MumofCad wrote:I would say that these are not representative numbers, but any school will have to do this to an extent. UVA has done the same, skimming off a select group of high scorers for early admission and holding the rest to see how things shape up. It'd be rather silly for them to delay their "target" admit decisions to try and let in a bunch of people unlikely to go to their school. A bunch of the "high number" waiters have already gotten into Harvard and more will get into Yale/Stanford in the coming weeks. Wasting resources on trying to pull them away versus trying to make sure you get enough splitters and what not to hold your medians would not be a winning strategy. Call it YP, but I think its probably just how they have to act to be successful at holding their spot.
Also people keep pointing to LSN to prove things about how many people have gotten in or applied this year versus last year - Just a word of caution in reading too much into LSN data at this stage: there is the fact that its not representative, but its all highly skewed at this early stage in the game. A good number of people will have their's set to private until the cycle is over.
They may not be representative, but FWIW I didn't just sit there plugging in numbers until I got data that supported my conclusion. Those were the first parameters I put in and they produced those findings.
Your UVA comparison is telling. I'd put Penn in the same camp as well, but I never thought that Michigan fit the mold. I have great respect for all three schools (and, as it turns out, considerable personal ties to each), so when I began applying to law schools I was disappointed to see them seemingly participating in this practice. I don't think it's universal, just peculiar to that group between the t6 and the lower t14. To wit, you do not tend to find this at Duke or Georgetown.
You make it seem like a practical move, but I think it sounds cynical. Penn, UVA, Michigan are all outstanding schools, and this idea that someone who gets into Harvard wouldn't consider them is pretty sad for any of them to maintain. I mean, UVA is probably the worst offender (routinely waitlisting people who get into Yale), but just take a look at AspiringAcademic's LSN profile. Dude is already in at Harvard but specifically mentions UVA having great faculty. It remains to be seen whether he will get into UVA or whether he would pick it if he did, but it would be a loss for both him and UVA if they decided not to "waste resources" to woo him.
This whole idea of them having to maintain medians and cautiously admit the best and brightest for fear of rejection leaves MVPB fighting to maintain the status quo, instead of asserting themselves as equals to the t6 by pursuing their legitimate claim to the best and the brightest.