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benburns214 wrote:

mooseman2216 wrote:Out via email. 166 3.6.

Wow really?? That suprises me... Your above the median with both scores.

Median is 167 3.8. It's been 167 for three years and above 3.6 for over a decade.

waitlisted today. Will prob withdraw since I now have no interest in moving to Minnesota.

Rejected yesterday with a 166/3.74

Seems like they're pumping the LSAT this year.

in via phone call with 160/3.9

omninode wrote:Seems like they're pumping the LSAT this year.

Nope. UMN is a splitter friendly school. But as with any school, if both numbers are below the medians ( 167/3.8 ), chances are slim.

Case in point:

zoejordan wrote:in via phone call with 160/3.9

I understand why / all schools are like that. Still seems crazy that I was offered a nice scholly, but if answered 1 question differently on the LSAT (in which I had a couple pure guesses) I'd probably be a rejection. Obviously not complaining at all, just seems weird lol

Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

Randomnumbers wrote:Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

dinged. expected. 163/3.44

MidwestJosh wrote:

omninode wrote:Seems like they're pumping the LSAT this year.

Nope. UMN is a splitter friendly school. But as with any school, if both numbers are below the medians ( 167/3.8 ), chances are slim.

Case in point:

zoejordan wrote:in via phone call with 160/3.9

To be fair, I would assume this person is a URM.

And while I'm ok with my waitlist, UMN has had by far the strangest cycle I've seen this year. I don't think you can really deny the LSAT preference here. Numerous people with 167 and sub-3.4's have gotten in, while most everyone with a 166 or below has been WL/denied regardless of GPA (myself included with what is now a 166 3.84). It appears they are pretty strict with the 166 LSAT median while being much more leniant towards the 3.8 GPA median.

Again, I'm not criticizing the school and am not upset with it. Just pointing out how suprisingly rigid their admissions criteria has been this year.

Doesn't really seem like LSAT preference as it does median preference

there seems to be a wall of 167 accepts on LSN graphs that goes all the way down to 3.09... but if you have a 166 it looks like you need a 3.8 to get (which obviously makes sense since its their median GPA).

The same can be said for GPA's.. If you have a 3.8 GPA a 160 LSAT is enough (If close to a 4.0 156/157 are getting you in).

I understand how unfair that is to those with something like a 3.7 / 166 getting rejected while a 167 / 3.1 is getting in. Just the way it is with medians though

ThreeRiver's response is correct. Shrederrr... UMN has been that way since Nick Wallace took over as Director (two full admission cycles and 1/2 of the Class of 2012 cycle.) Each school has a different admission strategy. UMN's is particularly splitter aggressive.

It's about a school's needs. There is a constant calculation of the rolling admitted/committed LSAT/GPA medians. If the school has a particular need for one or the other, you'll see a splitter with that direction being admitted - either directly or off the WL.

Higher LSAT scores are harder to come by than higher GPAs. With that said, you'll generally see a batch of admitted high GPA's later in the cycle - post deposit deadline.

Best of luck.

I was accepted as well yesterday.
Anyone hear any scholy info?

shredderrrrrr wrote:

MidwestJosh wrote:

omninode wrote:Seems like they're pumping the LSAT this year.

Nope. UMN is a splitter friendly school. But as with any school, if both numbers are below the medians ( 167/3.8 ), chances are slim.

Case in point:

zoejordan wrote:in via phone call with 160/3.9

To be fair, I would assume this person is a URM.

And while I'm ok with my waitlist, UMN has had by far the strangest cycle I've seen this year. I don't think you can really deny the LSAT preference here. Numerous people with 167 and sub-3.4's have gotten in, while most everyone with a 166 or below has been WL/denied regardless of GPA (myself included with what is now a 166 3.84). It appears they are pretty strict with the 166 LSAT median while being much more leniant towards the 3.8 GPA median.

Again, I'm not criticizing the school and am not upset with it. Just pointing out how suprisingly rigid their admissions criteria has been this year.

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/chrisrj1971/jd This here is a caucasion male with a 154 lsat and a 3.45 gpa, accepted at UM. Perhaps Minnesota is looking at the applications as a whole now more than they have in the past. Which is a GOOD thing... in my opinion anyway.

benburns214 wrote: http://lawschoolnumbers.com/chrisrj1971/jd This here is a caucasion male with a 154 lsat and a 3.45 gpa, accepted at UM. Perhaps Minnesota is looking at the applications as a whole now more than they have in the past. Which is a GOOD thing... in my opinion anyway.

He was early decision though. Still, makes me want to fight this kid.

ThreeRivers wrote:Doesn't really seem like LSAT preference as it does median preference

there seems to be a wall of 167 accepts on LSN graphs that goes all the way down to 3.09... but if you have a 166 it looks like you need a 3.8 to get (which obviously makes sense since its their median GPA).

The same can be said for GPA's.. If you have a 3.8 GPA a 160 LSAT is enough (If close to a 4.0 156/157 are getting you in).

I understand how unfair that is to those with something like a 3.7 / 166 getting rejected while a 167 / 3.1 is getting in. Just the way it is with medians though

My 166 wasn't enough to get to get my 3.84 in. Oh well. I suppose I could ride out the WL, but I think I'll just withdraw.

Good luck to everyone else!

ricsllscir wrote:

Randomnumbers wrote:Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

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tom2189 wrote:

ricsllscir wrote:

Randomnumbers wrote:Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

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fuckin eh. I just have letter of admission and financial aid information.
I guess I have to negotiate for a scholy.

Those that are getting in/hearing decisions - when did you apply and go complete?

Congratulations!

I applied on 11/26, under review on 12/29, and accepted via email and status checker on 1/27. I haven't received any of the mailings yet, though.

tom2189 wrote:

ricsllscir wrote:

Randomnumbers wrote:Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

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Okay well I actually just received my acceptance package from Minnesota in the mail. Full resident tuition scholarship for all three years, so about $112k. So grateful and excited. However, I am curious about the other scholarship letter, dated 2/1, that is listed on my status checker.

fltanglab wrote:

tom2189 wrote:

ricsllscir wrote:

Randomnumbers wrote:Admitted friday by phone. Letter of Admission and Scholarship letter showed up on the status checker as 1/30 mailings. Now it shows a second Scholarship Letter dated 2/01. Anyone else have a second letter show up in their mailings?

I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

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I just got my mailings today with scholly offer. It was dated 1/31 on my status checker so you guys should be getting it soon!

buckythebadger wrote:

fltanglab wrote:

tom2189 wrote:

ricsllscir wrote:
I'm also showing the same two scholarship mailing dates...haven't gotten anything in the mail yet though

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I just got my mailings today with scholly offer. It was dated 1/31 on my status checker so you guys should be getting it soon!

w00t w00t...will now race home to check the mail to see...whyyyyy can't snail mail just die