Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby crooked » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:38 pm

Dinged today. 174/3.31, so it's not like it was a surprise. As my mom put it, "you were probably an auto-reject" (so if you're reading this, hi Mom!).

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby vto35 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:42 pm

crooked wrote:Dinged today. 174/3.31, so it's not like it was a surprise. As my mom put it, "you were probably an auto-reject" (so if you're reading this, hi Mom!).


your mom is awesome

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby crooked » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:48 pm

vto35 wrote:
crooked wrote:Dinged today. 174/3.31, so it's not like it was a surprise. As my mom put it, "you were probably an auto-reject" (so if you're reading this, hi Mom!).


your mom is awesome


Fact.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sgrimes » Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:58 pm

those of you who were accepted via phone, did they ask you for a decision right there or just offer admission without pressure? Just curious. :)

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby arewehavingfunyet » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:03 am

It was a really nice phone call. Absolutely no pressure just Craig congratulating me and asking if I had any questions then asking me questions about things he liked from my application.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:11 am

Oh my god. The walk home from work over the next few days is going to be absolutely dreadful.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sgrimes » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:19 am

arewehavingfunyet wrote:It was a really nice phone call. Absolutely no pressure just Craig congratulating me and asking if I had any questions then asking me questions about things he liked from my application.


That's great! :D congrats again!

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby sandwiches5000 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:12 am

Doorkeeper wrote:
Syme wrote:I also just discovered the Yale quirk of the virtually requisite two academic LORs. I haven't submitted my app yet and currently have a single academic and single professional letter. I read the blog post, but how screwed would I actually be submitting only one academic letter? Am I buying a rejection letter? Does anyone get in with just one?

Numbers in profile if you are interested. I've been out of school for two years, working a prestigious federal job (hence the work letter). Appreciate TLS wisdom!


The question is how strong your second academic recommendation would be for you. If you know your second academic rec would be as strong as your first, then go ahead and get it...but if you think the additional academic rec would be from someone who knows less about you as an applicant, then it can bring down your recommendations in total. Since you've been out of school for two years, I would say it's ok so long as your two recommendations are going to be very strong.


I hope that you are right, Doorkeeper. After reading the admissions blog I do feel pretty skeptical though, even for applicants who have been out of school for a few years. I've also been out for a while and it's been rough trying to procure the other recs. Many faculty members I was close to have moved on or are on leave at the moment. Just gonna send it with one though myself. Wasn't going to send it out at all but my chances are higher of admission if I send it than if I don't at all, right? :roll:

Anyway. This is what it says in the blog post that is dedicated entirely to having less than two recommendations- http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissi ... ation.aspx. "A failure to submit two academic references is serious Bad Idea Jeans... One of those rules is to submit two references from faculty members who have taught you in a class. Let me put that another way: Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation. Or let me break it down even further: Your letters of recommendation will make or break your application."

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:47 am

sandwiches5000 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
Syme wrote:I also just discovered the Yale quirk of the virtually requisite two academic LORs. I haven't submitted my app yet and currently have a single academic and single professional letter. I read the blog post, but how screwed would I actually be submitting only one academic letter? Am I buying a rejection letter? Does anyone get in with just one?

Numbers in profile if you are interested. I've been out of school for two years, working a prestigious federal job (hence the work letter). Appreciate TLS wisdom!


The question is how strong your second academic recommendation would be for you. If you know your second academic rec would be as strong as your first, then go ahead and get it...but if you think the additional academic rec would be from someone who knows less about you as an applicant, then it can bring down your recommendations in total. Since you've been out of school for two years, I would say it's ok so long as your two recommendations are going to be very strong.


I hope that you are right, Doorkeeper. After reading the admissions blog I do feel pretty skeptical though, even for applicants who have been out of school for a few years. I've also been out for a while and it's been rough trying to procure the other recs. Many faculty members I was close to have moved on or are on leave at the moment. Just gonna send it with one though myself. Wasn't going to send it out at all but my chances are higher of admission if I send it than if I don't at all, right? :roll:

Anyway. This is what it says in the blog post that is dedicated entirely to having less than two recommendations- http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissi ... ation.aspx. "A failure to submit two academic references is serious Bad Idea Jeans... One of those rules is to submit two references from faculty members who have taught you in a class. Let me put that another way: Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation. Or let me break it down even further: Your letters of recommendation will make or break your application."


Yea. It's obviously a sub-optimal condition unless you can get two top-form academic recommendations. This issue gets more tricky when you have someone in your situation, who might feel pressured to add a second academic recommendation that might not really be up to par with the other two recommendations you have. Like I said, if you have another person who can write you a stellar academic recommendation, you need to get it. But if your second academic recommendation would be some generic, form recommendation then maybe it is better to just submit your two, IMO.

You could always ask Asha in the comment section of the blog post...

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby MissElphaba » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:34 am

Dinged today. Oh well!

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:44 am

I feel like this is the beginning of an epic poem about a slaughter that's about to unfold

And so the red dots begin to populate LSN...

Students trembled as they approached their mailbox,
Hoping that they were the ones that did outfox,
The other 3,000 applicants from far and wide,
Whose fates were sealed with a small, white hide.

(I'm very bored at work today)

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby lilhmoney » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:49 am

Red dots appear on LSN
Of those who won't move to New Haven.
"203" wont flash on their cell phone's screen.
They won't meet the homeless people of the New Haven Green.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby PopTorts13 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:58 am

I didn't send in a second LOR from a faculty member until mid-last week. I'm f'd in the a. Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby thatkid » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:02 pm

PopTorts13 wrote: Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.


I was hoping for this too, but sadly I only got Yale's.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Doorkeeper » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:03 pm

thatkid wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote: Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.


I was hoping for this too, but sadly I only got Yale's.


That's because you have great stats and you're getting a VCE this month or the next. Remember Columbia sends acceptances out in waves!

/thread cross-pollination

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AmandaPB » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:14 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:I didn't send in a second LOR from a faculty member until mid-last week. I'm f'd in the a. Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.

I was thinking this might happen. Can’t wait to check the mailbox! Too bad I’m in the midwest, I think I have to wait longer.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Elendil » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:17 pm

AmandaPB wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:I didn't send in a second LOR from a faculty member until mid-last week. I'm f'd in the a. Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.

I was thinking this might happen. Can’t wait to check the mailbox! Too bad I’m in the midwest, I think I have to wait longer.


Letters were postmarked the 6th, if that helps you figure out your potential delivery days...

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby PopTorts13 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:18 pm

AmandaPB wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:I didn't send in a second LOR from a faculty member until mid-last week. I'm f'd in the a. Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.

I was thinking this might happen. Can’t wait to check the mailbox! Too bad I’m in the midwest, I think I have to wait longer.


Pound it! Represent the Mid-West.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AmandaPB » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:39 pm

PopTorts13 wrote:
AmandaPB wrote:
PopTorts13 wrote:I didn't send in a second LOR from a faculty member until mid-last week. I'm f'd in the a. Perhaps I can receive 2 letters of rejection today from both Yale and Columbia... Two birds, one stone.

I was thinking this might happen. Can’t wait to check the mailbox! Too bad I’m in the midwest, I think I have to wait longer.


Pound it! Represent the Mid-West.

Represent! Tell each other if we get any rejection letters?

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby instantwonton » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:27 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
sandwiches5000 wrote:
Doorkeeper wrote:
Syme wrote:I also just discovered the Yale quirk of the virtually requisite two academic LORs. I haven't submitted my app yet and currently have a single academic and single professional letter. I read the blog post, but how screwed would I actually be submitting only one academic letter? Am I buying a rejection letter? Does anyone get in with just one?

Numbers in profile if you are interested. I've been out of school for two years, working a prestigious federal job (hence the work letter). Appreciate TLS wisdom!


The question is how strong your second academic recommendation would be for you. If you know your second academic rec would be as strong as your first, then go ahead and get it...but if you think the additional academic rec would be from someone who knows less about you as an applicant, then it can bring down your recommendations in total. Since you've been out of school for two years, I would say it's ok so long as your two recommendations are going to be very strong.


I hope that you are right, Doorkeeper. After reading the admissions blog I do feel pretty skeptical though, even for applicants who have been out of school for a few years. I've also been out for a while and it's been rough trying to procure the other recs. Many faculty members I was close to have moved on or are on leave at the moment. Just gonna send it with one though myself. Wasn't going to send it out at all but my chances are higher of admission if I send it than if I don't at all, right? :roll:

Anyway. This is what it says in the blog post that is dedicated entirely to having less than two recommendations- http://blogs.law.yale.edu/blogs/admissi ... ation.aspx. "A failure to submit two academic references is serious Bad Idea Jeans... One of those rules is to submit two references from faculty members who have taught you in a class. Let me put that another way: Your chances of admission to Yale Law School go down drastically if you submit only one or no academic letters of recommendation. Or let me break it down even further: Your letters of recommendation will make or break your application."


Yea. It's obviously a sub-optimal condition unless you can get two top-form academic recommendations. This issue gets more tricky when you have someone in your situation, who might feel pressured to add a second academic recommendation that might not really be up to par with the other two recommendations you have. Like I said, if you have another person who can write you a stellar academic recommendation, you need to get it. But if your second academic recommendation would be some generic, form recommendation then maybe it is better to just submit your two, IMO.

You could always ask Asha in the comment section of the blog post...


FWIW I submitted an extra academic rec to Yale that I didn't submit to any other school because I wasn't 100% sure of how good it was (the professor loved me when I was in class, but I've been out for a few years and wanted to update her on what I've been up to since, and she wrote the rec without giving me a chance to catch up with her). Yale is also the only school that I got rejected from (although I might still have a ding from Columbia that didn't reach me before I withdrew). Makes me very happy that I didn't end up using that rec for any other schools. I think it's probably better to leave it at 1 academic and 1 work if you think those are both stellar and another academic would be weaker.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby AmandaPB » Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:44 pm

No mail today.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

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No mail today
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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby JosephusMyer » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:30 pm

Do the letters go to your permanent address or current address?

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby Zelda » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm

Pretty sure I have a rejection letter sitting at my house. I am out of town but my parents texted me. I am sort of glad to hear sooner rather than later, but I was secretly hoping for at least a WL.

Ohhhh wellll.

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Re: Yale c/o 2015 Applicants (2011-2012 cycle)

Postby arewehavingfunyet » Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:40 pm

JosephusMyer wrote:Do the letters go to your permanent address or current address?


I believe all Yale mail (acceptance, reject, etc.) goes to your current address.




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