Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Mal Reynolds
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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:45 am

jeninamillion wrote:
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smokeylarue wrote:Holy shit is this a misprint? I just received the admissions packet, in the booklet it has data for this year's entering class profile. It says the class is 38% men, 62% women. Not that I'm complaining or anything as a man, but is this true? I thought pretty much all the law schools were majority male.


That is a crazy statistic.... Really crazy


Eh. Berkeley undergrad is like 45% Asian (and more like 80% in the engineering majors). It likes to be weird/special.


This is so blatantly racist I hope it's sarcastic.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jeninamillion » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:58 am

Mal Reynolds wrote:
jeninamillion wrote:
jpal13 wrote:
smokeylarue wrote:Holy shit is this a misprint? I just received the admissions packet, in the booklet it has data for this year's entering class profile. It says the class is 38% men, 62% women. Not that I'm complaining or anything as a man, but is this true? I thought pretty much all the law schools were majority male.


That is a crazy statistic.... Really crazy


Eh. Berkeley undergrad is like 45% Asian (and more like 80% in the engineering majors). It likes to be weird/special.


This is so blatantly racist I hope it's sarcastic.


Yeah, but it's some what true. I think the first stat is substantiated by their official materials, and the second is from personal experience from taking classes that were also reqs for engineering students.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Mal Reynolds » Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:07 am

Lol. I'm not arguing about the demographics of Berkeley. I'm sure you're not lying, nor is that racist. What's racist is the general disappointment and implication that Berkeley is weird because of its ethnic makeup. So again, Lolz.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby smokeylarue » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:21 am

LOL yeah all the UC schools have a similar percentages of Asians because they can't do affirmative action and since Asians have the best grades and test scores, thats your result. Its not strange at all for Berkeley or California, its common.

Edit: this is only in regards to their undergraduate admissions, pretty sure the grad schools are not like this
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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby rachelwang712 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:29 am

FYI, I am a Chinese applicant. (I did my undergrad in a Chinese univ.) UC schools are famous for being friendly with Chinese students no matter which major they are studying. They typically admit a large number of applicants with a Chinese undergrad degree each year.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jpal13 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:51 am

rachelwang712 wrote:FYI, I am a Chinese applicant. (I did my undergrad in a Chinese univ.) UC schools are famous for being friendly with Chinese students no matter which major they are studying. They typically admit a large number of applicants with a Chinese undergrad degree each year.



Still none of this explains Why they favor women so much. That's a big disparity between men and women. While I like the ratio, I am worried I will be discriminated against as a man. I mean 60/40! Are they trying to be Jurassic Park?

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thecactus » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:22 am

jpal13 wrote:Still none of this explains Why they favor women so much. That's a big disparity between men and women. While I like the ratio, I am worried I will be discriminated against as a man. I mean 60/40! Are they trying to be Jurassic Park?


Lol, you won't be discriminated as a man. Women tend to get better grades as undergrads, and plenty of grad departments are skewed towards women. Berkeley's demographics -- although extreme -- are not that surprising.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Boston_NYG2245 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:55 am

thecactus wrote:
jpal13 wrote:Still none of this explains Why they favor women so much. That's a big disparity between men and women. While I like the ratio, I am worried I will be discriminated against as a man. I mean 60/40! Are they trying to be Jurassic Park?


Lol, you won't be discriminated as a man. Women tend to get better grades as undergrads, and plenty of grad departments are skewed towards women. Berkeley's demographics -- although extreme -- are not that surprising.


I don't think schools really take gender into account when they make admissions decisions. Women do tend to have higher grades and Berkeley tends to weight GPA more than other schools, so really not that surprising. Additionally, it could be that they admitted equal amounts of men and women and by some coincidence larger proportion of women than men decided to attend.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby PigBodine » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:39 am

Boston_NYG2245 wrote:
thecactus wrote:
jpal13 wrote:Still none of this explains Why they favor women so much. That's a big disparity between men and women. While I like the ratio, I am worried I will be discriminated against as a man. I mean 60/40! Are they trying to be Jurassic Park?


Lol, you won't be discriminated as a man. Women tend to get better grades as undergrads, and plenty of grad departments are skewed towards women. Berkeley's demographics -- although extreme -- are not that surprising.


I don't think schools really take gender into account when they make admissions decisions. Women do tend to have higher grades and Berkeley tends to weight GPA more than other schools, so really not that surprising.


Yeah. When you're tilting things in favor of one metric (either gpa or LSAT) more than other schools, it stands to reason that there's a lot of virgin territory at the business end of that, so to speak.

In other words, someone with a 4.33/164 isn't likely to get in anywhere better than Berkeley, and they'll usually get a very high yield from those kind of candidates. Similarly, NYU, who try really aggressively to maintain their 172 median, give a lot of offers to kids with 172/3.4+s. Someone with a 3.6 and a 172 isn't likely to get an offer from a higher ranked school than NYU. It's just the case that the first type of student is disproportionately female, and the latter type is disproportionately male. Females have higher gpas on averages, and are slightly less likely to score above 170 on the LSAT. NYU's having this same problem right now in reverse. The last class was something like 60/40 male, and apparently they're less than happy about that.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby boalthopeful » Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:25 pm

to follow up on a previous post....can someone talk about committee review in more depth?

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MrShneebly » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:06 pm

boalthopeful wrote:to follow up on a previous post....can someone talk about committee review in more depth?

I saw Dead Tom talk about it in this interview, but it's still pretty vague. If anyone can expand on this, that'd be awesome

http://www.top-law-schools.com/tom-interview.html

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MrShneebly » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:07 pm

* dean, that is

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ricsllscir » Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:12 pm

MrShneebly wrote:* dean, that is


hahaha, priceless typo

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MrShneebly » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:23 pm

Are there any current Berkeley students on this forum that were out of state applicants? I'd like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind (especially if you didn't have shoo-in numbers).

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:36 pm

Anyone know if Berkeley releases things on Thursday or Friday? Or are they more of a Monday release school?

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jeninamillion » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:48 pm

MrShneebly wrote:
boalthopeful wrote:to follow up on a previous post....can someone talk about committee review in more depth?

I saw Dead Tom talk about it in this interview, but it's still pretty vague. If anyone can expand on this, that'd be awesome

http://www.top-law-schools.com/tom-interview.html


If I wasn't a victim in the 1/09 massacre of people who went UR on 11/22, is it safe to say that I'm now in committee review or waitlisted? Or is there still a huge chance of rejection. I'm a splitter so my chances at Berkeley aren't that great, numbers-wise, but it is my undergrad and I got a LOR from a Berkeley Law professor who taught undergrad.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby msblaw89 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:19 pm

I want some Berkeley love!

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Zelda » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:39 pm

msblaw89 wrote:I want some Berkeley love!


+1.

I feel abandoned by California.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cactuarX3 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:46 pm

MrShneebly wrote:
boalthopeful wrote:to follow up on a previous post....can someone talk about committee review in more depth?

I saw Dead Tom talk about it in this interview, but it's still pretty vague. If anyone can expand on this, that'd be awesome

http://www.top-law-schools.com/tom-interview.html


Subconscious Muppet reference?

http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Tom

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby cactuarX3 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:46 pm

damn the double posts

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MrShneebly » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:15 pm

Oh my god...that would be awesome. If that muppet was in charge of decisions. Somehow.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby norcal_youngin » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:33 am

11/22er getting more impatient as the silence continues

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby djkrish » Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:44 am

norcal_youngin wrote:11/22er getting more impatient as the silence continues

im 12/12 and I'm growing impatient as well. i feel like california just doesn't like me.

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby boalthopeful » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:46 pm

norcal_youngin wrote:11/22er getting more impatient as the silence continues


+1

[at least we haven't been rejected yo]

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Re: Berkeley c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Mal Reynolds » Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:09 pm

I am really hoping there will be a ton of news next week. It would be worth it if lots of 11/22'ers and 12/12'ers heard back next week. Hopefully they are doing a Chicago-sized batch for next week.




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