Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Ti1Her0 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:20 pm

A little late to update but FWIW here's my contribution.
Submitted on 10/29. Complete dates 11/3 > 12/6 > 12/15 > 12/16. Deferred on 12/16. Stats: 170/3.3, average to decent softs.
I'm very disheartened by the deferral as Cornell was definitely one of my top choices but I knew with my GPA it was going to be a long shot. Anyway, good luck to everyone still waiting, I hope you all get some good news soon!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby anonymous12345 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:29 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
DonnaDraper wrote:
anonymous12345 wrote: from a pool that, once deferred, is perhaps more likely to accept.


Eeh I disagree. At least personally, had I been deferred, I think I would have been less likely to accept later on. Cornell was my second choice (tied with UVA and my #1/ED being Penn). If my ED had deferred/rejected me and Cornell accepted me, I probably would have decided then and there to go to Cornell and start apartment hunting with my sister, who already lives in Ithaca. If Cornell deferred me and then accepted me later, I would think twice about Cornell partly because it would be harder to find housing with my sis and also partly because the deferral would leave a bitter taste in my mouth, whereas the schools who outright accepted me would gain favor.


I totally agree with this. I love Cornell... But if I'm not their first choice it would make me feel like I'm sloppy seconds


I can agree with the feelings of "sloppy seconds", and any disappointment that carries. But remember, where you go to law school is perhaps the biggest decision of your future career in law. If Cornell is the best school that you get into, I think it would be a mistake to pass it over, bitter taste notwithstanding. Of course, there are other considerations at play, the caliber of other schools to which you've been accepted, money, etc., but on its face, I would be reluctant to let these kinds of bitter feelings get in the way of the decision. But again, I do agree (and to an extent will feel so myself, fully expecting to be deferred come Monday) with the disappointment. I guess what I am saying is don't let it influence your decision too much.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:43 pm

anonymous12345 wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:
DonnaDraper wrote:
anonymous12345 wrote: from a pool that, once deferred, is perhaps more likely to accept.


Eeh I disagree. At least personally, had I been deferred, I think I would have been less likely to accept later on. Cornell was my second choice (tied with UVA and my #1/ED being Penn). If my ED had deferred/rejected me and Cornell accepted me, I probably would have decided then and there to go to Cornell and start apartment hunting with my sister, who already lives in Ithaca. If Cornell deferred me and then accepted me later, I would think twice about Cornell partly because it would be harder to find housing with my sis and also partly because the deferral would leave a bitter taste in my mouth, whereas the schools who outright accepted me would gain favor.


I totally agree with this. I love Cornell... But if I'm not their first choice it would make me feel like I'm sloppy seconds


I can agree with the feelings of "sloppy seconds", and any disappointment that carries. But remember, where you go to law school is perhaps the biggest decision of your future career in law. If Cornell is the best school that you get into, I think it would be a mistake to pass it over, bitter taste notwithstanding. Of course, there are other considerations at play, the caliber of other schools to which you've been accepted, money, etc., but on its face, I would be reluctant to let these kinds of bitter feelings get in the way of the decision. But again, I do agree (and to an extent will feel so myself, fully expecting to be deferred come Monday) with the disappointment. I guess what I am saying is don't let it influence your decision too much.


Of course I would still go.. I would just be disheartened

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby addy11 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:59 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
Of course I would still go.. I would just be disheartened


For anyone going to any school at which they get waitlisted: just go, don't tell anyone, and you will quickly forget it. You will realize - just as will the people receiving full scholarships - that there are people far more intelligent and far less intelligent than you, far more dedicated and far less dedicated, and far more naturally suited to practice law and far less so.

In the end, you were deemed worthy of admission. That really is all that matters.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby anonymous12345 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:03 pm

msblaw89 wrote:Of course I would still go.. I would just be disheartened


That what I suspected. And that's my point. Those who ride out the deferral process create a pool of applicants who, for the most part, are more likely to accept, just in virtue of their willingness to see it through. People accepted elsewhere will withdraw, so too will people who are simply not committed enough to attending Cornell. Sure, it's not the case for every person who opts to be deferred, and sure, they might feel bitter about the process -- but I think for most of those applicants, they'll still accept an offer. At the end of the day, sloppy seconds notwithstanding, reason (I would hope) is paramount in the "where to" decision.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby horrorbusiness » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:04 pm

addy11 wrote:
For anyone going to any school at which they get waitlisted: just go, don't tell anyone, and you will quickly forget it. You will realize - just as will the people receiving full scholarships - that there are people far more intelligent and far less intelligent than you, far more dedicated and far less dedicated, and far more naturally suited to practice law and far less so.

In the end, you were deemed worthy of admission. That really is all that matters.


very well said

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby fips tedora » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:17 pm

Even though you're getting sloppy seconds...you're still getting it in ;)

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby DonnaDraper » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Obviously if Cornell is the best school someone gets into and money is not a factor, this person will go. However, a lot of the deferred applicants have good enough stats for options such as NU or GULC, another T14 willing to take them, or $$ somewhere else and Cornell could easily go from among top choices to Withdrawal because of deferral bitterness.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby anonymous12345 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:48 pm

DonnaDraper wrote:Obviously if Cornell is the best school someone gets into and money is not a factor, this person will go. However, a lot of the deferred applicants have good enough stats for options such as NU or GULC, another T14 willing to take them, or $$ somewhere else and Cornell could easily go from among top choices to Withdrawal because of deferral bitterness.


You bring up good points. But if Cornell doesn't start reconsidering applicants until after February 1st, chances are (unless they were similarly wait-listed), those applicant will have already heard back from NU or GULC and (hopefully) withdrawn -- which I think would further focus the remaining pool to those seriously considering Cornell. But this is just my .02, believe me, I am aware that I'm possibly way off. Just throwing it all out there. Believe me, I'll have plenty of time to analyze, as I fully expect to be deferred as well.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:54 pm

Well, I haven't been deffered yet, so I hope to avoid the problem altogether :D I suppose those of us still in the hunt will find out soon enough

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Take Two » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:56 pm

msblaw89 wrote:Well, I haven't been deffered yet, so I hope to avoid the problem altogether :D I suppose those of us still in the hunt will find out soon enough


+1!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby anonymous12345 » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:01 pm

msblaw89 wrote:Well, I haven't been deffered yet, so I hope to avoid the problem altogether :D I suppose those of us still in the hunt will find out soon enough


Same here :) I think we have the same dates (I forget the November dates, but went 12/13 to 12/16, no change in header). I gave up trying to read into the date thing, and now I'm just preparing myself for deferral. Anything more than that is a great surprise.

Best of luck to all of us still waiting to hear. And to those deferred, I'll join you soon, but hang in there! I've visited Cornell numerous times, and feel in love with the place. For me, at least, it's worth the wait.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby chucklesmcgee » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:42 pm

Ti1Her0 wrote:A little late to update but FWIW here's my contribution.
Submitted on 10/29. Complete dates 11/3 > 12/6 > 12/15 > 12/16. Deferred on 12/16. Stats: 170/3.3, average to decent softs.
I'm very disheartened by the deferral as Cornell was definitely one of my top choices but I knew with my GPA it was going to be a long shot. Anyway, good luck to everyone still waiting, I hope you all get some good news soon!


Yeah, keep your hopes up. I also applied with similar stats and got deferred yesterday. But just a few days prior UVA called and admitted me as a Dean's Scholar with $105k scholarship. So maybe Cornell's a little weird like that.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby oldad » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:11 pm

First legit snow fall in Ithaca today. This is a good omen in my mind lol. Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby tamarind49 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:43 am

So, I literally had nothing better to do than to stalk last year's Cornell applicants' thread, and I'm getting a bit too hopeful. After a wave of deferrals, on Monday the 20th of December last year, many MANY applicants received the Admit e-mail. Come to think of it, why would Cornell want to start off a week by sending out rejections? So maybe we (those that have not yet received any decision) can hope for good news on Monday? Yes, I'm being too optimistic, I know...
I'm concerned though about the no-rejections so far thing. Last year, some rejections went out earlier in the EA cycle, but none yet this year, right? Maybe Cornell decided to wait with rejections and only admit or defer EA applicants?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:06 am

tamarind49 wrote:So, I literally had nothing better to do than to stalk last year's Cornell applicants' thread, and I'm getting a bit too hopeful. After a wave of deferrals, on Monday the 20th of December last year, many MANY applicants received the Admit e-mail. Come to think of it, why would Cornell want to start off a week by sending out rejections? So maybe we (those that have not yet received any decision) can hope for good news on Monday? Yes, I'm being too optimistic, I know...
I'm concerned though about the no-rejections so far thing. Last year, some rejections went out earlier in the EA cycle, but none yet this year, right? Maybe Cornell decided to wait with rejections and only admit or defer EA applicants?

That's b/c all of this year's EA applicants are too good to reject :D

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby anonymous12345 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:34 pm

tamarind49 wrote:Maybe Cornell decided to wait with rejections and only admit or defer EA applicants?


That's what I was thinking. From their standpoint, what incentive do you have to reject anyone in the EA, especially when you theoretically have unlimited deferrals? If you reject someone now, you give up the right to accept them later on in the pool, if they come to discover that the pool is much weaker than anticipated. But perhaps this is just my way of trying to convince myself that a rejection e-mail won't be coming to me next week.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Take Two » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:39 pm

That makes total sense in my opinion!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby FidusAchates » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:23 pm

tamarind49 wrote:So, I literally had nothing better to do than to stalk last year's Cornell applicants' thread, and I'm getting a bit too hopeful. After a wave of deferrals, on Monday the 20th of December last year, many MANY applicants received the Admit e-mail. Come to think of it, why would Cornell want to start off a week by sending out rejections? So maybe we (those that have not yet received any decision) can hope for good news on Monday? Yes, I'm being too optimistic, I know...
I'm concerned though about the no-rejections so far thing. Last year, some rejections went out earlier in the EA cycle, but none yet this year, right? Maybe Cornell decided to wait with rejections and only admit or defer EA applicants?


This seems completely reasonable to me. There are just too many really good applicants who haven't heard back yet for Cornell to be done handing out acceptances. I don't know if that means there won't be any rejections, though given the unpredictability of this down cycle, it wouldn't really be too surprising if it did.

There is good news coming tomorrow! We can't give up hope :D

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:34 pm

I wish the best for all of us tomorrow

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Postby Take Two » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:14 pm

msblaw89 wrote:I wish the best for all of us tomorrow


+1!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby FratLaw » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:15 pm

Get comfortable. Cornell is slow as hell!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby franklyscarlet » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:24 pm

msblaw89 wrote:I wish the best for all of us tomorrow

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:43 pm

I hate the weekends.... I want some action

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby franklyscarlet » Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:47 pm

msblaw89 wrote:I hate the weekends.... I want some action


That's what she said.

Seriously though. Let's get some movement tomorrow! And by that I mean, acceptances for the 12/16 left behind!




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