Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby admisionquestion » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:09 pm

I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:

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22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby txl » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:04 pm

admisionquestion wrote:I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:

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22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.


Willing to extract this data on the non-urm sample? This thread would love you...

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby EvelynS » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:27 pm

txl wrote:
admisionquestion wrote:I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:

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22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.


Willing to extract this data on the non-urm sample? This thread would love you...


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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Genki » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:47 pm

Well, I think I logged into my status checker about 25 times today and my admission to Stanford Law is still Complete.
Looks like I survived another day.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby hypothalamus » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:11 pm

Genki wrote:Well, I think I logged into my status checker about 25 times today and my admission to Stanford Law is still Complete.
Looks like I survived another day.


I think they should change the little line from "Your application has been submitted for review" to "You have not been rejected yet."
They mean the same thing anyway... :D

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby backwards54 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:34 pm

LaCumparsita wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
LaCumparsita wrote:So if I went UR late September and am still UR, what does this mean? Am I essentially being held?



You are an URM right? You may get your decision when Stanford releases its urm batch. But don't worry I think you will be fine. It's Stanford we can't question the almighty Stanford.



That's the thing, I'm Hispanic, but I'm not a URM... maybe Stanford considers me one anyway? lol


I am Canadian and my first language is not English (french canadian). Do you think they'll consider me a URM ?

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby soj » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:35 pm

backwards54 wrote:
LaCumparsita wrote:
sharktankdean wrote:
LaCumparsita wrote:So if I went UR late September and am still UR, what does this mean? Am I essentially being held?


You are an URM right? You may get your decision when Stanford releases its urm batch. But don't worry I think you will be fine. It's Stanford we can't question the almighty Stanford.



That's the thing, I'm Hispanic, but I'm not a URM... maybe Stanford considers me one anyway? lol


I am Canadian and my first language is not English (french canadian). Do you think they'll consider me a URM ?

Only AA/black, NA/aboriginal, MA/Mexican, or Puerto Rican applicants are URMs.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby FryBreadPower » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:22 am

admisionquestion wrote:I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:

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22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.


I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby amc987 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:45 am

FryBreadPower wrote:I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.


I feel like that data set just shows that Stanford makes equally kooky (or holistic depending on who you talk to) decisions on URM applications as it does on non-URM applications. Just in this small LSN sample, Stanford took kdubb (3.67, 161) and EveNo (3.6, 164), rejected OldLaw (3.78, 173), OperationAwesome (3.92, 168) and LaMar (3.6, 171), and WL'd giantswin (3.3, 167) and jasmoon (3.8, 169).

I guess there has to be some deviation in that Stanford is notoriously big on candidates with strong soft factors. We also don't know what URM types of all of these were; it could be that one was non-URM Hispanic and one was an AA male, so their respective decisions could partly reflect the different boosts they got. However, even accounting for all those unknowns there's really no way to know based on numbers who would've received which decision and when they'd have received it.

Maybe in my next life I'll be a fly on the wall in an admissions office or something. It'd sure be interesting to know exactly what gets said behind closed doors and how those decisions are actually made.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby FryBreadPower » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:35 am

amc987 wrote:
FryBreadPower wrote:I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.


I feel like that data set just shows that Stanford makes equally kooky (or holistic depending on who you talk to) decisions on URM applications as it does on non-URM applications. Just in this small LSN sample, Stanford took kdubb (3.67, 161) and EveNo (3.6, 164), rejected OldLaw (3.78, 173), OperationAwesome (3.92, 168) and LaMar (3.6, 171), and WL'd giantswin (3.3, 167) and jasmoon (3.8, 169).

I guess there has to be some deviation in that Stanford is notoriously big on candidates with strong soft factors. We also don't know what URM types of all of these were; it could be that one was non-URM Hispanic and one was an AA male, so their respective decisions could partly reflect the different boosts they got. However, even accounting for all those unknowns there's really no way to know based on numbers who would've received which decision and when they'd have received it.

Maybe in my next life I'll be a fly on the wall in an admissions office or something. It'd sure be interesting to know exactly what gets said behind closed doors and how those decisions are actually made.


I guess it wouldn't take much effort/know-how to look up each candidate and pull their URM status. Maybe I will do that when I'm bored at work :)

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby jim-green » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:22 pm

I remember a Dean Deal blog post in which she says it is OK to send in a LOCI if one hasn't heard from SLS in a while. Anyone have the link to that? Also, does SLS prefer LOCIs by e-mail or US mail? Schools are different in this regard: Penn prefers e-mail, but Harvard prefers US mail.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby ladeornmc » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:32 pm

FryBreadPower wrote:
admisionquestion wrote:I got sick of relying on this thread so heavily for my nerves... So I decided to do a bit of LSN data mining. As always this data is biased in the normal LSN ways. Here goes the results:

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22 accepted out of 62 URM's who had not recieved a decision by todays date in any of the past 4 cycles.

Of those who did not have decision by this date in the past 4 cycles the mean LSAT was 166 and the mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted the LSAT was 168 and GPA was 3.7

In total there were 180 URM's from the past 4 cycles. 42 of them were accepted. And 2/3 of the applicants got their decision by this date. Their mean LSAT was 166 and their mean GPA was 3.5. Of those who were accepted, their mean LSAT was was 168.8 and their mean GPA was 3.6.


I'm actually surprised the numbers aren't higher than that to tell you the truth.


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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby seanPtheB » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:33 pm

jim-green wrote:I remember a Dean Deal blog post in which she says it is OK to send in a LOCI if one hasn't heard from SLS in a while. Anyone have the link to that? Also, does SLS prefer LOCIs by e-mail or US mail? Schools are different in this regard: Penn prefers e-mail, but Harvard prefers US mail.


I called the other day and was told that email is the best way.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby admisionquestion » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:54 pm

http://blogs.law.stanford.edu/admission ... ello-2011/

I believe either mail or email is fine.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby lefty20 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:11 pm

On LSN, it looks like two people were accepted today. That's some good news for the first time in a while. Maybe this afternoon will be rewarding.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby kindaklueless » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:15 pm

Long-time lurker here (in at Michigan/NYU/Columbia, waitlisted at Chicago, dream school is Stanford). I submitted in late Nov and went UR on 12/7. About the right time to send a LOCI (I know Stanford doesn't necessarily make decisions by submit date so I didn't want to look too desperate)?

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Green Glass Windows » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:22 am

DLS. No surprises there.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Elendil » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:42 am

Green Glass Windows wrote:DLS. No surprises there.


Sorry to hear that, mind sharing UR date?

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby aekea » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:47 am

Decision letter sent here as well. Complete 12/2. Good luck everyone!

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Green Glass Windows » Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:55 am

Elendil wrote:
Green Glass Windows wrote:DLS. No surprises there.


Sorry to hear that, mind sharing UR date?

12/5

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby curiouscat » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:01 am

Sorry to hear about the DLSes today. :(
Kindaklueless, Stanford doesn't really go in order but so far the dings this month have been going roughly by submit date. We seem to be right around the December people right now. You might want to wait until it looks like they're finished with the December dings, just to see if it's still relevant for you to write it. Otherwise, yes, if you've got a good LOCI in mind, go for it. Good luck!

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Elendil » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:24 am

Really sorry to hear, guys.

Dare I say that my late November complete date has been passed over, for now?

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby kindaklueless » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:40 am

curiouscat wrote:Sorry to hear about the DLSes today. :(
Kindaklueless, Stanford doesn't really go in order but so far the dings this month have been going roughly by submit date. We seem to be right around the December people right now. You might want to wait until it looks like they're finished with the December dings, just to see if it's still relevant for you to write it. Otherwise, yes, if you've got a good LOCI in mind, go for it. Good luck!


Thanks. I'll probably send it by the end of the week. Dean Deal's insistence, in her blog, on keeping in touch/courting SLS even when just under review drove me to write it since I didn't want to appear less proactive than the other people probably taking that advice.

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Elric » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:08 am

Checking in. Went complete 1/27 and no movement so far...just want to keep my eyes peeled :shock:

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Re: Stanford c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby curiouscat » Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:49 am

Elendil wrote:Really sorry to hear, guys.

Dare I say that my late November complete date has been passed over, for now?

Possibly, though with your numbers I would have been really surprised if you were in this round of rejections.




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