LSATmakesMeNeurotic wrote:seancris wrote:
No luck whatsoever. Been trying since December with great offers from much higher ranked schools as leverage and numbers above both medians. Plus I've been following the UF admit thread for the past two years (lame, I know) and I haven't heard of them upping an offer.
Direct quote from you. That warranted correction, because while it is improbable, it is most certainly possible. Don't be one of the know-it-all 0L's that everyone hates.
Really? You're upset over an improbable/impossible distinction when I didn't even say that it was impossible? It's cool to point out that I had forgotten something from over a year ago (one or two negotiating offers up), but your reaction is pretty incongruent. And to date no one has reported successfully negotiating with UF during this cycle.
Next, I would expect a 162/3.8 to get a scholarship normally (because of the high GPA), but being a war refugee is certainly more of a significant soft than working in a law firm is. If you've taken a year off, they expect you to have been working, and it doesn't matter if it was a law firm or not. If you feel like expounding on the similarities between the two, then please do so, because one has significant softs, and the other does not. Granted, the self-identified minority could have been one that UF is particularly interested in having for diversity purposes, but there is (according to UF) no URM boost.
CSB. We agree that there are some soft factors (at the very least being non-URM minorities) that may have elicited the scholarships this year. And... wait... holy fuck! That's exactly what I was saying earlier that prompted you to douchefully confront me, insisting that "
the scholarships are given out without ANY rhyme or reason whatsoever."
Next, I would expect a 162/3.8 to get a scholarship normally (because of the high GPA), but being a war refugee is certainly more of a significant soft than working in a law firm is. If you've taken a year off, they expect you to have been working, and it doesn't matter if it was a law firm or not. If you feel like expounding on the similarities between the two, then please do so, because one has significant softs, and the other does not. Granted, the self-identified minority could have been one that UF is particularly interested in having for diversity purposes, but there is (according to UF) no URM boost.
Meh. It's not inconceivable that amparra looked like a more merit-worthy candidate than I did due to her work experience, despite me having higher stats. In fact, it's apparent from the results. This randomness standard that you have is just dumb for any year, but particularly for this year where the scholarships seem to have a consistent pattern.
When it comes to the middle/high end of the pack however (which is where you fall, and you are the one I have been addressing about this for the entire year), there does not seem to be any sort of pattern. Only half of the 164's on LSN have scholarship offers (and there are only 14).
Alright. Half of the 164s have offers... and practically all of that half of the 164s are at the top half of the GPA spectrum. And then go to the 163 column.
Only one has an offer (or had, last I checked). So that's what I'm trying to figure out. How to maximize your chances when you're an outlier.
And all I've been doing is inquiring into those outliers who got offers to maybe get some insight into the reasoning behind selecting the lone 163/158/162 etc.
Now direct your attention to last year's LSN grid. You will see that there is no pattern at all. None. someone with a 180/3.79 did not get a scholarship. Don't call something illogical if you haven't looked at all of the numbers from years past. Same is true for the 2009 application year. So while I owe you an apology because this year is looking like UF actually has their shit together for once, you need to realize that it is entirely possible that they threw the applications down a set of stairs and the ones that came out on top got scholarships.
I'll take your word for it. I remember that I saw a pattern last year in the thread, I remember talking with Barbie and others about my chances (which, must have been based on a pattern of some kind), and I remember going through LSN and chancing myself with my current LSAT score and deciding not to retake because I liked my chances.
But I didn't reject your randomness idea because of the data, I rejected it because it's not logical. Why would it be random? There is a committee, which meets and decides who gets money and who doesn't. This committee must have some basis for their decisions. And the committee is interested in attracting the best qualified candidates while spending the least amount of money to do it. And clearly there is a pattern for this cycle. Those are the reasons that I called it illogical/rejected it.
I'm just trying to figure out the merit-aid process. If you think it's random and I'm wasting my time, that's fine. But you don't need to condescend and act like you've schooled me on the process. I didn't ask you for any input. Provide your own point of view if you want to, but we don't need TLS drahms and interpersonal conflict ITT where people are just trying to learn about/discuss the process.
