IC has to offer (ecspecially food places like Mesa, Shorts, Hamburg Inn, Pagliais, etc...).

What are your thoughts on a 166/3.8 non-URM applicant in regards to scholarships? And how long does it typically take to hear back once you submit (I submitted on Friday)?




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