William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby citykitty » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:18 pm

citykitty wrote:
stillwater wrote:
citykitty wrote:Dang! Why does my mail come so late??? I'm closer than FL or PA.


Today is the latest Saturday delivery of regular mail I can remember...


My mail consistently came between noon and 1pm for about 3 years (ever since I moved here). And, then last year they moved all the routes around, and now I'm lucky if I have mail before 5pm.



Showed up early today at 4:15p. LOL

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stillwater » Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:40 pm

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby westinghouse60 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:08 am

Should I put anything for the "factors influencing GPA" section? I feel stupid leaving it blank since I have a only ~3.4 overall with a very strong upward grade trend, but the only reason for poor performance early on was not taking ADD medication/lack of motivation overall.

I don't plan on submitting any GPA addenda anywhere else, though I hate to say, yep, 3.4 totally reflects my performance.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby oldad » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:51 am

westinghouse60 wrote:Should I put anything for the "factors influencing GPA" section? I feel stupid leaving it blank since I have a only ~3.4 overall with a very strong upward grade trend, but the only reason for poor performance early on was not taking ADD medication/lack of motivation overall.

I don't plan on submitting any GPA addenda anywhere else, though I hate to say, yep, 3.4 totally reflects my performance.


Talk about overcoming ADD. Talk about how you got a grasp on it and it led to better performance later on, which is more indicative of your ability to succeed in law school.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby top30man » Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:46 am

oldad wrote:
westinghouse60 wrote:Should I put anything for the "factors influencing GPA" section? I feel stupid leaving it blank since I have a only ~3.4 overall with a very strong upward grade trend, but the only reason for poor performance early on was not taking ADD medication/lack of motivation overall.

I don't plan on submitting any GPA addenda anywhere else, though I hate to say, yep, 3.4 totally reflects my performance.


Talk about overcoming ADD. Talk about how you got a grasp on it and it led to better performance later on, which is more indicative of your ability to succeed in law school.

I would do that too. Focus on that over the lack of motivation thing. Also the consensus seems to be to keep it on the shorter side.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Hopefully2012 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:32 pm

Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.

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Postby ThreeRivers » Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:25 pm

Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.

No, but it doesn't surprise me have such things. My friend got a scholarship dependent upon him first getting a year of we (which no surprise was from nu)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby top30man » Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:02 pm

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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.

I agree. Plus, working as a research assistant could marginally help come OCI.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stillwater » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:44 pm

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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.


I was curious about this as well. Does scholarship money usually come with these stipulations?

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby top30man » Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:57 pm

stillwater wrote:
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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.


I was curious about this as well. Does scholarship money usually come with these stipulations?

Most schools just have GPA stips. I have not heard of other schools doing something like this.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stillwater » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:02 pm

top30man wrote:
stillwater wrote:
thatkid wrote:
Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.


I was curious about this as well. Does scholarship money usually come with these stipulations?

Most schools just have GPA stips. I have not heard of other schools doing something like this.


I know this isn't all too uncommon in undergrad. I just haven't heard of other law schools doing so.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby beezy08 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:22 pm

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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.


I am confused because I applied for a fellowship and didn't get it but it, sounds like you didn't apply for a fellowship and got one (I am assuming you would know what it was if you had applied). I got a merit scholarship, though. Call me greedy, but I would have liked both...

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby thatkid » Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:32 pm

beezy08 wrote:
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Hopefully2012 wrote:Does anyone else's scholarship offer include a stipulation of working ~8hr/week at the law library/admin office? Is this normal for a merit scholarship? Seems a little strange to me since I've only heard of GPA stips.



Yes. If you read closely, it's actually a "fellowship," (or at least mine was) which often entails work. The plus side is that ~8 hours a week does not normally pay quite as much money as was attached.


I am confused because I applied for a fellowship and didn't get it but it, sounds like you didn't apply for a fellowship and got one (I am assuming you would know what it was if you had applied). I got a merit scholarship, though. Call me greedy, but I would have liked both...


I obviously can't speak for Hopefully2012, but I know my particular fellowship was one specifically for out of state kids that brings tuition down to in-state, which was then complemented by some scholarship money. It wasn't one that you could apply for, and if I became a Virginia resident, I would lose it.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby scottybared » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:45 pm

I did the math and it seems that my fellowship is essentially $17-$18 an hour to do administrative/library stuff during 1L and then working on research projects with faculty during 2L and 3L. Plus the in-state tuition perk. Doesn't seem that bad to me, since it seems that it would lead to good opportunities for relationships with faculty members.

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Postby top30man » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:00 pm

scottybared wrote:I did the math and it seems that my fellowship is essentially $17-$18 an hour to do administrative/library stuff during 1L and then working on research projects with faculty during 2L and 3L. Plus the in-state tuition perk. Doesn't seem that bad to me, since it seems that it would lead to good opportunities for relationships with faculty members.

Agreed.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stingray » Sun Nov 06, 2011 9:02 pm

scottybared wrote:I did the math and it seems that my fellowship is essentially $17-$18 an hour to do administrative/library stuff during 1L and then working on research projects with faculty during 2L and 3L. Plus the in-state tuition perk. Doesn't seem that bad to me, since it seems that it would lead to good opportunities for relationships with faculty members.


I wonder if you will receive weekly compensation for the actual work, in addition to the scholly; or is the scholarship alone considered to be the payment? I agree that the work would be a good opportunity. I'm still waiting on my packet, but I actually hope that I have the work stipulation attached to it.
Did anyone from the first round of acceptances not receive a scholly? I'm still nervous that I won't get one.

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Postby barcafan » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:13 pm

I wonder if you will receive weekly compensation for the actual work, in addition to the scholly; or is the scholarship alone considered to be the payment? I agree that the work would be a good opportunity. I'm still waiting on my packet, but I actually hope that I have the work stipulation attached to it.
Did anyone from the first round of acceptances not receive a scholly? I'm still nervous that I won't get one.



I didn't receive one, but from what I've read, I'm in the extreme minority (translated: I am literally the only one).

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby AP-375 » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:51 pm

Hey guys,
Current 1L at W&M checking in. Congrats to those admitted. I saw a few questions about the school on previous pages.
I haven't been through OCI yet, but I've talked to a lot of people, so if I can help out with any specific questions, feel free to shoot here or PM...

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Postby jbabs » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:34 am

AP-375 wrote:Hey guys,
Current 1L at W&M checking in. Congrats to those admitted. I saw a few questions about the school on previous pages.
I haven't been through OCI yet, but I've talked to a lot of people, so if I can help out with any specific questions, feel free to shoot here or PM...


Thanks for taking the time to answer questions; your insight is very much appreciated.

1. From your point of view, how's the employment outlook at W&M? Are people faring relatively well, or is there an ominous feeling of impending doom looming over everyone?

2. I know you haven't gone through OCI, but, from what you've heard, how insular are the Virginia legal markets? (i.e. how much do employers dislike OOS students?)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby stingray » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:09 pm

Waiting on the postman. Anyone else from the first group of admits not receive their packet yet?

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby MiamiOxford » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:12 pm

Not to take over the thread, but I'm not sure where to ask this question. I was accepted to William and Mary, with a pretty nice scholarship; still have to hear back from the rest of my schools, including the Ivy's. Is it possible to negotiate scholarships at all with a school (specifically William and Mary)? How do I go about saying "give me more" without sounding like a horrible person? :?

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Postby top30man » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:15 pm

stingray wrote:Waiting on the postman. Anyone else from the first group of admits not receive their packet yet?

Still waiting in western pa.

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Postby top30man » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:17 pm

MiamiOxford wrote:Not to take over the thread, but I'm not sure where to ask this question. I was accepted to William and Mary, with a pretty nice scholarship; still have to hear back from the rest of my schools, including the Ivy's. Is it possible to negotiate scholarships at all with a school (specifically William and Mary)? How do I go about saying "give me more" without sounding like a horrible person? :?

It's possible with a better offer from a peer school or a higher ranked school.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby franklyscarlet » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:21 pm

has anyone spend a decent enough time in last year's thread to know how long it usually was between groups of decisions?




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