Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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admisionquestion
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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby admisionquestion » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:06 am

Got bored did some LSN mining

Up until this point in 2010/2011 the data is as follow (not including those that stayed pending through the entire 2010 cycle)

Total Complete Apps 2010:40
Total Complete Apps 2011: 31

Median Applicant GPA at this point 2010: 3.87
Median Applicant GPA at this point 2011: 3.9 (Data only in tenths this round)

Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2010: 172
Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2011: 171

Accepted of those applied before today last year: 7 of 40


Thought people might be interested. Based on this tiny amount of data it looks like apps are down and among those apps numbers are down a bit too.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:14 am

admisionquestion wrote:Got bored did some LSN mining

Up until this point in 2010/2011 the data is as follow (not including those that stayed pending through the entire 2010 cycle)

Total Complete Apps 2010:40
Total Complete Apps 2011: 31

Median Applicant GPA at this point 2010: 3.87
Median Applicant GPA at this point 2011: 3.9 (Data only in tenths this round)

Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2010: 172
Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2011: 171

Accepted of those applied before today last year: 7 of 40


Thought people might be interested. Based on this tiny amount of data it looks like apps are down and among those apps numbers are down a bit too.


This is great...if the same pattern held to Harvard, Columbia, and Chicago, we might assume that numbers were at least slightly down. It doesn't seem likely that internet usage would be explanation for a drop that significant (though its possible). Can we determine whether LSN has grown in activity progressively every year, even last year when we know for certain that apps dropped? If participation grew last year despite the drop in apps, then we could def be reasonably assured these numbers reflect something....

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby freestallion » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:35 am

Nice work! How did you search LSN based on date for last year? I can't find a way to filter out only those who applied by this date last year..

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby iamrobk » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:39 am

admisionquestion wrote:Got bored did some LSN mining

Up until this point in 2010/2011 the data is as follow (not including those that stayed pending through the entire 2010 cycle)

Total Complete Apps 2010:40
Total Complete Apps 2011: 31

Median Applicant GPA at this point 2010: 3.87
Median Applicant GPA at this point 2011: 3.9 (Data only in tenths this round)

Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2010: 172
Median Applicant LSAT at this point 2011: 171

Accepted of those applied before today last year: 7 of 40


Thought people might be interested. Based on this tiny amount of data it looks like apps are down and among those apps numbers are down a bit too.

Great work. I'm not even applying to Stanford, but I'm glad I popped in here. Hopefully this trend holds for other T14 schools as well...

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby freestallion » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:42 am

Wow. I think I figured out how to do this for Harvard and it seems: this year, 41 completed apps so far. Last year at this time: 57. Definitely looks like a drop in apps.
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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Curious1 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:43 am

freestallion wrote:Wow. I think I figured out how to do this for Harvard and it seems: this year, 41 completed apps so far. Last year at this time: 60. Definitely looks like a drop in apps.


Might be that some people only put it up after they get their JR1's. Don't think this is quite as telling as it seems on its face. If I didn't know about LSN beforehand, the JR1 email would've certainly gotten me pretty giddy and show-off-y.

Also, fine, if everyone else has, I'll change me avatar too...

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:48 am

True, it could be that alot of people hide their profiles until after the cycle is over.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Curious1 » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:51 am

MumofCad wrote:True, it could be that alot of people hide their profiles until after the cycle is over.


But the Stanford numbers are somewhat telling, even though it's a very small sample. Don't give up hope!

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:51 am

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:03 pm

Well it could be worse anyhow. Imagine if you get rejected from everywhere in a lower app year. That would be discouraging.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:28 pm

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:35 pm

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:38 pm

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:43 pm

Like I said in my PM, I do know people who've gotten in off their softs. I would be the last one to discourage anyone from giving it a go.
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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Hawkeye Pierce » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:05 pm

Interesting statistics. I'm not sure how much we can read into those numbers, but it is, at the very least, slightly encouraging.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby mickeyD » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:35 pm

tagged. good luck everyone!

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:43 pm

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Justdoingmybest » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:41 pm

They received and went under review yesterday.
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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:46 pm

New blog post if anyone wants to check it out - Dean talks about being savvy regarding the pressure on scholarships and other things from law schools. Advising to download the code of conduct for law school adcoms - interesting she mentions the date by which a school can not ask you to accept/reject an offer. I feel like it was before the offer I already got is supposed to be accepted or lost. I'll need to check into that...

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:46 pm

I just want to say that their freaking fee waiver application is bogus.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:50 pm

thelawschoolproject wrote:I just want to say that their freaking fee waiver application is bogus.


What does it entail? Or what is bogus about it? Curious...

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Schola » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:55 pm

MumofCad wrote:New blog post if anyone wants to check it out - Dean talks about being savvy regarding the pressure on scholarships and other things from law schools. Advising to download the code of conduct for law school adcoms - interesting she mentions the date by which a school can not ask you to accept/reject an offer. I feel like it was before the offer I already got is supposed to be accepted or lost. I'll need to check into that...


offer from where?

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:59 pm

MumofCad wrote:
thelawschoolproject wrote:I just want to say that their freaking fee waiver application is bogus.


What does it entail? Or what is bogus about it? Curious...


The need for parental information (even if you're old, and pay your own bills, etc.) I called today and asked if I really needed my parents' information (as I have one parent who I no longer speak to) and she said yes, or else it would be thrown out. So, I have no idea what to do, unless I lie. Which, would be bad.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MumofCad » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:05 pm

@Schola - not Stanford, don't worry lol ;)

@lawschoolproject - Unfortunately for us non-trads, I've heard that is the way all fin aid for law school's work. If you're going to need it most likely, you might as well get it now. I'm not up-to-date on these things, but I think my Harvard friend said it works on some sort of sliding scale based on your age and it isn't a non-factor until like 30+ :( Not sure if that is accurate, but before you give up, you might want to find out if you are going to need the info anyhow later on KWIM? I thought she said at 28, they took into account 20% of her parent's income and it was a real pain because they were small business owners who aren't great about that sort of thing and it was just plain awkward.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thelawschoolproject » Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:14 pm

Yeah, it's just really inconvenient and not a proper way to assess my ability to pay at all if my parents' information is considered. But, that's a good point about financial aid. I'm hoping that since I've had some other factors in my life that most schools will consider me independent, though.




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