William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby vissidarte27 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:07 am

lrslayer wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Anyone else besides me and Scrabble champ in the "complete in early November but still no decision group?" :(

i was complete 10-27 and no love yet
probably bad i guess


I'm in the same group. Complete 11/2, nothing yet. I guess that means WL or a flat-out rejection?

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ThreeRivers » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:50 am

Scrabble has a 177 / 3.8 so I'm doubting it means that much....

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby clarion » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:10 am

"Congratulations! Admit Package Mailed" for me! My first acceptance :) And for those who might be curious, that was posted on my status checker yesterday (11/10) and I went complete on 11/8.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:08 am

ThreeRivers wrote:Anyone else besides me and Scrabble champ in the "complete in early November but still no decision group?" :(

Me. It could be the way they structure their admits so as to protect their medians.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ScrabbleChamp » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:34 am

Cornelius wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Anyone else besides me and Scrabble champ in the "complete in early November but still no decision group?" :(

Me. It could be the way they structure their admits so as to protect their medians.


I'm a learned man, but I don't understand the statement... please explain...
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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ThreeRivers » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:44 am

< My complete speculation / no real basis behind it

They probably divide up applications among different adcoms who then place it in “admit, deny, discuss with other” piles… We just have someone who’s taking a little longer than the other admcoms..

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:51 am

ScrabbleChamp wrote:
Cornelius wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Anyone else besides me and Scrabble champ in the "complete in early November but still no decision group?" :(

Me. It could be the way they structure their admits so as to protect their medians.


I'm a learned man, but I don't understand the statement... please explain...

Let in a 162/4.0, let in a 174 3.3 to balance. There's a complicated system behind deciding who to admit to ensure they meet their median goals.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ThreeRivers » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:53 am

Cornelius wrote:
ScrabbleChamp wrote:
Cornelius wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Anyone else besides me and Scrabble champ in the "complete in early November but still no decision group?" :(

Me. It could be the way they structure their admits so as to protect their medians.


I'm a learned man, but I don't understand the statement... please explain...

Let in a 162/4.0, let in a 174 3.3 to balance. There's a complicated system behind deciding who to admit to ensure they meet their median goals.

Ok... but there are people who are well above both medians who have been waiting longer than everyone else

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stillwater » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:57 am

ThreeRivers wrote:Ok... but there are people who are well above both medians who have been waiting longer than everyone else


Yield protection? Though I didn't think W&M was one of the bigger culprits of this.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:49 am

ThreeRivers wrote:Ok... but there are people who are well above both medians who have been waiting longer than everyone else

Like I said, who knows. I doubt it's a simple "do it based on when they submitted" order in the decision making process.

People are needlessly freaking out. It could easily be that some members of the ad comm are simply quicker in getting through the applications than others.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby auburnbelle89 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:03 pm

Good luck to everyone still waiting. I wish I knew what was up with their decision timeline. I'm anxiously awaiting my admit packed. Does anyone have any idea when ASW is? Couldn't find the info on their webpage, though I didn't have time to stalk it incessantly.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby AntipodeanPhil » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:05 pm

auburnbelle89 wrote:Good luck to everyone still waiting. I wish I knew what was up with their decision timeline. I'm anxiously awaiting my admit packed. Does anyone have any idea when ASW is? Couldn't find the info on their webpage, though I didn't have time to stalk it incessantly.

I believe it is the 30th & 31st of March - unfortunately late, imo.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby UnamSanctam » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:10 pm

Cornelius wrote:People are needlessly freaking out.


+1

It's early-mid November, people.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:11 pm

I just submitted

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ThreeRivers » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:20 pm

Cornelius wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Ok... but there are people who are well above both medians who have been waiting longer than everyone else

Like I said, who knows. I doubt it's a simple "do it based on when they submitted" order in the decision making process.

People are needlessly freaking out. It could easily be that some members of the ad comm are simply quicker in getting through the applications than others.

Lol which is what I stated originally

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:54 pm

ThreeRivers wrote:
Cornelius wrote:
ThreeRivers wrote:Ok... but there are people who are well above both medians who have been waiting longer than everyone else

Like I said, who knows. I doubt it's a simple "do it based on when they submitted" order in the decision making process.

People are needlessly freaking out. It could easily be that some members of the ad comm are simply quicker in getting through the applications than others.

Lol which is what I stated originally

I know, literacy is one of my many talents. The point being none of us knows how the committee works through the process, and it's still very early, so:

Image

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:00 pm

MiamiOxford wrote:Does anyone have experience or know anything about gaining Virginia residency/in-state tuition in the second and third years? Is this a fairly easy process, or what? It would certainly help the tuition debt if I could claim residency for two years. I am from Ohio fwiw.


It's not something you can do. You have to live in VA for a year PRIOR to enrolling in any state school to be considered for residency. So you could move now, wait until the 2013 entering class, and get in-state. Otherwise, you'll be considered OOS through your entire stay.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby franklyscarlet » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:12 pm

recent admits, has anyone gotten their packet yet? I want to hold it in my hands so I know it's real...

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby skirkland » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:26 pm

I got mine in the mail 2 days before I was even notified via email. I don't know if there is a definitive pattern they are following here since some received an email before the package.

My package came via USPS 2 day priority envelope.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:35 pm

Holy stuff... I just looked at LSN for W&M and there is a lot of green over there. I think my chances might be low now given how many people they've accepted before I even got my application in. I just submitted my app this morning.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:44 pm

JoeMo wrote:Holy stuff... I just looked at LSN for W&M and there is a lot of green over there. I think my chances might be low now given how many people they've accepted before I even got my application in. I just submitted my app this morning.

Keep the selection bias in mind. Only on TLS is early November considered a late app.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby bluebird22 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:23 pm

JoeMo wrote:
MiamiOxford wrote:Does anyone have experience or know anything about gaining Virginia residency/in-state tuition in the second and third years? Is this a fairly easy process, or what? It would certainly help the tuition debt if I could claim residency for two years. I am from Ohio fwiw.


It's not something you can do. You have to live in VA for a year PRIOR to enrolling in any state school to be considered for residency. So you could move now, wait until the 2013 entering class, and get in-state. Otherwise, you'll be considered OOS through your entire stay.



Not quite right. You do have to live in VA for a year before you can be considered for residency but after your 1L year, you can apply for in-state residency. Just make sure you change your driver's license, title on car, register to vote and file taxes in VA. I know quite a few people who have done this and received in state tuition their 2L and 3L years. Also, your scholarship may be dependent on being an out of state student so you may want to take that into consideration as well.

I'm a current 2L here at w&m so feel free to ask any questions. I'm studying for finals but I'll check back periodically! I hope to see all of you next fall!!

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:29 pm

bluebird22 wrote:
JoeMo wrote:
MiamiOxford wrote:Does anyone have experience or know anything about gaining Virginia residency/in-state tuition in the second and third years? Is this a fairly easy process, or what? It would certainly help the tuition debt if I could claim residency for two years. I am from Ohio fwiw.


It's not something you can do. You have to live in VA for a year PRIOR to enrolling in any state school to be considered for residency. So you could move now, wait until the 2013 entering class, and get in-state. Otherwise, you'll be considered OOS through your entire stay.



Not quite right. You do have to live in VA for a year before you can be considered for residency but after your 1L year, you can apply for in-state residency. Just make sure you change your driver's license, title on car, register to vote and file taxes in VA. I know quite a few people who have done this and received in state tuition their 2L and 3L years. Also, your scholarship may be dependent on being an out of state student so you may want to take that into consideration as well.

I'm a current 2L here at w&m so feel free to ask any questions. I'm studying for finals but I'll check back periodically! I hope to see all of you next fall!!


Q: Can I establish "in-state" status while I am a student?
A: If you are a dependent and your parent(s) or spouse moves to Virginia while you are in school and fulfills the requirements of domicile, you should petition for a change of status effective 12 months after the move. If you entered classified as an out-of-state student, you must present clear and convincing evidence to rebut the presumption that you are residing in the State primarily to attend school. Residence or physical presence in Virginia primarily to attend the University does not entitle you to in-state tuition rates.

So this is what I was referring to. If the only reason you're in the state is to go to school then the only way to establish residency would be to move a year prior.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby MiamiOxford » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:33 pm

Good info guys. It seems to me that as long as you show intent to live in Virginia "for good" and establish yourself via voting, paying taxes, etc., then it is not that difficult.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby JoeMo » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:35 pm

MiamiOxford wrote:Good info guys. It seems to me that as long as you show intent to live in Virginia "for good" and establish yourself via voting, paying taxes, etc., then it is not that difficult.


This would be correct... I just assume most people only move there for school, as would be the case for me. Even though if I end up working in DC then I might stay in VA but not sure.




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