William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Quan292 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:12 pm

Waitlisted today, 6th school this cycle.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby confusedlaw » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:22 pm

waitlist 167 3.7

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby noleknight16 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:31 pm

confusedlaw wrote:waitlist 167 3.7


say whattttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby apeopleshistory » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:33 pm

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby 2015JD » Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:45 pm

Wait listed
164 3.55 PR URM
Very disappointed to say the least.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby kokorozukai » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:03 pm

WL as well. Wasn't expecting to get in, but still disappointing =/

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby confusedlaw » Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:57 pm

i denied the waitlist fuck tthem my numbers are too high for a wl ill take my 25 k at fordham with no col
bye

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby EMAW12 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:17 pm

confusedlaw wrote:i denied the waitlist fuck tthem my numbers are too high for a wl ill take my 25 k at fordham with no col
bye

So, just for clarification, you're not going to W&M?

(wl'd today too [164, 3.7])

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ProsecutorVA » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:30 pm

Ive been keeping up with the thread here and I agree that the way that WM does it's admissions is bogus. The absurd motion of making people wait only to waitlist them is unprofessional. The fact that some if their deans of admissions are recent law school graduates who cannot seem to venture beyond the confounds of that school is also absurd. When I toured the school the guide that I had was some dude who was in his mid-20s who talked about how everyone hangs out in the breakroom playing foosball between classes. They had people running around acting like it was a Greek undergrad mixer rather than a law school. I gave up on that school some time ago and I have connections to it.

If an admissions dean at that college has less courtroom time than me and I'm not even a lawyer yet then I have reason to be suspect. Their lack of communication with applicants and their long waiting period for applicNts only to be waitlisted might be part of the reason why their rankings fell so far. These are just my observations an opinions.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby hichvichwoh » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:52 pm

ProsecutorVA wrote:Ive been keeping up with the thread here and I agree that the way that WM does it's admissions is bogus. The absurd motion of making people wait only to waitlist them is unprofessional. The fact that some if their deans of admissions are recent law school graduates who cannot seem to venture beyond the confounds of that school is also absurd. When I toured the school the guide that I had was some dude who was in his mid-20s who talked about how everyone hangs out in the breakroom playing foosball between classes. They had people running around acting like it was a Greek undergrad mixer rather than a law school. I gave up on that school some time ago and I have connections to it.

If an admissions dean at that college has less courtroom time than me and I'm not even a lawyer yet then I have reason to be suspect. Their lack of communication with applicants and their long waiting period for applicNts only to be waitlisted might be part of the reason why their rankings fell so far. These are just my observations an opinions.


Every single law school abuses the waitlist. It's a side effect of the ranking system.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby curiousnole » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:09 am

waitlisted as well. Perhaps our status checker changing so much really did mean something haha? Seems like a lot of us who had said that was occurring got responses (all waitlists).

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby curiousnole » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:12 am

wow! did you guys take a look at the W&M lsn today!? They must have waitlisted 100s today! It's like a graveyard.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby wvu » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:20 am

EMAW12 wrote:
confusedlaw wrote:i denied the waitlist fuck tthem my numbers are too high for a wl ill take my 25 k at fordham with no col
bye

So, just for clarification, you're not going to W&M?


:lol:

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby honeynutt » Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:22 am

ProsecutorVA wrote:Ive been keeping up with the thread here and I agree that the way that WM does it's admissions is bogus. The absurd motion of making people wait only to waitlist them is unprofessional. The fact that some if their deans of admissions are recent law school graduates who cannot seem to venture beyond the confounds of that school is also absurd. When I toured the school the guide that I had was some dude who was in his mid-20s who talked about how everyone hangs out in the breakroom playing foosball between classes. They had people running around acting like it was a Greek undergrad mixer rather than a law school. I gave up on that school some time ago and I have connections to it.

If an admissions dean at that college has less courtroom time than me and I'm not even a lawyer yet then I have reason to be suspect. Their lack of communication with applicants and their long waiting period for applicNts only to be waitlisted might be part of the reason why their rankings fell so far. These are just my observations an opinions.


Other schools do it too...Wash U had me waiting for months and just finally waitlisted me.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby RunninRoo » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:12 am

ProsecutorVA wrote:Ive been keeping up with the thread here and I agree that the way that WM does it's admissions is bogus. The absurd motion of making people wait only to waitlist them is unprofessional. The fact that some if their deans of admissions are recent law school graduates who cannot seem to venture beyond the confounds of that school is also absurd. When I toured the school the guide that I had was some dude who was in his mid-20s who talked about how everyone hangs out in the breakroom playing foosball between classes. They had people running around acting like it was a Greek undergrad mixer rather than a law school. I gave up on that school some time ago and I have connections to it.

If an admissions dean at that college has less courtroom time than me and I'm not even a lawyer yet then I have reason to be suspect. Their lack of communication with applicants and their long waiting period for applicNts only to be waitlisted might be part of the reason why their rankings fell so far. These are just my observations an opinions.


IDK I kind of agree with you. While other schools do it too their admissions office seemed like a joke to me. When I met with the dean a while back she started off by saying, "So you're interested in applying next year?" to which I replied "No, I applied back in January, and yours was the first school to which I applied...." Needless to say when a dean knows they are going to meet with you and hasn't looked at your file (or hasn't bothered looking @ your file perhaps- I told her via email I applied before our meeting). I was also REALLY surprised she only has her Ed.D, whereas I thought most admissions deans had law degrees (look @ the T14, like UVA). Seems to make sense that a lawyer would know what to look for, butttt maybe I am just fishing...

In either case on my tour I thought the place was beautiful; but in a class when the teacher asked "In 2006, President Bush was dealing with the aftermath of what?" and then gets silence, and then says "It was a natural disaster," and then a student replied that he was running for reelection against John Kerry; well it just kinda makes you wonder..

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby byronmullens » Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:00 pm

confusedlaw wrote:i denied the waitlist fuck tthem my numbers are too high for a wl ill take my 25 k at fordham with no col
bye
)[/quote]

On the Fordham thread:
confusedlaw wrote:I got 15 with 167 3.7



Hmmmmmm.....

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby HeadToWall » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:24 pm

RunninRoo wrote:
ProsecutorVA wrote:Ive been keeping up with the thread here and I agree that the way that WM does it's admissions is bogus. The absurd motion of making people wait only to waitlist them is unprofessional. The fact that some if their deans of admissions are recent law school graduates who cannot seem to venture beyond the confounds of that school is also absurd. When I toured the school the guide that I had was some dude who was in his mid-20s who talked about how everyone hangs out in the breakroom playing foosball between classes. They had people running around acting like it was a Greek undergrad mixer rather than a law school. I gave up on that school some time ago and I have connections to it.

If an admissions dean at that college has less courtroom time than me and I'm not even a lawyer yet then I have reason to be suspect. Their lack of communication with applicants and their long waiting period for applicNts only to be waitlisted might be part of the reason why their rankings fell so far. These are just my observations an opinions.


IDK I kind of agree with you. While other schools do it too their admissions office seemed like a joke to me. When I met with the dean a while back she started off by saying, "So you're interested in applying next year?" to which I replied "No, I applied back in January, and yours was the first school to which I applied...." Needless to say when a dean knows they are going to meet with you and hasn't looked at your file (or hasn't bothered looking @ your file perhaps- I told her via email I applied before our meeting). I was also REALLY surprised she only has her Ed.D, whereas I thought most admissions deans had law degrees (look @ the T14, like UVA). Seems to make sense that a lawyer would know what to look for, butttt maybe I am just fishing...

In either case on my tour I thought the place was beautiful; but in a class when the teacher asked "In 2006, President Bush was dealing with the aftermath of what?" and then gets silence, and then says "It was a natural disaster," and then a student replied that he was running for reelection against John Kerry; well it just kinda makes you wonder..


To be fair, John Kerry WAS a natural disaster.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby Nammertat » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:55 pm

I don't quite understand all of the waitlist whining that goes on... W&M has ALWAYS used their waitlist extensively. We all knew this when we applied... Just because you got accepted at a better school, or a peer with $$ does NOT mean that every other school looks for those same things, or even agrees! People need to cool it just a bit... it seriously isn't personal guys!

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby AndShe__Was » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:39 am

Nammertat wrote:I don't quite understand all of the waitlist whining that goes on... W&M has ALWAYS used their waitlist extensively. We all knew this when we applied... Just because you got accepted at a better school, or a peer with $$ does NOT mean that every other school looks for those same things, or even agrees! People need to cool it just a bit... it seriously isn't personal guys!


+1. :)

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby ganggreen » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:17 pm

To people who tried to negotiate with W&M: any luck? How long did they take to make a new offer?

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby mrslaw2014 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:18 pm

AndShe__Was wrote:
Nammertat wrote:I don't quite understand all of the waitlist whining that goes on... W&M has ALWAYS used their waitlist extensively. We all knew this when we applied... Just because you got accepted at a better school, or a peer with $$ does NOT mean that every other school looks for those same things, or even agrees! People need to cool it just a bit... it seriously isn't personal guys!


+1. :)


I'm a current student and I can assure you that W&M accepts of the waitlist and gives $$ off the waitlist. My classmates are proof. Send LOCI's and visit if you are truly interested.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby mrslaw2014 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:20 pm

ganggreen wrote:To people who tried to negotiate with W&M: any luck? How long did they take to make a new offer?


They will negotiate to an extent. Negotiate early and leverage your stats and other offers. It worked for me last year. I think the turn around time was about a week.

Also, make sure you apply for a Fellowship if you haven't already. They are BS jobs your first year and research positions later but you get paid and get in-state tuition which makes W&M very affordable.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby mrslaw2014 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:26 pm

LawStudent89 wrote:
splitsplat wrote:
LawStudent89 wrote:
sangr wrote:seems like im headed to WM. how many ppl actually goes here for free?


I believe its 40%.


Whaaaaaat? You think 40% of the students who matriculate are on full rides?


I'm just going by what I think I read somewhere.


No one. The school has a policy that everyone pays something. A lot of people don't pay much... but everyone pays something.

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby mrslaw2014 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:27 pm

If you guys have any questions about the school, feel free to post or PM me. I'll do my best to get you some answers and I look forward to see you all at admitted students weekend (totally worth going to, by the way).

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Re: William and Mary c/o 2015 (2011-2012 Cycle)

Postby arizonastategirl23 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:12 am

waitlisted via email :(

it's a sad, sad day.




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