Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby skers » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:42 pm

msblaw89 wrote:Cornell also places EXTREMELY well in big law... ever better than Harvard


Eh. This is kind of misleading as a bunch of Harvard kids are getting a3, doj, and other super preftigious positions.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby unitedfrutopia » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:43 pm

This partially due to Harvard's large class size, but mostly because Harvard grads have a much better shot at article III clerkships, academia, etc. Take these #s with a grain of salt. Cornell def. has great biglaw placement though.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby gaud » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:44 pm

^ yes

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Mizz » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:45 pm

unitedfrutopia wrote:This partially due to Harvard's large class size, but mostly because Harvard grads have a much better shot at article III clerkships, academia, etc. Take these #s with a grain of salt. Cornell def. has great biglaw placement though.


Agreed

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby shumon » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:45 pm

updates: 12/15
applied EA
anyone have the same update?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby skers » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:46 pm

unitedfrutopia wrote:This partially due to Harvard's large class size, but mostly because Harvard grads have a much better shot at article III clerkships, academia, etc. Take these #s with a grain of salt. Cornell def. has great biglaw placement though.


Yeah what everyone can definitely take away is the reason behind the TLS t13 boner.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Cornelius » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:46 pm

I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell. Haven't updated my LSN profile in a while.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:48 pm

shumon wrote:updates: 12/15
applied EA
anyone have the same update?

Hanging at 12/12

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby gaud » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:48 pm

Cornelius wrote:I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell.



I couldn't agree more. Do you guys (and girls) think that they are going to make us wait until the 20th.... it's starting to seem that way

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby top30man » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:49 pm

unitedfrutopia wrote:Cornell's placement is almost twice as strong as Fordham's. Cornell is TCR unless OP is getting $$ from Fordham or has personal connections that will lead to a job.

If you have the numbers for Cornell you have the numbers for between 45 and 90k from Fordham. If you have good reasons to stay I don't think it's a bad option.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby addy11 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:50 pm

gaud wrote:
Cornelius wrote:I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell.



I couldn't agree more. Do you guys (and girls) think that they are going to make us wait until the 20th.... it's starting to seem that way


Is the 20th the hard deadline?

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:53 pm

top30man wrote:
unitedfrutopia wrote:Cornell's placement is almost twice as strong as Fordham's. Cornell is TCR unless OP is getting $$ from Fordham or has personal connections that will lead to a job.

If you have the numbers for Cornell you have the numbers for between 45 and 90k from Fordham. If you have good reasons to stay I don't think it's a bad option.


I think you're being a little overly optimistic. I think I have a pretty good shot at Cornell but only got 10k/year at Fordham.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby gaud » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:53 pm

addy11 wrote:
gaud wrote:
Cornelius wrote:I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell.



I couldn't agree more. Do you guys (and girls) think that they are going to make us wait until the 20th.... it's starting to seem that way


Is the 20th the hard deadline?



Nah, lol. But someone mentioned that they spoke with admissions and that's what they said so I'm taking it and runnin

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:53 pm

addy11 wrote:
gaud wrote:
Cornelius wrote:I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell.



I couldn't agree more. Do you guys (and girls) think that they are going to make us wait until the 20th.... it's starting to seem that way


Is the 20th the hard deadline?

Zelda called admissions and apparently they told her they closed shop on that date so that EA had to come out before then

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:54 pm

Killingly wrote:
top30man wrote:
unitedfrutopia wrote:Cornell's placement is almost twice as strong as Fordham's. Cornell is TCR unless OP is getting $$ from Fordham or has personal connections that will lead to a job.

If you have the numbers for Cornell you have the numbers for between 45 and 90k from Fordham. If you have good reasons to stay I don't think it's a bad option.


I think you're being a little overly optimistic. I think I have a pretty good shot at Cornell but only got 10k/year at Fordham.

Fight them on that! I got 30k a year from Fordham

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby tamarind49 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:55 pm

Stuck on 12/1 :(

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:56 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
top30man wrote:
unitedfrutopia wrote:Cornell's placement is almost twice as strong as Fordham's. Cornell is TCR unless OP is getting $$ from Fordham or has personal connections that will lead to a job.

If you have the numbers for Cornell you have the numbers for between 45 and 90k from Fordham. If you have good reasons to stay I don't think it's a bad option.


I think you're being a little overly optimistic. I think I have a pretty good shot at Cornell but only got 10k/year at Fordham.

Fight them on that! I got 30k a year from Fordham


I can't fight them until I get some other scholly offers. Fordham as been the only one to throw me a bone so far (even if it was a tiny bone). TBH, I did kinda expect at least 20k. Guy with my SAME numbers got that much.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby addy11 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:57 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
addy11 wrote:
gaud wrote:
Cornelius wrote:I desire movement from a school today, preferably Cornell.



I couldn't agree more. Do you guys (and girls) think that they are going to make us wait until the 20th.... it's starting to seem that way


Is the 20th the hard deadline?

Zelda called admissions and apparently they told her they closed shop on that date so that EA had to come out before then


Ah, ok. Thanks, guys.

This whole EA thing is sort of pointless IMO. There are several t14 schools that have already let in scads of RD people, even early November/late October submits. Cornell will be doing the same thing (admitting several, deferring or rejecting several more), only later than many of these schools (and not much earlier, in all likelihood, than most others). :roll:

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby top30man » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:05 pm

Killingly wrote:
msblaw89 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
top30man wrote:If you have the numbers for Cornell you have the numbers for between 45 and 90k from Fordham. If you have good reasons to stay I don't think it's a bad option.


I think you're being a little overly optimistic. I think I have a pretty good shot at Cornell but only got 10k/year at Fordham.

Fight them on that! I got 30k a year from Fordham


I can't fight them until I get some other scholly offers. Fordham as been the only one to throw me a bone so far (even if it was a tiny bone). TBH, I did kinda expect at least 20k. Guy with my SAME numbers got that much.

Yeah, Fordham does seem odd with money. People with my numbers get four different amounts that vary wildly. I don't understand how they make these decisions. However, I'm sure you'll have much better options than Fordham with your numbers!

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:07 pm

top30man wrote:Yeah, Fordham does seem odd with money. People with my numbers get four different amounts that vary wildly. I don't understand how they make these decisions. However, I'm sure you'll have much better options than Fordham with your numbers!


Thanks! I love NY schools, so Fordham definitely remains on the table for now. But I'd love me some Cornell action.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:08 pm

Killingly wrote:
top30man wrote:Yeah, Fordham does seem odd with money. People with my numbers get four different amounts that vary wildly. I don't understand how they make these decisions. However, I'm sure you'll have much better options than Fordham with your numbers!


Thanks! I love NY schools, so Fordham definitely remains on the table for now. But I'd love me some Cornell action.

You'll get it ;-)

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:12 pm

msblaw89 wrote:
Killingly wrote:
top30man wrote:Yeah, Fordham does seem odd with money. People with my numbers get four different amounts that vary wildly. I don't understand how they make these decisions. However, I'm sure you'll have much better options than Fordham with your numbers!


Thanks! I love NY schools, so Fordham definitely remains on the table for now. But I'd love me some Cornell action.

You'll get it ;-)


You = best.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby addy11 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:14 pm

I think Fordham trades on its unique position very well.

It's in NYC and it's the next best thing after NYU and Columbia, but there is such a quality gap between the former two and Fordham (as well as between Fordham and the next NYC school, Yeshiva/Cardozo) that they can pick up a ton of above average people just because they want to be in NYC but maybe can't manage to get into NYU or Columbia, and won't "deign" to go to Cardozo, CUNY or Brooklyn.

I know several people above both 75ths at Fordham who got nothing in terms of merit money. I was significantly above both 75ths and they refused me a fee waiver (elected not to apply).

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Killingly » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:15 pm

addy11 wrote:I think Fordham trades on its unique position very well.

It's in NYC and it's the next best thing after NYU and Columbia, but there is such a quality gap between the former two and Fordham (as well as between Fordham and the next NYC school, Yeshiva/Cardozo) that they can pick up a ton of above average people just because they want to be in NYC but maybe can't manage to get into NYU or Columbia, and won't "deign" to go to Cardozo, CUNY or Brooklyn.

I know several people above both 75ths at Fordham who got nothing in terms of merit money. I was significantly above both 75ths and they refused me a fee waiver (elected not to apply).


Fairly certain they don't give fee waivers unless they're need-based. That's how I got one. Also, I agree with your post.

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Re: Cornell c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby horrorbusiness » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:17 pm

i think almost all of you have better numbers than i do and i got in. i am mexican though. but i cant imagine them saying no to your guys' numbers. good luck everyone.




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