nucky thompson wrote:Gail - to be fair, it seems you arrived at a conclusion (iu not maintaining medians) and then tried to explain why by making up numbers. Iu has given out fully schollys to people this cycle, but only to those above both medians (with high likelihood of matriculation, it seems -- where else would a 166, 3.8x go over a full ride?) - many other splitters, like the 3.1 167 Iowaalum user will probably be accepted and offered minimal scholly. Same goes for similarly numbered splitters --- where else would they go? Under 168 with a very mediocre gpa? Many of these applicants will likely matriculated.
So far, we have the deferred students form last year (assumed to be highly qualified # wise), we also have however many 3.8+ iu undergrads that have been admitted without lasts. Also, it is reasonable to assume the more selective full scholarships being given out likely will have a high yield.
Then on top of that, you add splitters like Iowa alum with low gpas that will likely have fairly high matriculation because, higher ranked schools can still fill classes with same or better LSAT without compromising gpa.
Basically, it seems you want to believe iu is fucking everything up because idk, you seem bitter. Maybe you're hopping they end up screwed so your 166 will look more attractive - but again, I trust admissions departments, especially the one at iu-b (clearly, they understand the us news game) have their own best interests in mind.
tl;dr: their medians will likely stay the same.
I'm only making up numbers in the sense of an estimate. I saw on the TLS article that the class size ranges in the 200's. I saw on LSN that the scholarship offers tended to be 165 and above so I guessed at 166 was the lowest defer. The number of defers is a complete guess. You're right about that.
On LSN, I only see two people given full rides, both of whom will not attend. One URM with an EA at Texas. One with a 169 with a better deal from UMN, a good scholarship from Texas, 45k from Michigan, and acceptances into the rest of the T14. Somehow I don't expect IUB is in the top 5 choices for that person. From what I can see, they're 0 for 2 on this years big scholarship. Yield of 0%
And a 166 3.8 has better options than IUB even at full ride. Michigan and Vanderbilt have both accepted 166/3.8s I would say both are a better option even at sticker. Splitters are getting 30k across the board. 177, 30k, auto-withdraw. Can you blame him? 174/3.5, 30k
As for the number of defers, how many do you have? If its like 100, that's great and no danger - assuming a class size of not much more than 200. If its more realistically like 20, then all I have to say is that I'd be worried if I were administrator.
And the 3.8s are all good. You might be right about that. How many could those be though? I don't think that tehy count for LSAT medians, but even so, it just seems like they're trying to do what Illinois tried last year. The thing is that Illinois is a better school though, it has better placement numbers and it can probably survive one year at a median of 163/3.71. Do you think that IUB will be able to solidify itself if that happens to them though? I think it places them in TT, just my opinion though.
And Tommy, my point was about NLJ250, I don't know anything more about employment than that because that is how law schools play this game. But isn't biglaw the only important thing? If you're taking on 120k, how else do you expect to pay that off?
On bitterness. I'm bitter by nature. I don't know why. Personality flaw. Didn't get any hugs as a kid or something. But I haven't been accepted or denied by IUB yet. I do identify with others who would have been given fully scholarships last year had they only been born on the arbitrary date of 1988 instead, however. That isn't bitterness so much as it is just so.. Typical.
In all, you're right. It is too early to tell what will happen. Maybe they're right and I'm wrong, maybe they're backing off of last year's strategy, maybe the typical Michigan admit will jump ship for the second best school in the smallest state west of the Appalachia. Who knows? The good thing is that we'll be able to come back to this and see the results.